DEC's at EK
Two great quotes...
" never argue with an idiot.They will drag you down to their level, than beat you with expereince"
or
"never argue with an idiot.The people watching may not be able to tell the difference."
Either way I like them both....
" never argue with an idiot.They will drag you down to their level, than beat you with expereince"
or
"never argue with an idiot.The people watching may not be able to tell the difference."
Either way I like them both....
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....don't forget that around a quarter of all f/o s are local cadets and will require six to ten years before they are able to upgrade, and there will be pilots leaving and retireing. The airline has also expanded faster than anyone has ever predicted, hence the requirement for DECs. How long can this continue? -I don't think anyone has any idea.
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And as with anything at EK, what may be true today, could be changed before tomorrow.
If history is anything to go by, then policy here is only valid while the ink is wet. There are far too many variables for anyone (including management) to be able to set anything in stone.
Throw the dice; take your chances.
If history is anything to go by, then policy here is only valid while the ink is wet. There are far too many variables for anyone (including management) to be able to set anything in stone.
Throw the dice; take your chances.
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Quite typical of the middle east in general, EK in in particular, I suspect.
One wonders, why don't (didn't) the guys before ever notice?
Perhaps the head in sand scenario is operative.
One wonders, why don't (didn't) the guys before ever notice?
Perhaps the head in sand scenario is operative.
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EK 330/340 FOs - wondering why your upgrade is delayed?
Why don't you call/write Alan or Ed and have them tell you why they are sending even more accelerated guys across to the 777 on transition upgrade courses? That's right, the initial batch off 22 fasttrackers was exactly that, the initial batch! So while the gentlemen at the helm are busy explaining how they should communicate, they are elegantly avoiding doing exactly that - COMMUNICATE!
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Zomp what difference does it make, FO or captain? Where did I say I was an FO? I think the entire pilot group should be in together on this subject. We are the ones that need to communicate on this matter. This is the begining of the end at Emirates if this continues.
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As Ek pilot said, write to them or go and have a chat. If 100+ Ek F/Os book appointments with ED I'm sure they will try to do something. How far they can get with it is anyones guess.
I have never been accellerated or had the dubious pleasure of being a DEC but I have always tried not to vent my anger at these guys. They are only making the most of what they are offered because they have the experience to do so (generally). It is their good fortune and good luck to them.
Think up some options that the company can take and go to them with some possitive ideas about how they can make things better for all the guys affected. Nothing may come of it but you will never know unless you go.
I have never been accellerated or had the dubious pleasure of being a DEC but I have always tried not to vent my anger at these guys. They are only making the most of what they are offered because they have the experience to do so (generally). It is their good fortune and good luck to them.
Think up some options that the company can take and go to them with some possitive ideas about how they can make things better for all the guys affected. Nothing may come of it but you will never know unless you go.
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Hi Guys
I was lunching with a mate of mine who had a wee run in with a DEC ......he was a yank. not a bad bloke until he tried to flex a little attitude at the boys....apparently the DEC was told very ASSERTIVELY to go and read his manuals before the company finds out how much he doesnt know
ooooowwwww very bad.
TR
I was lunching with a mate of mine who had a wee run in with a DEC ......he was a yank. not a bad bloke until he tried to flex a little attitude at the boys....apparently the DEC was told very ASSERTIVELY to go and read his manuals before the company finds out how much he doesnt know
ooooowwwww very bad.
TR
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Time to upgrade in EK has always been on average about three years sometimes less. I dont see that changing in the near future even with the 380 delay. Hang in there, it will happen, possibly sooner than you think.
What are you management or a DEC Turtle, who else is the poor guy supposed to talk too , no union nothing , EK seems like a training ground for other airlines......
Dont suffer in silence..............
Dont suffer in silence..............
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Sorry Turtle
you may want to pull that very long head of yours in a weeeee bit and hide under your shell
didnt mean to hit a nerve old boy.
I cant remember wether he was at lunch choosing between a very big pork and apple sandwich or a DEC to eat......... or was he about to be eaten himself...
mmmmmmm
anyway ......blah blah blah ...and he said .....and she said....
TR
you may want to pull that very long head of yours in a weeeee bit and hide under your shell
didnt mean to hit a nerve old boy.
I cant remember wether he was at lunch choosing between a very big pork and apple sandwich or a DEC to eat......... or was he about to be eaten himself...
mmmmmmmanyway ......blah blah blah ...and he said .....and she said....
TR
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EK Pilot said nothing at all. What was said was by ekpilot and before you assume things, it was not me. Just to clairify things here, the names EK PIlot and ekpilot are being used by many of us pilots in Dubai as a way of hiding their identities. At the time now there are about 20 of us using either or both of the names.
It's an excellent way of saying what you think without someone being able to guess who you are by either your writing sense or looking at when someone has days and time off. As I write this I know that at least 5 of the EK Pilots are airborne right now!! So they cannot write anything!
It's an excellent way of saying what you think without someone being able to guess who you are by either your writing sense or looking at when someone has days and time off. As I write this I know that at least 5 of the EK Pilots are airborne right now!! So they cannot write anything!