Akbar Strikes Yet Again!!!
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Akbar Strikes Yet Again!!!
One of QRs long serving CSDs has just been sacked. The person in question brought a few extra ciggies into LHR. Agreed this is a no no...however...
Akbar and the Snake sacked him and sent him packing WITHOUT his final settlement!!! This is, as far as I know, against the labour laws of Qatar. But of course, we all know that when it comes to QR there is no such thing!
A300 Man...care to comment?
Akbar and the Snake sacked him and sent him packing WITHOUT his final settlement!!! This is, as far as I know, against the labour laws of Qatar. But of course, we all know that when it comes to QR there is no such thing!
A300 Man...care to comment?
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Another termination....REALLY?
It's no shock to hear that yet another crew member has been terminated - You can get fired for anything in QR........I'm so pleased to be out that brutal regime.
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Strength you and me both!!
Not shocked about yet another termination, but the fact that they have denied the crew member a final settlement/ gratuities...whatever you want to call it!
Now THAT is against the law!!
HR
Not shocked about yet another termination, but the fact that they have denied the crew member a final settlement/ gratuities...whatever you want to call it!
Now THAT is against the law!!
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Heard a rumour that "The Baker" in his guise as head of Civil Aviation went on board a BA flight as it was getting ready to leave and berated all the Qataris who were in First and business for not flying QA
Anybody else heard that one???
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Anybody else heard that one???
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Said BA incident is not yet heard in detail.however, about 3 years ago,AAB got on board BA in DOH when BA was just about to close doors for Departure and was told off by the CSD and the Captain to get off the Air craft without causing Delay.
Station officer (young British girl) was also involved in the "off Loading" of "allahu Akbar" from BA Aircraft and AAB was all out to cancel her Air port pass over that incident.
Station officer (young British girl) was also involved in the "off Loading" of "allahu Akbar" from BA Aircraft and AAB was all out to cancel her Air port pass over that incident.
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i do not believe so this to be true......about aab having a go at qataris in ba's 1st class....
why?
because first he cant even speak arabic......as he studied in india all is life and only 13 years or so in DOH hasnt been enough for him to learn any arabic......
and as far as himself he is an indian iranian who got a qatari passport and now runs a few companies for qatar and one day will get sacked by the emir as he wants to put a sheikh on the board.....
2ndly because these qataris could habe him debowelled for saying anything.....they have the right to choose any airline to fly with that is why there is so many out of DOH.....
People talk to much and many rumours about AAB....
I am not saying i'm with him but i'm neither against him....as he was bought up in a rigid upbringing and background and it makes him who he is......
If he commits any worng dont you worry, KARMA always finds its way back to thee wrongdoer....no SERMON here but just to say that
these rumours are a load of cr........p and those who believe them or tell them obviously dont have anything else to do in their lives.....
PLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEEEEE..............save us....
no further comments....................
why?
because first he cant even speak arabic......as he studied in india all is life and only 13 years or so in DOH hasnt been enough for him to learn any arabic......
and as far as himself he is an indian iranian who got a qatari passport and now runs a few companies for qatar and one day will get sacked by the emir as he wants to put a sheikh on the board.....
2ndly because these qataris could habe him debowelled for saying anything.....they have the right to choose any airline to fly with that is why there is so many out of DOH.....
People talk to much and many rumours about AAB....
I am not saying i'm with him but i'm neither against him....as he was bought up in a rigid upbringing and background and it makes him who he is......
If he commits any worng dont you worry, KARMA always finds its way back to thee wrongdoer....no SERMON here but just to say that
these rumours are a load of cr........p and those who believe them or tell them obviously dont have anything else to do in their lives.....
PLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEEEEE..............save us....
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Now THAT is against the law!!
Always read the small print before signing........
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Just going by what the labour court advised another one of the crew members who faced the same dilemma...( yes a crew member did seek advice and NO, AAB didn't find out surprisingly!!)Of course I do not meant to sound like a legal expert, just going by what I witnessed then and throughout my time in the desert...
Plus of course the "contract" at QR is not worth the paper it is written on...and it does/ did mention in there that upon resignation or termination that all gratuities would be paid etc etc
Yes, as I already stated, the crew member was wrong, but still do not believe he should have been treated as he was...no money...
The point is that whatever QR choose to do they will do it and get away with it anyway, against the law or not!!
...Akbar on a BA flight and being kicked off...know one of the crew who was on that...makes me laugh!
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Just going by what the labour court advised another one of the crew members who faced the same dilemma...( yes a crew member did seek advice and NO, AAB didn't find out surprisingly!!)Of course I do not meant to sound like a legal expert, just going by what I witnessed then and throughout my time in the desert...
Plus of course the "contract" at QR is not worth the paper it is written on...and it does/ did mention in there that upon resignation or termination that all gratuities would be paid etc etc
Yes, as I already stated, the crew member was wrong, but still do not believe he should have been treated as he was...no money...
The point is that whatever QR choose to do they will do it and get away with it anyway, against the law or not!!
...Akbar on a BA flight and being kicked off...know one of the crew who was on that...makes me laugh!
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Whats worth remembering is that QR are short of crew and decent management in general. Yet with no warnings or anything they are prepared to fire decent staff who have helped develop the airline in recent years.
I know its nothing new and probably won't change in the current regime, but the CEO and his servants (that all most are) have to realize that an airline is only as good as the staff that are delivering the product, both in the air and on the ground.
They can pump as much money as they wish into IFE and flat beds but if the boys n girls ain't happy and remain demotivated then thats what shows..... and the paying punters know it!
If you have good staff you have GOT to retain them to build the airline on - not fire them for a slight cock up! QR don't seem to have grasped this concept - even after 10 years
.... how many staff got 10year pins????
I know its nothing new and probably won't change in the current regime, but the CEO and his servants (that all most are) have to realize that an airline is only as good as the staff that are delivering the product, both in the air and on the ground.
They can pump as much money as they wish into IFE and flat beds but if the boys n girls ain't happy and remain demotivated then thats what shows..... and the paying punters know it!
If you have good staff you have GOT to retain them to build the airline on - not fire them for a slight cock up! QR don't seem to have grasped this concept - even after 10 years
.... how many staff got 10year pins????
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Ruby, spot on! But like you say...not likely to change.
The CSD mentioned above is now back in his home country with nothing to show for his efforts! The money sent home monthly is small compensation.
The kind of things that go on with QR are not normal. But then we all know about that.
One CS who met his demise, turned up for a rostered flight unaware that a standby CS had already been called. When he reported and signed on, he was asked to go to Cabin Services where he was duly giving his marching orders!!
A CSD was conducting her briefing when AAB burst in, listened to the briefing then summoned her...he sacked her, but allowed her to go on her 9 day trip...upon her return, no reason was given, but, the then GMFO managed to get AAB to change his mind and she was reinstated!!! She has since escaped the brutal regime.
AAB also came onboard a DXB bound flight screaming at the CS in front of the pax...why? One of the aircraft was AOG and he wanted to know why!!!??
The crew are scared, worried, tired and completely demoralised and demotivated.
When, if ever, will he realise this?
The CSD mentioned above is now back in his home country with nothing to show for his efforts! The money sent home monthly is small compensation.
The kind of things that go on with QR are not normal. But then we all know about that.
One CS who met his demise, turned up for a rostered flight unaware that a standby CS had already been called. When he reported and signed on, he was asked to go to Cabin Services where he was duly giving his marching orders!!
A CSD was conducting her briefing when AAB burst in, listened to the briefing then summoned her...he sacked her, but allowed her to go on her 9 day trip...upon her return, no reason was given, but, the then GMFO managed to get AAB to change his mind and she was reinstated!!! She has since escaped the brutal regime.
AAB also came onboard a DXB bound flight screaming at the CS in front of the pax...why? One of the aircraft was AOG and he wanted to know why!!!??
The crew are scared, worried, tired and completely demoralised and demotivated.
When, if ever, will he realise this?
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At least the GMFO stood up for his staff and took a sensible approach. Was this DF?
Now it seems the majority are in it for self preservation rather than use their common sense in managing staff.
The managers are recruited for their experience and commercial sense (see ad's on website) then as they join they realize this is of little value in QR. Following the leader is the only way to get anything done - be that right or wrong.
The regional guy in Europe stands up for himself and staff, but the rest around the network are just messengers and are completely in competent in their role of 'managing' their region.
It comesback to realizing that staff are your strength and should be managed with care. Even HR fail to do this - miserably.
Now it seems the majority are in it for self preservation rather than use their common sense in managing staff.
The managers are recruited for their experience and commercial sense (see ad's on website) then as they join they realize this is of little value in QR. Following the leader is the only way to get anything done - be that right or wrong.
The regional guy in Europe stands up for himself and staff, but the rest around the network are just messengers and are completely in competent in their role of 'managing' their region.
It comesback to realizing that staff are your strength and should be managed with care. Even HR fail to do this - miserably.
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A300 Man is very informative due to being an expat and a regualr traveller on QR. He does not work for QR, however has "links" I guess to the company.
I personally find his views interesting and of quality.
However, I was surprised to see him posting on the Cabin Crew forum about BA flights from GLA...makes me wonder....hee hee
A300 Man, PM me as I reckon I know one of the mentioned crew btw...
As for putting up with AAB, some crew have little choice...for those not believing this... too bad...but it is true.
As soon as AAB departs the airline will become the once friendly and amazing company it was.
My personal opinion only.
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I personally find his views interesting and of quality.
However, I was surprised to see him posting on the Cabin Crew forum about BA flights from GLA...makes me wonder....hee hee
A300 Man, PM me as I reckon I know one of the mentioned crew btw...
As for putting up with AAB, some crew have little choice...for those not believing this... too bad...but it is true.
As soon as AAB departs the airline will become the once friendly and amazing company it was.
My personal opinion only.
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Thanks for your kind comments HS. My only links with QR were as a frequent traveller in the past.
Mickoa - don't know what "expletive" you were attempting in your post. However, the terminated fellow was someone whom I flew with (as SLF) on several ocassions and I found him to be an extremely humble and harmless chap, as well as exceedingly polite. My opinion. That's all. And I'm entitled to it. Unless you also knew or know the fellow, you are not really in a position to otherwise contradict.
However, I would be the first to concede that he was foolish in doing what he did.
Mickoa - don't know what "expletive" you were attempting in your post. However, the terminated fellow was someone whom I flew with (as SLF) on several ocassions and I found him to be an extremely humble and harmless chap, as well as exceedingly polite. My opinion. That's all. And I'm entitled to it. Unless you also knew or know the fellow, you are not really in a position to otherwise contradict.
However, I would be the first to concede that he was foolish in doing what he did.
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Sorry to defer for a moment...but does anyone know if that funny French boy xxxxx is still at QR or were he is now?
He used to make me laugh so much with his stories of the Al Thanies coming on board.
Please private me....thanks
He used to make me laugh so much with his stories of the Al Thanies coming on board.
Please private me....thanks
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You would think that Qatar Airways would be great to work for, they have placed a full page advert within Flight International for Cabrin Crew based in Doha.
But looking at past forum threads it sounds like a really disorganised company, this "Akbar" seems like a monster, is there some slight exaggeration here.
But looking at past forum threads it sounds like a really disorganised company, this "Akbar" seems like a monster, is there some slight exaggeration here.
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excuse me...
become the amazing airline it was....
lol.....when was it amazing......
the sheikh that was running it had it running into the ground....
it was so bad in debt that it was running just for running's sake....
and crew were earning without work....i know thats nice but as far as business is concerned it is not nice
and also
only doing Haj flights.....
now the company has much more to claim for success although there are many injustices it is groing....its not an amazing environment but it is livable....
stop whining and start working
GOD I HATE PEOPLE WHO TALK S......
and AAB isnt so bad......he has his faults like all of us....i never had a problem with the man
become the amazing airline it was....
lol.....when was it amazing......
the sheikh that was running it had it running into the ground....
it was so bad in debt that it was running just for running's sake....
and crew were earning without work....i know thats nice but as far as business is concerned it is not nice
and also
only doing Haj flights.....
now the company has much more to claim for success although there are many injustices it is groing....its not an amazing environment but it is livable....
stop whining and start working
GOD I HATE PEOPLE WHO TALK S......
and AAB isnt so bad......he has his faults like all of us....i never had a problem with the man
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