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What happaned in Poland? How did they hit the pole?
Also, how come they can hire 20 German pilots just like that when there are turkish pilots looking for work?
Also, how come they can hire 20 German pilots just like that when there are turkish pilots looking for work?
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Yes.that is true. CRM is not important.and so CRM instructors too..
yes,true,a F/O was a CRM inst and he cant finish his captain training,why? he doesnt have good crm..hey who manage this company?nobody!!it goes itself....
captain HAS.. SARV..N...you said in one meetingyou dont want pilots in cockpit without university diploma...so what will you do with German pilots?
and KAR..DU...and KAZ.. DEM.....and others you dont want turkish pilots with german passport..but you can fly with Germans,no problem!!i what about pilots from airforce who married foriners?another problem for you,,but company is sinking.no safety.no standart..it is not importand!!
i will apply to airforce..i want to go back,,,civilian come with me,,
yes,true,a F/O was a CRM inst and he cant finish his captain training,why? he doesnt have good crm..hey who manage this company?nobody!!it goes itself....
captain HAS.. SARV..N...you said in one meetingyou dont want pilots in cockpit without university diploma...so what will you do with German pilots?
and KAR..DU...and KAZ.. DEM.....and others you dont want turkish pilots with german passport..but you can fly with Germans,no problem!!i what about pilots from airforce who married foriners?another problem for you,,but company is sinking.no safety.no standart..it is not importand!!
i will apply to airforce..i want to go back,,,civilian come with me,,
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Dear Mr General P.
We are still waiting for answers.
Why did so many pilots resign?
Why did so many civilian Pilots resign?
Why are these idio.. still in charge?
What did you do concerning Capt Muh... Ak... and his cheating.
We are still waiting for answers.
PLs show one time some backbone!
We are still waiting for answers.
Why did so many pilots resign?
Why did so many civilian Pilots resign?
Why are these idio.. still in charge?
What did you do concerning Capt Muh... Ak... and his cheating.
We are still waiting for answers.
PLs show one time some backbone!
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Also would like to know if the intercockpit pilots have university degree. According to sun ex webpage it is one of the minimum requirements for first officers.
Mr. General P. it is a shame that Capt.Der.. Sa... was responsible for the DLR Assesment. That guy can only represent L@hm@cun and Doner Kebap.
A Disgrace.
Mr. General P. it is a shame that Capt.Der.. Sa... was responsible for the DLR Assesment. That guy can only represent L@hm@cun and Doner Kebap.
A Disgrace.
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Hi Folks,
The InterCockpit Pilots haven't university degree. How could it be that they get a job, although they haven't a university degree?
And if you passe the interview, must you go to Hamburg for the DLR assesement? If yes, is the DLR test like the Lufthansa test?
Thanks for the answers guys and good luck.
PICUS
The InterCockpit Pilots haven't university degree. How could it be that they get a job, although they haven't a university degree?
And if you passe the interview, must you go to Hamburg for the DLR assesement? If yes, is the DLR test like the Lufthansa test?
Thanks for the answers guys and good luck.
PICUS
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Most of Sun EX Pilots who joined a few years ago didnt pass the DLR. It is just a matter of form.
Yes all the Intercockpit pilots have done the DLR.
As I mentioned the assessment was done by Mr. Piggy Der.. Sah..
who is one of the chief a..hole. in Sun Express. He is stupi., clumsy fat and mean. Good job Mr. General P.
I was very dissaponted that you didnt choose him as a Future DO.
Normally you have the right touch for managment pilots.
Yes all the Intercockpit pilots have done the DLR.
As I mentioned the assessment was done by Mr. Piggy Der.. Sah..
who is one of the chief a..hole. in Sun Express. He is stupi., clumsy fat and mean. Good job Mr. General P.
I was very dissaponted that you didnt choose him as a Future DO.
Normally you have the right touch for managment pilots.
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OK thank you for your answer, but there is one question not answered.
How could it be that InterCockpit Pilots can work there, although they haven't a university degree? I have just the ABITUR in Germany and want to work for any airline there. If I haven't any chance without a university degree I want to study Aircraft and Flight Engineering (Bachelor) in Osnabrck, Germany.
But if there is a chance to work there like the InterCockpit Pilots, than there MUST be a way to get there in, without the university degree.
Thx
PICUS
P.S.: A good friend from Ankara, was in Hamburg for the DLR test but wasn't succesfull, so he doesn't work there now. So you must pass the DLR test succesfull.
How could it be that InterCockpit Pilots can work there, although they haven't a university degree? I have just the ABITUR in Germany and want to work for any airline there. If I haven't any chance without a university degree I want to study Aircraft and Flight Engineering (Bachelor) in Osnabrck, Germany.
But if there is a chance to work there like the InterCockpit Pilots, than there MUST be a way to get there in, without the university degree.
Thx
PICUS
P.S.: A good friend from Ankara, was in Hamburg for the DLR test but wasn't succesfull, so he doesn't work there now. So you must pass the DLR test succesfull.
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As a 76 a..licke. military mate you go to hamburg, and to 99% they dont pass the DLR, but that doesnt matter because in sunexpress they dont want above average pilots. It is enough if you are a good c.ck su..er and a...lick.er.
So the DLR test is just to show the shareholders we do the same like LH. Bullsh..
By the way I would like to know if the german Intercockpit guys converted to turkish nationalities . To have a turkish passport is another reqirement.
So Mr. P.S next time pls check before putting certain things into the web.
It is just a shame.
Mr.P.S you ruined Sun Express. It is unbelievable
So the DLR test is just to show the shareholders we do the same like LH. Bullsh..
By the way I would like to know if the german Intercockpit guys converted to turkish nationalities . To have a turkish passport is another reqirement.
So Mr. P.S next time pls check before putting certain things into the web.
It is just a shame.
Mr.P.S you ruined Sun Express. It is unbelievable
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Yes I also would like to know how the germans can work for Sun Express.
And its interesting to see if the new german guy is General P`s friend and mate and is just in antalya to enjoy the sun and the raki. Like the other 2 german guys.
Yaasn Sun Express
And its interesting to see if the new german guy is General P`s friend and mate and is just in antalya to enjoy the sun and the raki. Like the other 2 german guys.
Yaasn Sun Express
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Does anybody know how new DO will solve the problems?
Does he want to work with 76 mafia again or he has different idea than PS?
Lets give him help and tell the truth; about safety, military minded decisions which killed most great areas of sxs, crm, lost of many experienced pilots, reputation, not getting enough applications, unhappy crews, crews are not greeting each other, nobody visits company except the flights, nobody speaks up while pilot meetings ...
I'm tired!
Please help me
Good days are coming soon!!!
Does he want to work with 76 mafia again or he has different idea than PS?
Lets give him help and tell the truth; about safety, military minded decisions which killed most great areas of sxs, crm, lost of many experienced pilots, reputation, not getting enough applications, unhappy crews, crews are not greeting each other, nobody visits company except the flights, nobody speaks up while pilot meetings ...
I'm tired!
Please help me
Good days are coming soon!!!
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Good Morning XQ DRiver,
we have to tell the new guy whats going on here. If he is somebody with honour , not like B@KFRIKI OR uLANGE, than,
than he will be shocked. And its so easy.
Just put piggy Der.a and Flightdirector Kam.. in the sim for Sim Check and you know everything about SUn Ex.
The company is doing well financial wise, the shareholders dont care until somebody bad happens.
But its like a cancer. Nobody can see it from outside. Inside the patient dies, in a very short time.
we have to tell the new guy whats going on here. If he is somebody with honour , not like B@KFRIKI OR uLANGE, than,
than he will be shocked. And its so easy.
Just put piggy Der.a and Flightdirector Kam.. in the sim for Sim Check and you know everything about SUn Ex.
The company is doing well financial wise, the shareholders dont care until somebody bad happens.
But its like a cancer. Nobody can see it from outside. Inside the patient dies, in a very short time.
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Dear SunExpress pilots,
My partner and I flew to Bodrum this summer with SunExpress and we were quiet impressed with the quality of service onboard, cockpit announcements and the overall quality.
When I was reading the whole SunExpress story here in this forum and I was kind of surprised to find out that the grass was not so green on the other side.
I can't tell you which company I fly for, but I can only tell you that I fully understand your situation, your frustration and your worries
As long as you are not forced to leave your company, I guess you must stay, get together with all safety conscious pilots and get your " Old SunExpres" back!
If you would take my only single advice as an experienced pilot, spending many years in this aviation business:
Please do not expose or leak any sensitive internal safety issues to the outside communities via this forum or any other kind of tool no matter how true it is and how right you are!
This will not bring any good to any of you; just to the contrary will harm the name of your company on the long run and consequently your aviation future.
Safety is very delicate issue for any given airline and it's very hard to get it back or make it easily forgotten once the name appears on the black list.
I could not imagine whole SunExpress team (including the management and those mentioned pilots) are not safety conscious and they are not doing anything about it. I am also quiet aware of the differences between former military pilots and civilian pilots. I could also imagine someday those " badguys"; the 76 graduates will leave or will be forced to leave the company, but if you keep damaging your GOOD image in the aviation community via this forum you and your colleagues will suffer much longer, even after those "badguys" no longer working in SunExpress.
I keep my fingers crossed for all of you and for all safety conscious pilots sharing the blue sky.
Happy landings
My partner and I flew to Bodrum this summer with SunExpress and we were quiet impressed with the quality of service onboard, cockpit announcements and the overall quality.
When I was reading the whole SunExpress story here in this forum and I was kind of surprised to find out that the grass was not so green on the other side.
I can't tell you which company I fly for, but I can only tell you that I fully understand your situation, your frustration and your worries
As long as you are not forced to leave your company, I guess you must stay, get together with all safety conscious pilots and get your " Old SunExpres" back!
If you would take my only single advice as an experienced pilot, spending many years in this aviation business:
Please do not expose or leak any sensitive internal safety issues to the outside communities via this forum or any other kind of tool no matter how true it is and how right you are!
This will not bring any good to any of you; just to the contrary will harm the name of your company on the long run and consequently your aviation future.
Safety is very delicate issue for any given airline and it's very hard to get it back or make it easily forgotten once the name appears on the black list.
I could not imagine whole SunExpress team (including the management and those mentioned pilots) are not safety conscious and they are not doing anything about it. I am also quiet aware of the differences between former military pilots and civilian pilots. I could also imagine someday those " badguys"; the 76 graduates will leave or will be forced to leave the company, but if you keep damaging your GOOD image in the aviation community via this forum you and your colleagues will suffer much longer, even after those "badguys" no longer working in SunExpress.
I keep my fingers crossed for all of you and for all safety conscious pilots sharing the blue sky.
Happy landings
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tried to contact them via [email protected]
failed every time...
anyone has another e-mailadress to send my details to.
I'm experienced (1000h on type) and have been instructing on safety and emergency B737.
After reading all of this, it is clear that SunExpress needs professional people to enhance their overal performance.
Let's not slag things, improve things.
Brgds,
Despegue
failed every time...
anyone has another e-mailadress to send my details to.
I'm experienced (1000h on type) and have been instructing on safety and emergency B737.
After reading all of this, it is clear that SunExpress needs professional people to enhance their overal performance.
Let's not slag things, improve things.
Brgds,
Despegue
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yes my friends.that is true, cpt. Der.. ...iN was in Hamburg to select pilots. I know it is impossible ..i wont send him to Manav
(greengrocer )to select patatos but it is true!!
(greengrocer )to select patatos but it is true!!