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Old 18th Dec 2003, 13:12
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Hey Krotch,

That kinda answers my question. Thanks man
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Old 18th Dec 2003, 17:20
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It is confirmed that only one EX-QR csd (HT) is working at Etihad and not any other yet.plus another EX QR CSD (GD) has got the job and starting early next year in a different role.

Crew who are already employed with QR has not been given the job.there obviously is a QR-Etihad ban.

Regarding 53 Resignations,..thats not true,it is however true many crew including Senior grades left the company,but not as many as 53.
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Old 22nd Dec 2003, 03:45
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I don't know about the exodus at QR "beginning"?

It's been going on on a permanent basis for the past three years at least. And until Snackbar gets overthrown it's likely to continue. The good news is that everyone who has left is much happier than they were in miserable, boring Doha. There is life after QR and a much more enjoyable one at that.
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Old 22nd Dec 2003, 11:15
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Now, Now ladies..

On a lighter note, Over the past couple of years I 'am enjoying my time at QR.. what more could one ask for.. The money is always in the bank on time, the Aircraft Maint. is good. The destinations and layovers (fleet dependant) are great. I live in a very tropical climate were the sun shines in blue skies at least 360 days a year.. and it has to be said, that this is certainly the safest place, in terms of crime that I have ever lived in my life.

I have worked for much worse companies, I have worked harder for much less money, I have lived in much more dangerous environments... so I really can't see the problem here,, and if so many people are so unhappy,,, why do they stay??? .. But of course many leave.. this place is not for everyone.. But certainly not as bad as some would make it out to be.

It's all what you want to make of it...

Keeping in mind.. It’s their country, and their airline, their airplanes, their uniforms and their money in my bank account.. so I will do things their way or I’ll get out.... stay out of the politics and everything is quite good..


Sometimes the journey can be just as good as the destination
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Old 24th Dec 2003, 03:13
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bang, very interesting information given on the post.

how sure are you that "GD" is joining Etihad and how do you get these information? if you cannot write on the forum,why not PM me.I would realy like to know this.

By the way who is CSD "HT"? maybe I just dont get it,but been there so for many years and cannot simply get the name right.
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Old 26th Dec 2003, 17:19
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I am certain about what is written there. Check your PM.
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Old 27th Dec 2003, 16:25
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GD would have been an excellent asset to Etihad, or any other carrier, whether in the cabin or the classroom. Pity previous employer (QR) were too stupid to realise it.

Anyway, their loss is someone elses gain, and all that............
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Old 27th Dec 2003, 19:33
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He's happy now, which is what he deserves...
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Old 27th Dec 2003, 19:53
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I don't understand what everybody is complaining about.

QR is an equal employer and treat their crew fair, but there are worse employers, even in modern countries with unions. People who seem to be complaining most about working conditions and how they treat others, are those from countries that have unions and compare it how it works in their countries. That's wrong.

Many of us who worked and work with QR are dependant of our salariesy and have never seen this amount of money before. I hadn't seen so much money before and working for them was luxury. The working conditions were good and I never felt once used. They paid me money and gave me accommodation. What did I have to do? Go to work and do what I was told. We all have obligations when it comes to work, no matter where you work.

But if you come from a country where you are used to certain regulations and have a union behind you that pretects you, maybe QR is not the place for you.
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Old 30th Dec 2003, 02:39
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Ayomide,

I am glad that you enjoy(ed) your job at QR...I did too, to an extent, but I was not allowed to perform to my capabilities due to the management of BG and his pet SnaKe. (neither were any of the CSDs/CS)

I went to work and did my job, enjoyed the country as much as possible...played golf, enjoyed the sea and enjoyed the nightlife to an extent as well. I had 3 circles of friends: one QR and two outside where I really enjoyed my days off.

From your posts I gather you are relatively young and have not had previous Gulf experience and probably not much work experience. ( I apologise if I am wrong)

I will never regret my time at QR, but I will always state facts about what went on, what goes on and what will continue to go on, as long as AAB is at the helm and Master Bates and Seaman Stanes are involved with the Cabin Crew!!

I wish you well as I do anyone previously or presently involved with the airline....the exodus will continue...and continue...and continue...

All the best.

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Old 30th Dec 2003, 09:23
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I enjoyed my work with QR all the time. Being far away from home was worth the money. QR was my first experience in the Gulf and that was good.

RJA is looking for female cabin crew, KU also I think. I should give them a try now!

By the way, I wrote you a PM.
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Old 31st Dec 2003, 13:37
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Latest is that,QR crew GIRLS cannot entertain even the female friends after dark.male members of the team are getting security down at the crew buildings.

SNAKE is keeping a very low profile these days,some say he sees whats posted here on Pprune and now trying to be the good guy.(which he never means) BG keeps on showing the SNAKE Pprune comments.

.....Give it afew weeks,snake will be back the usual nasty way!!

HR, answer to your 2nd page Question:-

GD works for a better Airline now.and will be working in a higher position for another better company by next year.

He certainly deserves the best.new Airline recognized his capabilities and are making good use of him,whilst QR got involved in Politics and lost him and a few good others.
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Old 31st Dec 2003, 15:51
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Very accurate comments, Bang.
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Old 31st Dec 2003, 17:47
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Long gone are the days when the Snake's briefings were monitored by the the then HOCC! His reputation in his previous airline was just as bad! One of his many problems is that he will never admit he is wrong. I recall a conversation with him where I corrected him regarding a crewing issue and offered proof. He called crewing and was told the same, yet he would not back down...well now I hear he is moaning to the PSs and such about the state of the airline (crew wise)...

When premium flights go without a full crew complement (no CS) it really is a bad sign...pax have complained and rightly so.

I also hear that the crewing dept had a virus sent and they lost track for a few days! Calling crew who were on overseas trips!!

Surprised that Mr. Misery BG is still there. He is such a wet blanket and a useless manager...spinelesss. Better off staying on the Golf Course having conversations with himself.

Bang: I am in touch with GD and aware of his movements. Good to hear.
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Old 1st Jan 2004, 02:53
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Bang: "QR crew girls cannot entertain even the female friends after dark", what is this suppose to mean?

No offense, but I can understand why you and all others who say they work or have worked feel miserable at QR. If you keep believing that everything is bad, get upset about everything and sneak into other people's business, of course you are getting yourself into problems.

During my time with them, never once did I ever experience anything of what you are saying. Nor did my friends and many of those are still there very happy!

Just leave and all your problems will be gone in no time.
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Old 2nd Jan 2004, 14:18
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Ayomide,

Thanks for the comments,but we all have reasons for sticking to this place or reasons have been made for us,to stick to this place.

It is a pleasure to hear that you had good time at QR plus your current friends are enjoying QR. I,however find it more than difficult to belive.because NO ONE is happy here.

* What I meant in my previouse post was,that female crew are no more allowed to have even "female friends" in their apartments.
...sure you got the entertainment part mixed up,isnt it? hehe...

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Old 2nd Jan 2004, 15:17
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No job is worth all that effort you keep writing about. There are better jobs elsewhere. No bonds can be signed for cabin crew either, because they don't do such bonds! Which means you are free to leave, today.

Talked to a friend yesterday in Qatar and she sounded happy!
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Old 3rd Jan 2004, 19:35
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Cabin Crew DO sign bonds and I have signed bonds in the past and present as well.

easier said " you re free to go" than done.

Happy for your friend who is happy there.must be 01 in 1000.
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Old 3rd Jan 2004, 19:46
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Yes, bonds for each month, but not any longer. I worked there, I know what it's like.
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Old 3rd Jan 2004, 21:01
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The fact remains that crew are constantly being ill treated at QR. Whether it happens to you or not is irrelevant. It DOES go on!

A long serving CSD has recently resigned and is having difficulty receiving her clearance payment.

One particular PS (YB) has been calling a CSD saying that his PAs are not procedure. Meanwhile she operates a flight and tells the CSD NOT to use the whiteboard in the briefing (which is procedure) despite the fact that someone lost out on promotion for something similar!!

YB is the same as BG and SK. Brown nose all the way. She waltzed into QR as if she was better than anyone else. Was fast tracked up the ranks whilst more suitable and better qualified people were pushed aside. She has no idea on how to manage her crew and criticises the slightest thing even though she has no idea about procedures!

Oh and check this out: A PEW flight was paired DOH PEW LHE DOH. The flight went with "6 crew" (plus the CSD I believe) and AAB came on board and strictly told the CSD that the full service had to be done!!!

...and then there's the CSD who reported two female crew for having a beer with dinner. One beer!! They were well within the limits...of couirse they were both sacked!

As long as this kind of crap goes on, the airline will never last.

Oh and Ayomide. the above are all from a reliable source. Just because you don't hear about these things does not mean they don't happen. As Bang says, we are glad you enjoyed your time, but we are posting facts as we see them. I am very happy where I am but still have many friends at QR who cannot leave for one reason or another. I feel for them. It is a forum to discuss and not start a slanging match.

Cheers

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