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Old 4th Jan 2004, 05:24
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Go ahead, post facts as you see them, but have you ever heard of "referring to source"? Mentioning "a reliable source" isn't good enough when it comes to stating the facts.

It's not a slanging match, but I would say this is more a slanging match behalf of you against QR. How come I never experienced any of this at QR?!

No offense against your friends, but they have themselves to blame for signing any possible bond. Signing a bond, despite what kind of company or anything else it might be, means you have to face the consequences.
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Old 4th Jan 2004, 21:23
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Well, put it this way, this person still works for QR and is about to leave as he has had enough! What do you mean "mentioning a reliable source isn't good enough." You are in the minority of people who states that nothing like this goes on at QR. Maybe you were one of the Snake's "special" friends.

Belive what you wish. I was there a long, long time and I witnessed some dreadful things. Fortunately I was "ok" but eventually one of those dreadful things happened and I left.

Oh and I do not need your permission to post on this forum thank you very much!
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 05:10
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If you want to state the facts and convince other people they are true, you need to refer your statements to certain sources such as a person's name, an article etc. Something you learn in school, at least that's where I learnt it.

Accusing me of being a special friend of the Snake?

I wasn't giving you permission to post on this forum, but some of your posts are very entertaining to read. Especially since you all stick together and cannot believe that there are actually people who enjoy QR!
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 07:03
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Ayomide: you completely misunderstand. I had a great time at QR! If you have read my previous posts on QR you will find that out!

I never agreed with their management except in the days of Mark Turner who was a good Cabin Crew Manager who did his best...a bit before your time. Unfortunately his hands were tied, but at least he supported the crew, unlike BG and The Snake.

I have no intention of naming any sources, but suffice to say that I have many friends still at QR and I get updates, good and bad on a regular basis. And I am a source myself. Feel free to PM me, but I don't think anybody on here can convince you that these things go on. Your mind is already made up.

Look in the dictionary under confidentiality...that is what I am doing, keeping my friend's names out of this. Some of them, according to them, cannot post on here, but wish to have their views aired...so here they are.

A300 Man can vouch for anything I say that happened to me and indeed most of the things on this forum. Fact not fiction.

...and don't shoot the messenger by the way...

Of course I believe these things go on for two reasons: I have witnessed them and been victim myself! Plus, I tend to trust my friends...don't you?
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Don't shoot the messenger, isn't that what you did when you told me you don't need my permission to post on this forum?

A300Man, I don't know this man and would not define him as reliable source as to confirm any information given on this forum.

I don't expect you to give out any of your friend's names due to confidentiality, but I have no intention of taking the stand either since I find it very hard to believe all info that is being given on the internet, unless there is a reliable source refered to.

My mind is already made up because I never experienced any of this during my time with QR! I am also airing my views of QR and am truly sorry if this happened to you and your friends.

I tend to trust my friends and am not claiming your friends are lying. It is odd if this happen to certain people only since Bang claims my friend is one of 100 who is happy with QR and the rest are unhappy and miserable. However, I am in touch with many of my friends currently serving with QR and they cannot confirm anything of this is happening to them.

I never had any problems with BG, though I never tried to interfear with management unless necessary.

Apologies if any offense is taken.
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 18:27
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Ah, there lies the problem: " I never tried to interfere with Management unless necessary." So, you admit to interfering with the Management? You also seem to be contradicting yourself a little.

I think Bang was just genaralising and didn't mean to rile you. What he is saying is that the majority of crew he speaks to are unhappy...same for me...some cannot leave right now for various reasons.

Quite frankly, I am not interested in what you believe. Once again I have been part of it, was there for a long time and have had my eyes opened. Things I have never seen in other airlines.

I don't know if you have previous flying experience and if you are totally au fait with FTLs etc, but there were/ are a lot of irregularities and "DCAM dispensations" regarding some of the flights when delays are incurred and crew complement.

It's quite simple, just ask Bernard on this one!
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 19:44
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Interfering was wrong word by me. I was in contact with management only when I resigned from the airline.

Not interested in what you believe, not very open minded are we? I thought that was essential when it came to be cabin crew that you had to care what other people thought.

What would those various reasons be? Surely that can't have anything to do with confidentiality as long as you leave names out.
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 20:23
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Well, sorry to disappoint you, but I am writing on a forum, not working. Also, I no longer work as Cabin Crew, although still in the industry, but in a different capacity.

Reasons for people staying (and leaving) have been stated throughout any previous threads on QR. However, some have loans in Doha, some are earning better money than what they would in their country of origin. These are only two reasons.

Now, don't tell me you don't believe this too!!!?

In fact one of my friends who was a CS at QR is still in the country trying to pay off his loan. But of course this can't be true as there are no reliable sources!

Oh, and I am extremely open minded. To work in the Gulf you have to be. I worked there for 14 years and loved every moment!

I still visit regularly...

So, how long have you been in the industry then Ayomide? Are you still flying now? I ask this because some of your comments smack of inexperience, but if I am wrong then I apologise. And why did you leave QR again? If you loved it so much?
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Old 5th Jan 2004, 23:16
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Oh, not another one on a "guess the identity"...It's funny, but I have had a PM recently from someone which I couldn't understand as they were talking about some things obviously not related to me. I left a bit before KW, but sorry, the initials are not even close, nor the nationality!

Best in the class? Bring the Snake an apple each day? Excellent. I am pleased for you. Means nothing...it's what you do on board and if you can still maintain the high standards that count.

Well I hope they let you rejoin...so you have it confirmed that you can join any other Gulf carrier do you?

Anyway, family are much more important than any job.
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 00:28
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Hey, CAT FIGHT ! ! !

ROWWWWWRRRRRRR...! ! !

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Old 6th Jan 2004, 06:29
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And I have had PMs claiming otherwise.

Since you have been flying in the Middle East for 14 years and probably with other carriers elsewhere, you probably know that you learn the most important bits at classes! I was also promoted quickly, so I couldn't have been that inexperienced, could I?

Bring the Snake an apple each day? No, just did my best and apparently they liked that!

Yes, I have been confirmed I can rejoin any day. Also waiting to hear from a few other carriers in the Gulf.
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 07:09
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Ayomide,

What type of aircraft do you wish to fly again at QR? Any choice? Which would you pick? Thank you.
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 18:13
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Ayomide, and I am sure they are from reliable sources eh?
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 18:15
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Yes, very reliable resources.
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 18:35
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Ha Ha...names? Ha Ha
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 18:53
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Sorry, can't give them out due to "confidentiality".

They say when you are most frightened, you try to laugh it away and convince others it's not true.
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 20:13
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Well, I'll give you a clue: North West of Qatar, South East of UK. I am sure your "confidential reliable sources" will be able to help you. Oh and first initial A!

If you work that one out, I will be completely convinced that you were indeed top of the class!!!

Good luck in rejoining QR or indeed "any other Gulf Airline." If you get fed up over there, PM me, I might know someone that can assist you!
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 20:34
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Well, I still believe my resorces and you do sound very much alike KW. And why would you give out your initial on the internet?

As for luck, I don't need it, but thank you anyway for your consideration!
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 20:58
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..oh and I thought you were smart! Not MY initial...think about it!

Luck? We all need luck in our lives at some point...

Something that puzzles me though, if you say you joined and left when you did, after both myself and KW's time, how would you know what people from that time sound like? All sounds a bit dubious to me...

Anyway, thanks for the fun...oh and send my regards to your reliable sources...

Once again good luck!
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Old 6th Jan 2004, 23:14
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As I said, I have my resources in Qatar.

And the initital would be the initial of?
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