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Old 26th Dec 2006, 07:30
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mutt and rf

captains make
basic 16500
extras 16000 housing transportation
extras 3700-4500 for sectors /month
anual leave and ticket and health insurance no family package
so your salary will vary from 32000-36000 sr divide over 3.75 for us
expected to fly 60-80 hours part 121
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Old 26th Dec 2006, 10:45
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Hiya,

Let me start by wishing you all a nice Xmas...

Have forgotten to mention in this thread that HZ-BBK was ferried to JED on December 1st, using 'KSA' as ICAO (airline) code.

So the first two aircraft should be in JED now.

Bye, Chris.
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Old 26th Dec 2006, 12:33
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Chabu,

2 aircraft parked in Jeddah, understand #3/4 are in Asia waiting.

Jetman61
With that package, crews should be happy to be DMM based!

The salary is poor, its even less than SVA!

16000 per month housing is good, but with no family status, 1 ticket per year and no monthly days off, i dont see crews attempting to make a career with SAMA.

Come on MANGO... you can do better than that

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Old 26th Dec 2006, 13:44
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Not Only That But More Stuff Already Worked And Quit
As I Said Before Great Chief But Management As Any Place Very Poor Start But They Already Got A Shock To The System And Things Shoul Get Better
With Competition They Will Bump Up The Sa, But Still Dammam Better Than Riyadh
Will Have To See What Nass Does ..to Start With Nass Better Equiped
They Do Intend To Get Ng But Waiting To See How Things Go
It Will Be Good Because Any One Can Beet Sv And As U See Tons Of People On The High Way Will Welcom The Low Cost..but In Aviation It Is The Start Not How Things Go
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Old 26th Dec 2006, 14:53
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Salary Breakdown

Dear gents,

This is last info i got:

Capt, S/FO

Basic : 6000, 4000
Transport : 400, 300
Housing : 2000, 1500
Ticket : 100
Medical : 60
Per Sector: 35, 25
all in USD

Annual leave 41 days
not mention about family, education, etc


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Old 26th Dec 2006, 17:12
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Jetman61 stated that housing/transport was 16000 SAR ($4266)
R&F stated that housing/transport was ($2400) 9000 SAR......

Thats a big difference gentlemen

Westerners should be advised to live in a guarded compound and not a street side apartment, these compounds aren't cheap!

Based upon Jeddah prices, they are about $1000 per month for a 1 bedroom, or $3000 per month for 3 bedroom top range.

Cars, DMM airport is about 60 kms from civilization, so a dependable car will be advisable. A new sportage 4 wheel drive is about $350 per month, petrol is cheaper than water at 0.8C per litre (Starting Jan 1).

Schooling is expensive, $10,000 per year per child for a western school.

Internet, $80 per month.

11 months in Kingdom before vacation is impossible !!! Western temper glands arent that strong!

Now can anyone please explain to me how the low cost concept is going to work over a route structure WITH NO PASSENGERS?

Good Luck....

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Old 28th Dec 2006, 13:03
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SAMA

Mutt you sure have a point!

R&F thanks for ur mail. Consider all options.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 15:12
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SAMA (www.flysama.com) have their 1st ads in the local newspapers, they are GIVING away 10,000 seats with a start date of the 18th March, their routes are DMM-RUH DMM-JED DMM-MED DMM-NEJRAN RUH-JED....

Saudia have also announced that they will start a low cost carrier and a religious carrier, these will operate as stategic business units under the core holding company....

Let the fun begin

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Old 28th Feb 2007, 15:42
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Sama are really bullish. They're building their network really quickly, opening 7 routes in one month. And free tickets to stimulate interest. And now Saudia joining the battle.

Interesting to see how NAS responds. They probably need some more planes. There isn't much room to expand with only 2 planes.


Interesting times indeed.
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Old 28th Feb 2007, 17:31
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Tried booking JED-DMM at the end of Mar and the end of Apr....

In April there is 1 day with free flights, the rest are 289.00 or 309.00 each way for a non refundable ticket.

Is this LOW COST? SVA is 780.00 return for a full service airline!

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Old 1st Mar 2007, 02:33
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Hi mutt,

Sure, I wish they're cheaper, but that's still 200 Riyals less than SV.

Any info you can give on Saudia's loco?
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Old 1st Mar 2007, 03:02
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Fools,
I really expected cheaper fares, I searched for "lowest fare" between now and July, only found 2 days with free tickets all the rest were AT LEAST 289+1.

From what i have seen in this part of the world, Saudis do not like to plan ahead, they want to go to the airport and get a flight now. They are in for a shock when they try this with the Lo Co companies

It will also be interesting to see how they deal with passengers when they have to divert due to summer sand storms in DMM.

As for SVA, no other information

Mutt
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Old 3rd Mar 2007, 18:51
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SAMA

Dear all,

I just been emailed by SAMA recently, asking that if i still interest to join them, since they have new course started on April.
Is any of you has been called by them? What are they telling about the course?

What do you think about it, should i take it?

Any advise??

R&F
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Old 13th Mar 2007, 14:53
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SAMA operated their official first flight today, normal operations will begin on Sunday....

Good Luck.....

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Old 15th Mar 2007, 20:26
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Sama Fleet

Hi there

Can anyone pls tell me the current Sama fleet details?

How many 737s and how old are they? If possible, registrations or MSNs too. I could only find pictures of one a/c on their website.

Cheers
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 12:36
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SAMA Airlines

Dear all,

Anybody already flying for SAMA in Dammam?
Appreciate if any sharing information regarding condition there.

Thanks you all

R&F
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 03:45
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There is only one word to describe SAMA and that is desperate, if they make you an offer squeeze it for all you can.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 16:06
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Hansol,

How desperate is SAMA? And can you re-phrase squeese......
I got an offering letter from them....
The training will be in miami and casablanca...
Funny thing is, i have to apply my own visa for US and Casablanca...

R&F
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 19:10
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Hello guys

Anyone tells me what is the requiremtent for sama for the right seat position.
And does it differ if you are local saudi pilot or expat.

thanks and best regards
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Old 24th Jun 2007, 15:24
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I heard an offer for expats only for a Bahrain basing ie commuting to Dammam, plus an improved package. Could anyone elaborate on that?
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