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I fear Mr Naff you cannot afford to wait "a few weeks" to announce any salary increases to "keep experienced workers". In fact to be frank I fear it doesnt really matter.
Lets just do a recap here
Mr Andre Dose arrives and states that the airline is in big trouble but he has the solution (a familiar statement). Cut back the unprofitable routes and streamline the operation. First thing the new management does is announce officially 1500 expats to be sacked, then announce officially they would not be sacked immediately but rather over a period of 10-12 months. Now you announce you wish people to stay and promise a payrise as an incentive.
In the meantime Mr Dose has resigned and the airline is left "headless" on "autopilot" facing the same if not worse problems.
Now let me get this right, you expect me to go to my wife and my two kids and convince them that we should re-think my resignation because you now decided to give us some more money?
Dear Sir with all due respect this management has lost all credibility and frankly there is nothing you could possibly do to convince me otherwise.
Someone once wrote here on Pprune that you finally managed to destroy the last remaining great asset in GF, it's workforce.
I honestly wish you the best of luck, not for your sake but for all my colleagues remaining.
Mach
A somewhat "experienced worker"
Lets just do a recap here
Mr Andre Dose arrives and states that the airline is in big trouble but he has the solution (a familiar statement). Cut back the unprofitable routes and streamline the operation. First thing the new management does is announce officially 1500 expats to be sacked, then announce officially they would not be sacked immediately but rather over a period of 10-12 months. Now you announce you wish people to stay and promise a payrise as an incentive.
In the meantime Mr Dose has resigned and the airline is left "headless" on "autopilot" facing the same if not worse problems.
Now let me get this right, you expect me to go to my wife and my two kids and convince them that we should re-think my resignation because you now decided to give us some more money?
Dear Sir with all due respect this management has lost all credibility and frankly there is nothing you could possibly do to convince me otherwise.
Someone once wrote here on Pprune that you finally managed to destroy the last remaining great asset in GF, it's workforce.
I honestly wish you the best of luck, not for your sake but for all my colleagues remaining.
Mach
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Feeling of deja vu.
Didn't this feeling of uncertainty happen already? Why is it here again?
Is this a bad dream?
I must be stuck in the twilight zone (echoes)..twilight zone,...twilight zone,...twilight zone!!!
Someone, please wake me up from this nightmare.
OR
Horse with those funny eye patches....totally oblivious to the surrounding turmoil....all ahead full.....step by step...clop, clop, clop, clop.
Ahhhhh.....ignorance is bliss!!!!
I'm the latter. I was already staying with or without the payrise.
Didn't this feeling of uncertainty happen already? Why is it here again?
Is this a bad dream?
I must be stuck in the twilight zone (echoes)..twilight zone,...twilight zone,...twilight zone!!!
Someone, please wake me up from this nightmare.
OR
Horse with those funny eye patches....totally oblivious to the surrounding turmoil....all ahead full.....step by step...clop, clop, clop, clop.
Ahhhhh.....ignorance is bliss!!!!
I'm the latter. I was already staying with or without the payrise.
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I think somebody from upper managment has to put attendance to the following conference in top priority second to the "new package".
Crew Management Conference
Quote from website:
Crew Management Conference
Quote from website:
Why should you be there? - The focus of the entire conference is on pilots, managing them and enabling them to perform at their best from both the airline's and passenger's point of view. Commercial air transport worldwide is growing so fast that a shortage of quality pilots - especially captains - is becoming a reality for many regions, and Europe cannot consider itself immune.
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haha is that why a/hofo is going to be away? he's put chris r (vpt) in his position. what a chicken sh!t. can't be good numbers if he's going to absent for the much anticipated announcement (second time around).
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New Package
Looks like we have to wait another few days for the big one.
This is the latest from Hello.
In this weeks meeting with the Executive Committee of the board, I am looking forward to approvals on salary adjustments for pilots and cabin crew. At the same time we have also started working on pay adjustments for the rest of the Gulf Air employees.
This is the latest from Hello.
In this weeks meeting with the Executive Committee of the board, I am looking forward to approvals on salary adjustments for pilots and cabin crew. At the same time we have also started working on pay adjustments for the rest of the Gulf Air employees.
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Nice to see he got his leave in the August hot month when others usually cannot get theirs due pilot shortage.
Still he can use the time to look for another job and network with his departed mate...incidently what was the pay off? I suspect three years salery and a gagging clause.
Still he can use the time to look for another job and network with his departed mate...incidently what was the pay off? I suspect three years salery and a gagging clause.
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You obviously are too naive to believe that the published rosters are followed! I suggest that you read the pdf file in your mail, dated 12 Aug, from Hamida before punching the keyboard with trash.
You obviously are too naive to believe that the published rosters are followed! I suggest that you read the pdf file in your mail, dated 12 Aug, from Hamida before punching the keyboard with trash.
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yeah airport3xxx%#%#&#,
that was a rather naive statement....which leads me to conclude that just maybe, you're cr or a/hofo himself....better study up your previous posts!! quick, start deleting!!
that was a rather naive statement....which leads me to conclude that just maybe, you're cr or a/hofo himself....better study up your previous posts!! quick, start deleting!!
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Mach 084,
That was a well written post, and I compliment as well as complement your thoughts.
The money seems to be too little and too late! The much awaited package on Sunday came as a 1 % increment - a refund of the unemployment insurance!!!
Extrapolating from their previous announcements, I would expect an increase in the September, to be effective somewhere in January! If BN wants to send the package to the board for approval next week, then why did he not do it the last week, instead of bragging about it in his newsletter? His intentions are suspect.
GF management will reap the seeds of their procrastination from October when they will have flights cancelled for want of crews. Even now, there are hardly any standbys, and flights get held up for want of a pilot every other day.
The company is running like a headless chicken, which is not just metaphorical - the CEO, VPO/ HOFO and the MFD are 'Acting'; there is no HOGO, HODD, MFS and MOC; the Manager Rostering and Crew Control, CP340, MFOQA and HOFSQA are in their notice period and have no interest left in the company, and some of the remaining managers are on leave for the summer. (While some of the positions will be made obsolete in the new organization system, the plan remains to be seen even after four months of its proposal.)
The woes of the airline are being reflected in the attitude of the staff: one can notice the low morale and the pessimism across the employees, and an increase in the inter-personal skirmishes.
Taking an airplane is a pain – the APU’s seldom work, the Ground Air Conditioning is most inefficient, Engineers are seldom available to fix the airplanes and BAS cannot send GF flights on time!
Try complaining - to whom will you write or phone? Or just crib on PPRUNE?
That was a well written post, and I compliment as well as complement your thoughts.
The money seems to be too little and too late! The much awaited package on Sunday came as a 1 % increment - a refund of the unemployment insurance!!!
Extrapolating from their previous announcements, I would expect an increase in the September, to be effective somewhere in January! If BN wants to send the package to the board for approval next week, then why did he not do it the last week, instead of bragging about it in his newsletter? His intentions are suspect.
GF management will reap the seeds of their procrastination from October when they will have flights cancelled for want of crews. Even now, there are hardly any standbys, and flights get held up for want of a pilot every other day.
The company is running like a headless chicken, which is not just metaphorical - the CEO, VPO/ HOFO and the MFD are 'Acting'; there is no HOGO, HODD, MFS and MOC; the Manager Rostering and Crew Control, CP340, MFOQA and HOFSQA are in their notice period and have no interest left in the company, and some of the remaining managers are on leave for the summer. (While some of the positions will be made obsolete in the new organization system, the plan remains to be seen even after four months of its proposal.)
The woes of the airline are being reflected in the attitude of the staff: one can notice the low morale and the pessimism across the employees, and an increase in the inter-personal skirmishes.
Taking an airplane is a pain – the APU’s seldom work, the Ground Air Conditioning is most inefficient, Engineers are seldom available to fix the airplanes and BAS cannot send GF flights on time!
Try complaining - to whom will you write or phone? Or just crib on PPRUNE?
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Possypellor, Assplate, I get my leave in AUG, I Fly any block I want and Hamida writes for me. I'm not A/HOFO... I AM THE HOFO... keep it on the green boys while i'm off to somewhere cool and please no responds.. Now, back to our topic shall we!!! thanks
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Nuf's GF package presentation
Does anybody have any printed/photographed info that Bjorn was presenting to the pilots when he was showing the new "Package" in the sim building? Perhaps a copy of the PP presentation? PM me if you do.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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It's kinda a shame that it took 100+ pilots resigning before they came up with a decent package...maybe if they had done that in Jan right away instead of threatening 1500 layoffs, then alot of us might have considered staying.
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airpilot_369,
wrong again, you're just being silly.
why do you persist in mentioning names? very immature and irresponsible.
wrong again, you're just being silly.
why do you persist in mentioning names? very immature and irresponsible.
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Autopilot A3xx, If you are really the HOFO you should be ashamed of saying that you are management, because it only shows that you are total dumb a**s as we can see by the company's situation. GF is like the way it is because of incompetent and corrupt management...