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From: beyond PNR .. as always
Sama interview
Done interview & sim. asessment in August 06, and asked :
-carrier and family
-will you bring them along
-what you know about LCC
-any thought in changing (better) check-list or procedure
-are you familiar with F.A.R
-have you ever/familiar flying in Middle East (JED,RUH,etc)
-what is Transformer Rectifier ? which's one is most important ?
-No bleed take off switch position
-eng failure drift down, speed ? altitude to level off
-PTU
-eng fire recall items
they told me the training at Royal Maroc, Casablanca
cheers
-carrier and family
-will you bring them along
-what you know about LCC
-any thought in changing (better) check-list or procedure
-are you familiar with F.A.R
-have you ever/familiar flying in Middle East (JED,RUH,etc)
-what is Transformer Rectifier ? which's one is most important ?
-No bleed take off switch position
-eng failure drift down, speed ? altitude to level off
-PTU
-eng fire recall items
they told me the training at Royal Maroc, Casablanca
cheers
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From: PIT STOP
Thanks Mutt for the info and the insight into SAMA affairs.
Much to the chagrin of those shortlisted as cockpit crew there is no news forthcoming on the start up date.
HR says that there is no news and are still awaiting the licence.
Much to the chagrin of those shortlisted as cockpit crew there is no news forthcoming on the start up date.
HR says that there is no news and are still awaiting the licence.
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From: Netherlands
SAMA info
Hiya,
Noticed a question (closed thread) regarding FlySama.
I can confirm that he first aircraft has been ferried to JED on Nov. 26th,
fully painted by QAPS at AMS. (Photo on A.Net)
This aircraft is N33341, new regi HZ-DMO.
The second aircraft was rolled-out today at QAPS and is HZ-BBK.
The SAMA website isn't active yet.
Bye, Chris.
Noticed a question (closed thread) regarding FlySama.
I can confirm that he first aircraft has been ferried to JED on Nov. 26th,
fully painted by QAPS at AMS. (Photo on A.Net)
This aircraft is N33341, new regi HZ-DMO.
The second aircraft was rolled-out today at QAPS and is HZ-BBK.
The SAMA website isn't active yet.
Bye, Chris.
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From: Netherlands
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From: ME
Yikes... I wouldnt like to play poker with these guys...
Airplane parked on the apron 3 weeks prior to GACA announcing who will receive the "3" operating licences .......
Official announcement due Dec 20th.
Chabu, threads lock automatically after a period of time, hence the reason for the other SAMA thread having a padlock..
Mutt
Threads opened & merged. 4HP
Airplane parked on the apron 3 weeks prior to GACA announcing who will receive the "3" operating licences .......
Official announcement due Dec 20th.
Chabu, threads lock automatically after a period of time, hence the reason for the other SAMA thread having a padlock..
Mutt
Threads opened & merged. 4HP
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From: The Palm
Mutt, I think I was right, at least > half right, when I said sometime ago what could be the outcome of the GACA screening, all depending on "the royal power" of the applicants:
23rd July 2006, 15:16
SAMA and Al Tayyar will be the lucky ones. I don't think NAS will get it since they are already operating VIP ad-hoc services and shortly regular ones.
Things may change... though.
SAMA and Al Tayyar will be the lucky ones. I don't think NAS will get it since they are already operating VIP ad-hoc services and shortly regular ones.
Things may change... though.
24th July 2006, 16:23
Mutt, sometimes things aren't so fluid as they are supposed to be. The reasoning may be that NAS has its cake slice and they have got to make it work. Their new internal all biz service may well work with smaller aircraft. Will it fill and so will it pay the flight?
Here is a piece of news indicating SAMA are getting ready for the "ticket".
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZA...ok031300060724
Mutt, sometimes things aren't so fluid as they are supposed to be. The reasoning may be that NAS has its cake slice and they have got to make it work. Their new internal all biz service may well work with smaller aircraft. Will it fill and so will it pay the flight?
Here is a piece of news indicating SAMA are getting ready for the "ticket".
http://www.zawya.com/Story.cfm/sidZA...ok031300060724
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From: ME
And the first licence went to.............................................
National Air Service.....
Next one to be awarded after 45 days. That airline will be based in Dammam....
The next big question is... Can SAMA make money if they operate from Dammam?
Mutt
National Air Service.....
Next one to be awarded after 45 days. That airline will be based in Dammam....
The next big question is... Can SAMA make money if they operate from Dammam?
Mutt
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From: UK
lol I think Sama have pissed off some people with their marketing.
I went to the GACA website today, and in their press release of the 6 shortlisted bidders they have a notice warning bidders "It is strictly prohibitied to make any release or briefing or advertising or any activity that would allude to or give the impression that the bidder has been licenced, as this is considered a clear violation of bidding regulations. any violation will have a negative impact on the bidder's evaluation score and can even lead to the bid not being considered".
^The above was in Arabic, I translated it.
Shortlisted bidders:
1. Sama airlines (al-Washkan company Ltd.)
2. National Air services (NAS) <- (won Riyadh licence?)
3. Tayyar airlines (Tayyar travel group)
4. Nation airlines (Petrogal (?) company)
5. Tower airlines (Kingdom holdings)
6. Ikhwan trading company
I went to the GACA website today, and in their press release of the 6 shortlisted bidders they have a notice warning bidders "It is strictly prohibitied to make any release or briefing or advertising or any activity that would allude to or give the impression that the bidder has been licenced, as this is considered a clear violation of bidding regulations. any violation will have a negative impact on the bidder's evaluation score and can even lead to the bid not being considered".
^The above was in Arabic, I translated it.
Shortlisted bidders:
1. Sama airlines (al-Washkan company Ltd.)
2. National Air services (NAS) <- (won Riyadh licence?)
3. Tayyar airlines (Tayyar travel group)
4. Nation airlines (Petrogal (?) company)
5. Tower airlines (Kingdom holdings)
6. Ikhwan trading company
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From: UK
I understood that they'll be allowed to operate flights from Riyadh or Jeddah, they just have to have their base in Dammam.
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Taher Agueel, newly appointed CEO of NAS told Arab News that the fleet would reach 18 aircraft by 2010. Initially NAS low-cost-carrier (LCC) will cover 22 Saudi cities in the first year of its operation and will accomplish its goal of covering its 37 domestic routes by the end of 2008
I expected the newbies to accept the "Public Service Obligation" routes and then to seek the most profitable of the Saudia domestic routes, I certainly didnt expect them to operate to the whole country!I hope that they are planning to buy 40 seater aircraft! As for the concept of LOW COST, i always understood that for the low concept to work, you had to fill the majority of the seats, this cant work with a A318 on routes with 10,000 passengers PER YEAR!
Good Luck.
Mutt
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From: home
jobs in sama
they have just started calling past applicants this week
the classes will be going to morrocow and the base now is dammam
great cheif pilot-irish pete and an excellent training captain gibbs
and they do need lots of pilots they have about 6-7 from brazil
and they need some local pilots fo/cap
good luck
ps only male flight attendants sorry for the females looking for jobs..but nass will hire females
the classes will be going to morrocow and the base now is dammam
great cheif pilot-irish pete and an excellent training captain gibbs
and they do need lots of pilots they have about 6-7 from brazil
and they need some local pilots fo/cap
good luck
ps only male flight attendants sorry for the females looking for jobs..but nass will hire females
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sama
they have to fly domestic by law for two years then will go international after that
737 300 irs no gps ex air nz planes ..fairly good condition not like their competition in nass. expect 4 sectors per day about 50-70 hours per month as a start then will go lower the first two plane are in kingdom the next two i think in a month or so they have the lic but for crew they will take a few months to get the clearance to operate on the given routs i think
737 300 irs no gps ex air nz planes ..fairly good condition not like their competition in nass. expect 4 sectors per day about 50-70 hours per month as a start then will go lower the first two plane are in kingdom the next two i think in a month or so they have the lic but for crew they will take a few months to get the clearance to operate on the given routs i think
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From: Asia Pacific
SAMA
If you don't mind i'm asking....is this confirmed....means this is on the news or you have a valid resource....????
Because i've been waiting for SAMA since may....and now i am about to sign employment with other company...but if SAMA really got the license....i might have to postpone my new job....or do you have any suggestion.....
Gents,
Anyone already been called by SAMA??
thanks bro.....
R&F
Last edited by R&F; 25th December 2006 at 19:11.
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From: ME
R&F,
It was on the front page of the Arab News yesterday. So its a given......
Are you willing to say what employment package they are offering in realtion to cash, housing, tickets, medical, family, education, insurance?
Mutt
It was on the front page of the Arab News yesterday. So its a given......
Are you willing to say what employment package they are offering in realtion to cash, housing, tickets, medical, family, education, insurance?
Mutt