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Old 14th Apr 2004, 11:35
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WEll, I am talking about just after the new service was inroduced, alcohol being served...AAB was there, but quiter than he is now...

I recall the HOCC coming onboard pre BKK MNL flight and had a chat with me..."Let's do a BCAL BAR Service" So, after the normal service we set up a couple of bar carts at the aft galley and the pax were coming up, to go to the loo, would stop for a drink and a chat and they, and we, loved it.

The atmosphere on board was considerably more enjoyable than it is now for the crew. There was a sense of achievement around that time, as it was a new phase for the airline. The crew were enjoying themselves. They were also very motivated...it was for me a great time and the company, for me, was knocking spots off other carriers in the region. The cabin crew still do...

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See the little Ghost is back upto his little tricks then. Was a good airline to work for, but the little man made it impossible to stay. Shame it could have been a really good airline.

Anyone like to mention who got the push for the ciggies?

Thanks a million
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Another termination

Apparently Akbar has just fired a senior crew member DB for getting pregnant - the girl is married and she has had to leave Qatar thanks to the evil man AAB!
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"Unless you also knew or know the fellow, you are not really in a position to otherwise contradict."

well, this is a forum after all and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
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I think the reason AAB may have been quieter in the "old" days was because he actually had some decent manager working for him in senior positions. Those that were prepared to make decisions and take resposibility for the benefit of the airline. Unfortunately this was also their downfall as AAB tightened the reins and took away this powers. Frustration led to resignations and now he is surrounded by incompetant managers who are afraid to make decisions without his backing - hence he remains in total charge and all below fear for their own jobs and the welfare of their families....until this changes - nothing else will...
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Qatar Airways has never had managers with back bones.all have been the same.
After all,..........you get "monkies for Peanuts" !!! and "Snakes" for the sake of managing "snake pits" !!!
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Old 29th Apr 2004, 07:02
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...and apparently if the Cabin Crew call sick they are asked to come to the office for a breathalyser!!! Some crew have even been breathalysed at home! How ridiculous!
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i have been in the company almost two years and i never had to go for a breath test after reporting sick or have anyone doing it in my house.....nobody has ever bothered me....

There are rules in this company...they are meant to be followed...if you follow them. keep a low profile...no one will ever prey on you....


and one other thing....this lady who got pregnant....company rules state that you shall not get pregnant in this country while working at qr as you are expected to stick to contract...

and i think that the reasons why she got fired was because this country being muslim and ruled by sharia laws and muslim ways means that if you are UNMARRIED you cannot get pregant and if you do you have to leave the country or marry the guy but even so you have to leave because you weren't married at the time you got pregnant.

the rules are not from qr or aab or the government but from the quran......

so....she had to leave....she broke countries religious laws...


When you come here you should be aware of the laws and have to respect them even if you dont like them, if you feel you cant do so please dont come or leave before having problems.....

Im not cold hearted or anything but the facts have to be stated.....from what i heard she was not married....


Regarding the company....

yes there are many injustices but AAB isnt all to blame.....if he fire the people who are in the tower for imcompetencies then he will have noone, so if he is to do so, he has to fire and hire....not fire without cover up....

and another thing qr is growing at a rate i have never seen....

now it is paying better, layovers are great...yes the people in the office (not all) are s....t but then the gulf is just like that...unfair...if you dont like it go...thats what i'll do when my limits are up....

i was earning maximum 5500 to 5900qr as cc f2 and just got 7200 this month....and half month was from old system so imagine if i counted everything in new system....it works out near 8000....for a f2 its quite good.....i know not as good as ek but then we cant compare....

qr has its problems and inchallah they will come around to be solved with time...

guys give qr time to be a child, teenager and adult...and grow old inchallah a prfitable renewed world renowned airline....as far as service goes its great......just the food could be more varied as i am particularly sick of Byriani with everything even with fish.

As far as office, Mr AAB was bought up in a very harsh environment full of discipline and he is disciplined himself, he has the Emir on his back to put pressure on the girls because he doesnt want qataris to marry or go with foreigner as he wants to keep the wealth in....

He also wants to have the best although he may have his 'defects' like some machines....noone is perfect, like i said in the past i never had a problem with him.....he is friendly in his own time.....

i never sucked up to him or anything although there are those who try favors with him but trust me he hates that....

i admire him in a way for his vision of what he wants to do with qr ......as far as ccrew he will come around but he seems just a little slow...what he needs is a better advisor ....he is normally a just person .....he listens ....but the problem he wants to do so many things at once...he is up for 18 hours a day
running here and there because his airline has to have profits soon, and if i was him i'd hate to receive pax complains, especially about my staff.......

My moto is....DO YOUR JOB AND YOU'LL BE FINE, BE REASONABLE AND THINGS WILL TURN OUT RIGHT, DO NOT FIGHT WITH PAX....
i have learnt its not worth it, reason with them try to calm them down, but some crew they just go off their brains and really cant handle it......

this job demands a lot...u gotta put ur role and ur knowledge in, your experience, ur maturity.....

Dont whinge so much.....most of us arent staying for long so why dont we just enjoy while we can....


My father told meonce...my child be prepared for the leaping frogs that life has to offer, meaning the prickles on the rose, the harshes of life and take it like a ADULT......
it brings maturity and awe to life, interest for living....

God Help me, sometimes i am happy with qr sometimes sad or angry for some things....but theres reasons behind reasons, each case behind each case.....


Crew or New Crew or new people who are interested in qr and coming here,

DONT BE AFRAID OR LISTEN TO ALL THESE COMMENTS AS FOR SURE, FOLLOW YOUR INSTINCTS, HAVE NOTHING TO LOOSE, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE....IF YOU CAN....IF NOT ENJOY WHAT QR HAS TO OFFER...EVEN IF LITTLE....

i try to do so....even that i know there is many wrong things but all companies have their own problems....

Enough for now...thanks
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Old 30th Apr 2004, 06:22
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There is nothing to loose? you got to be kidding!!!!

Have you forgotton,once employed by QR, it better be taken as a jail term?

Have you also not heard of the porching agreements QR has with other air lines?and can anyone "just leave" and find jobs with other Airlines as we please?

I agree with you that one should follow his/her instincts, but be also informed,there is no FUTURE with this "STUPID" Air line headed by the "STUPID" CEO.

Simply because "THEY" just ruin you and your future and you will have no way out !!

Take it from me.I ve been there !!!
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FCO??? Where you drunk when you wrote this shhhhhhhhh.t???

After 2 years with QR still F2?? You must be kidding me. Do you not know what to do then on board??

Greetos
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Old 3rd May 2004, 10:22
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Well said BKK Layover and Dupont..what is this guy/ girl on??

Must say DXB is the place to be. Enjoying a nice break for the before the ATM here tomorrow...who knows might even see the little "person" himself. Now THAT would be fun!

Cheers

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Old 3rd May 2004, 11:32
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Help for Akbar ... the six secrets of successful management.

Help is at hand for Akbar. All he needs to do is read "I'll show them who's boss, the six secrets of successful management" by Gerry Robinson, former chairman of Granada.

And his six secrets are:

1. Leadership. All successful companies have one leader who understands how to lead and knows what he's doing. (Akbar, I think you know how to lead, but I'm not convinced you always know what you're doing. 6 out of 10).

2. You need to have a vision and learn how to formulate a strategy for the future, communicate it with a passion and ensure it gets carried out. (Akbar has a vision, but communication is a word he hasn't learned and he's short on passion. 4 out of 10).

3. Getting commitment from your workforce. People are the lifeblood of your business and you're lost if yours aren't all singing from the same hymn sheet. (At QR I don't even think they've seen the hymn sheet and AAB certainly doesn't understand the value of people. 2 out of 10).

4. Leaders need to occasionally make tough decisions. Good leaders do it cleanly and kindly. (Akbar doesn't understand "kindly" and has doubts about the meaning of "cleanly". 1 out of 10).

5. Micromanagement is a common mistake, but is a disastrous path to go down. Good managers need to focus on the big picture. (Akbar is all about micromanagement. 0 out of 10).

6. Communication. Getting your passion and vision for the company across to colleagues in a meaningful and inspiring way. (Sorry, Akbar, communication is not your strong point. 1 out of 10).

Your average, Akbar, is 2.3 out of ten. Not good enough. I suggest you buy the book urgently, read it thoroughly, absorb its contents and then apply what you have learned.

If you do so there may be some hope for QR being a decent place to work.
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Good one!
Surprisinlgy ORYX the inflight mag also has regular "Management and Business" pages and it struck me that some of the stuff they were priniting was never actually practised at QR!
Considering the amount of time the senior management spend on flights clocking up duty travel per diem going to interview check in agents - you would have thought they had time to read it!
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Old 3rd May 2004, 17:03
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blocking agreement??

I'm an EK flyer and recently got chatting to Qatar Airways hosties downroute and both were very keen in coming to Dubai cause conditions in Doha were terrible and both of these girls didn't feel very secure in there jobs cause lots of crew get fired for very little but they said that EK wouldn't take them for at least a year because of some recruitment agreement with Mr.Al Backer.Is this true because it seems a bit strange?????????Ciao.
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Old 5th May 2004, 13:23
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Well at the ATM in DXB I was at the QR stand and they gave me a pin!!!! Wow!! More than what I received when I worked there!!! Ha ha!
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People have been talking about AAB on this site for years and the thing is the same remarks keep coming up time and time again. We can conclude that he hasn't changed and probably will not change in the future. Is he good or crap....

1. A CEO should be responsible for the strategic development of the airline dealing with direction and planning.

AAB is usually checking up on cabin crew who call in sick, checking uniforms at 3.30 in the morning and generally frightening and intimidating crew. Difficult to make important decisions if your up most nights and dealing with trivial matters!

2. A CEO should delegate responsibility to his managers who have been put in place because they can do the job.

Qr managers are not allowed any freedom there is no delegation.If the managers are crap then they shouldnt be there, get new ones. There are some good managers but they are not allowed to demonstrate it for fear of disapproval thus being fired {like so many before them}.

3. A CEO must work hard and diligently

No arguement here he does that.

4. A CEO must realise his resources

Qr's best resource is its crew, failure to recognize this is stupidity as other airlines recognise {AA for example}. The treatment is absolutely dickensian, if he was CEO of an airline with a good union he wouldnt last a week. If Qr was EU based it would have so many law suits against it a department would need to be set up to deal with it. Sacking people for rediculous menial things sends out a bad message. This man is not aware of the market at present. Qr has a serious shortage of pilots and will remain so until conditions improve, cabin crew you can get from Far east but then experience comes into account, there is often none, regularly first job. Poor slow service is regular now due to the experienced C.Crew leaving or being terminated, smiles are rare on board as its hard to smile if you are treated like s***.

Rules and procedures thats Qr. a leftover management style from the turn of the century. Procedures which are combersome and dont often work, clear shortcuts but the staff are afraid to take them for FEAR of getting into trouble. Bureaucracy abound and regularly inefficient office staff from choice nations.


What about the arguement for the CEO, well he is hardworking and brought the airline to where it is today. WRONG The Emirs money and the grass roots staff brought the airline to where it is today, the sweat and work of fearing staff members. Any CEO can look impressive if billions are being pumped in. So how can we evaluate him. Simple, the company's profitability. Alas its not and the date keeps going back when it will. If Qr was a company run like most on profitability it would have sunk a long time ago with only about four or five aircraft. Some argue that his tight reign of terror is necessary to keep the staff under control, what balderdash, how does BA do it through terror{I dont think so}. If our staff do require such disciplining then we are hiring the wrong kind of staff we then need to look at hiring procedures and retention. High turnover as a result of the CEO, costs millions in new training over a period of time {does anybody look at this }.

The time for AAB to go has come the airline is too big to run in such a prehistoric and regimented way, bureaucracy becomes harder as the airline increases in size and monitoring of menial things uses alot of rsources which could be more productively employed elsewhere. Staff are annoyed and sabotage the airline in ways that they can not be identified, this comes from pure fustration. The culture is all wrong at QR one pilot told me its the worst airline he ever worked for {after eight or so airlines}.

The CEO should be involved with small new projects where his skills of hard work and determination are useful, not large organizations for he is clearly out of his depth when he is compared to successful CEO's.

Qr staff you have been trampled upon for too long some day the Emir will come to realise it to, hopefully the sooner the better for all concerned.
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Old 19th May 2004, 14:42
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Sorry to hear this, but this is so typical of the way the Snake works. This " I will appeal on your behalf" kind of thing and asking you to plead with AAB is a pile of ****!! He tried that with me and to the day has point blankly denied any involvement in my demise. Why the CS instructor DF still remains friends with him I will never know!! DF is a hell of a nice guy.What he doesn't realise is that when AAB has used him and his contacts in the Sri Lankan Govt. enough to get what he needs the Snake will be sent packing also. He will never be able to rejoin his old company I am sure...

AAB's attitude..."you will never work in the region again" Funny that, I have risen in the ranks and have just been at the Arab TRavel Market in Dubai...What a plonker he is.

...but like you say your head was high and good for you. Personally, I blurted out the words "I'm free!!!" much to the shock of the welfare dept!!( who's gossip had instigated my dismissal) Well I had my ticket and my exit permit and headed straight up the Golf Course for a few celebratory libations!!

Keep that head up and good luck!!

Cheers

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if everyone thought like you about Qatar airways It would have not got to where it is...i dont dislike the airline, there is a few improvements to be made but it has room to grom and improve ....but with people like you making the moral more low....how the hell do you want people to think...


listen KARMA comes around sooner or later...those that will pay will pay....and stop blaspheming and putting us and others down with your petty little comments...

if you r in this company leave if you dont like and if not then stop talking about what you dont know....

do us a favour and post something nice for once...

NOT EVERYONE IS FEELING SO BAD IN QR....LET THOSE WHO DONT LIKE IT LEAVE....
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Pretty good for an F2

Hey FCO, where do i begin. Lets see if I could be nice to you. With your stupid comment like that, I don't see how I can. FIRST of all, to start off on your comment "if everyone thought like you about Qatar airways It would have not got to where it is". Oh yeah? QA would not have got to where it is without people like us! We are the ones who are hard working and take the airline to a different level. At whose cost do they strive to be number 1? Ask yourself that question! If you are happy there, Whoopee, good for you, then stay on! This forum was designed for people to share their thoughts and other rumours if any. This was all I was doing. If you don't like what I have to say, then you have a choice too. You can continue to be an F2 and stop coming into this forum and reading the thoughts of other people. You know what FCO? you speak this way only coz you haven't been trampled by this company as yet. I bet you would be singing to a different tune if it happened to you. Then we'll see what you have to say. I have a feeliing you would change your login name and then express your sadness too. You haven't experienced the full blow yet, however with a name like FCOlover, I'm guessing you have. Room to grow? My a**! At whose cost andd happiness? OURS!! We gavve up a lot of **** to leave our country for this job. We sacrificed a lot! Now what do we have in return? Nothing! How can you say that I am making the lower? IT IS QA that is making our moral lower! Which world have you been living in? If it happened to you, you would understand. AND FOR YOUR INFO, my incident had made quite a few people rethink their future in this company on their own accord. I had nothing to do with that. That is free will. They asked me what happened as they were all concerned (unlike yourself) and they decided for themselves. If I could get kicked out for a silly reason, then you can just imagine what your position is.. Hmm F2 for 2 yrs? You know, I believe you are a typical snitch to the snake by the looks of it. I let people think the way they want to. I only air my thoughts and people are free to take from it whatever they choose and disregard anything that may not apply to them. If you like it there, good for you and all the best. Let the others who don't agree with the system continue to speak their mind without any silly comments from you. Yes Karma has a way of biting people in the ass, I am waiting for that day. the next thing you will be tell me is that the sky is blue. Duuuh! Who are you to tell me to leave the company if I don't like it! Believe me, if I were still in the company, I'd now have a whole new reason to leave.. Can you take a wild guess what that reason would be? You want me to post something nice for once eh? You know, if you didn't like half the **** we post here, then why do you keep coming back knowing what will be posted here? I'll tell you why! You still secretly want to hear the gossip! THats WHY!
To close, you said "NOT EVERYONE IS FEELING SO BAD IN QR....LET THOSE WHO DONT LIKE IT LEAVE", well said. Bravo! Who said I didn't agree with that? If you like it, you would stay regardless of what I or anyone else said right? So if your words are true, why are you affected by what I had to say. Swallow your own words buddy! If you like it, then stay on. What i say should not have any effect on your judgement so stop whining and enjoy the company if what you say is true, coz in your own words, people who like it would stay on regardless, so what's the problem here, nothing I say should change your mind.........OR HAS IT!

Later.
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