EK Resignations
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Thanks Menard, didn't know that!
Crazy, I don't think you did anything wrong, far from it. What I meant was that now that almost everybody can know who Crazycanuck is ( from your post and through the portal/roster/trip info) you'll have to be careful what you write on this website in the future as your anonymity is no longer guaranteed. Unless that doesn't bother you of course.
Kind regards
Crazy, I don't think you did anything wrong, far from it. What I meant was that now that almost everybody can know who Crazycanuck is ( from your post and through the portal/roster/trip info) you'll have to be careful what you write on this website in the future as your anonymity is no longer guaranteed. Unless that doesn't bother you of course.
Kind regards
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Hey D
your call on the identity swap, gives a little "human touch" to things knowing who certain guys are, I use my grade school nickname so no secret as to who I am (comes from te last 4 letters of my name).
In the end couldn't give a rats-ass who knows who I am, I don't post unless I feel strongly about something anyway, and I will stand behind what I do post, unlike some who lurk here waiting for ridiculous things to come up like your trip.
Stick to your guns (as they say), hey you playing hockey this year, take your frustrations out on the ice like the rest of the no "back boned Canadaians" do. Makes for some nasty bruises in the morning, plenty of sour looks from the wife bit it just wouldn't be hockey without it
Dooner
yeah I know forgot to spell check on the last post, but the damn site punted me out the first time for "timing-out" so quickly typed the last one, mind you too many scraps in the corners over the years has probably dented my brains anyway
Dooner
ok I know I am not that stupid, I just typed a reply to my last post and after hitting send it vanished into cyberspace, so just to reiterate I did forget to spell check my previous post as the site keeps "timing-out" and punting me off
too many baoy-checks in the corners over theyears, brain cell diminishing every year
Dooner
your call on the identity swap, gives a little "human touch" to things knowing who certain guys are, I use my grade school nickname so no secret as to who I am (comes from te last 4 letters of my name).
In the end couldn't give a rats-ass who knows who I am, I don't post unless I feel strongly about something anyway, and I will stand behind what I do post, unlike some who lurk here waiting for ridiculous things to come up like your trip.
Stick to your guns (as they say), hey you playing hockey this year, take your frustrations out on the ice like the rest of the no "back boned Canadaians" do. Makes for some nasty bruises in the morning, plenty of sour looks from the wife bit it just wouldn't be hockey without it
Dooner
yeah I know forgot to spell check on the last post, but the damn site punted me out the first time for "timing-out" so quickly typed the last one, mind you too many scraps in the corners over the years has probably dented my brains anyway
Dooner
ok I know I am not that stupid, I just typed a reply to my last post and after hitting send it vanished into cyberspace, so just to reiterate I did forget to spell check my previous post as the site keeps "timing-out" and punting me off
too many baoy-checks in the corners over theyears, brain cell diminishing every year
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Leaving EK
How does one leave EK without paying the bond? Has anyone done it recently and how did you go about it? Do you just leave, takeoff and not tell anyone? or do you tell them you want to leave and you are broke and cannot pay them? What can they do to you?
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Not done it myself... You should have a chat with some of the hosties. Apparently there's a ritual you should follow.
Not entirely sure how it works but I believe it begins with taking out a bank loan and ends with your uniform laid out neatly on a hotel bed.
Not entirely sure how it works but I believe it begins with taking out a bank loan and ends with your uniform laid out neatly on a hotel bed.
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Take out as many loans from as many banks as you can, abscond on your next Melbourne trip and get your mates to send your photo from the Gulf News with your company denying having anything to do with you so you can pin it on your new crew room wall!
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abscond on your next Melbourne trip
My advice mate? go and see the Fleet Managers, tell them your reasons, tell them you are leaving, tell them you are an honest person, tell them you want to repay the bond as that is what you signed up to do, that you are sticking to your side of the bargain. Arrange whatever finance you can in order to repay the bond and then go head held high and not looking over your shoulder for the rest of your career.
But that is what I would do. Moral issues aside, in the first world, a training bond is only enforceable if the skills acquired are transferable. For example, company A pays for your training, you sign a bond for $36K and you start working for them repaying your bond as you go. Company B then starts hiring people with the skills that Company A gave you, but at 30% more salary; then the training bond becomes a valid point. The fact that the Boeing or Airbus rating is on your nice shiny UAE gold ATPL is worth considering as the validity of our licence and its associated ratings, is worthless outside of the UAE. But then that is in the first world...
Good luck with whatever path you choose, maybe you could let us all know the outcome?
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Ask a certain B777 capt who has recently absconded. Aparently everyone knew he was going to do it, but he did it anyway. I think his training bond was paid off, but the banks would like to have a word with him concerning the extremely large amount of money he owes them. He is now blacklisted here for sure.
They are looking for him in his home country where he has gone. He is one guy who will be looking over hs shoulder for the rest of his life.
They are looking for him in his home country where he has gone. He is one guy who will be looking over hs shoulder for the rest of his life.
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Lighten up mate, if you are in Dubai then you know you need to have a sense of humor in the sandpit.
Lets face it do you believe people's profiles and more importantly if Uplink is with the company there are enough resources around in the fraternity that could offer sound advice without having to tramsmit to the world your intentions......
Lets face it do you believe people's profiles and more importantly if Uplink is with the company there are enough resources around in the fraternity that could offer sound advice without having to tramsmit to the world your intentions......
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Got to agree with Uplink and SecureID on this. The Cabin Crew may well have got away with it in the past but their's is hardly a career in the same way ours is. Most of them will never return to flying anyway. We, on the other hand are in this for the long term and may find getting another job harder than we thought if we are carrying some 'history'.
How many times have we all used that saying "Aviation is a small World".
You'd better believe it!
How many times have we all used that saying "Aviation is a small World".
You'd better believe it!
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How many pilots really are leaving?
There is the guy down a few topics who wants to leave and the company are telling me now that it is critical with the crew numbers, but how many did really leave? I asked two managers recently and got two different answers, and not by a little bit!!!!
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I have to agree too. You will regret any decision to 'cut and run' unless you want to quit airline flying, or at least for the bigger companies. I have to agree with SID about the transferable skills, the bond only holds up (in the Western World) when the skills learned are actually transferable. In our case they are not, but I would not want to challenge it. Why not wait the three years? Forget about the command issues, enjoy your time and then quit, three years is really not that long. You then can leave with a clear conscience.
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Ride your motor bike flat out into a parked bus (or just ride with consideration and care on Sheik Z Rd) either way, you will lose your medical. Training bond is forgiven plus you get loss of licence insurance....bargain! Unless of course you're dead.
Further to what Max has written. If it does all go wong, you might be able to use your free 100kg of frieght to get home. This truely could be the low cost option.
Don
Don
I think, and I am sure the numbers, or even the management will back me up here, that the amount of pilots who have left this year is ........ well , wait for it, almost there, and the winner is ............ anyone know
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OK I'll say the numbers the training planners are working with.
For 2005:
107 no shows
37 resignations
144 short in total +/- 10 %. That's why you work your butt off.
Now work from those figures. Some add, Global Noman subtracts. Those are the figures you will here in the training college, not from a source, from the horse himself.
Did Ethihad get 20% payrise ???
For 2005:
107 no shows
37 resignations
144 short in total +/- 10 %. That's why you work your butt off.
Now work from those figures. Some add, Global Noman subtracts. Those are the figures you will here in the training college, not from a source, from the horse himself.
Did Ethihad get 20% payrise ???
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I was cabin crew with EK in 1995, and even then the last week of leaving was a nightmare!!
Lots of running round, more rigmarole than joining, anyway, fellow posters here have told you what to expect.
On the other hand......half my batch did runners cos they hated it so much! Several egyptian male cabin crew racked up huge loans, and did runners, we were a bit astounded at their audacity at the time I must say! We later went on to find out it was more common than realised.
We all kept saying (as several of these guys then went back to Egyptair and are now pilots) that they would never be allowed back into the UAE, their names would be on a banned list at imigration blah balh....but they've since been back and living it up, so thats obvoulsy untrue!
My best friend absconded with her ID (which your supposed to hand in) she said she lost it, and used it for quite some time to come! Serves EK right if you ask me, they brainwash you into thinking you have it made, just to be working for such a "wonderful" airline! Most flight attendants and pilots that I knew who made the angst ridden decision to finally leave, moved on to much bigger and better things eventually. Good luck
Lots of running round, more rigmarole than joining, anyway, fellow posters here have told you what to expect.
On the other hand......half my batch did runners cos they hated it so much! Several egyptian male cabin crew racked up huge loans, and did runners, we were a bit astounded at their audacity at the time I must say! We later went on to find out it was more common than realised.
We all kept saying (as several of these guys then went back to Egyptair and are now pilots) that they would never be allowed back into the UAE, their names would be on a banned list at imigration blah balh....but they've since been back and living it up, so thats obvoulsy untrue!
My best friend absconded with her ID (which your supposed to hand in) she said she lost it, and used it for quite some time to come! Serves EK right if you ask me, they brainwash you into thinking you have it made, just to be working for such a "wonderful" airline! Most flight attendants and pilots that I knew who made the angst ridden decision to finally leave, moved on to much bigger and better things eventually. Good luck
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Much bigger , much better...No its not ...its just different..its all perspective ..go to other forums...people leave companies, positions, countries , wifes, why ?
Its all about human nature , people think that greener pastures are elsewhere , its all what you make of it . For pilots there aren't many unknowns (fa's different story since most are tourists anyway )..packages are more or less within few perks , thousands etc...its all about where do you feel good ..taste is so debatable that is pointless arguing why does someone like this company or that company, EK or SQ or GF whatever...for me and I dont work for EK.... this region is good.. much better than crapy gloomy uk weather or n.american winters , taxes , cuts or mergers that will leave you jobless while shlomos and greenbergs of this world are buying their Hollywood mansions and deffending OJ's ...while on the other hand someone likes rainy days, taxes and so called first world....khalas ...shoot the c$@p now
Its all about human nature , people think that greener pastures are elsewhere , its all what you make of it . For pilots there aren't many unknowns (fa's different story since most are tourists anyway )..packages are more or less within few perks , thousands etc...its all about where do you feel good ..taste is so debatable that is pointless arguing why does someone like this company or that company, EK or SQ or GF whatever...for me and I dont work for EK.... this region is good.. much better than crapy gloomy uk weather or n.american winters , taxes , cuts or mergers that will leave you jobless while shlomos and greenbergs of this world are buying their Hollywood mansions and deffending OJ's ...while on the other hand someone likes rainy days, taxes and so called first world....khalas ...shoot the c$@p now