Combined Asthma, peak flow, and spirometry thread
It isn't so much the peak flow (you should be within "normal " limits) but FEV-1 in other words Forced Expiratory Volume - 70%.
You should be able to blow (exhale) 70% volume of your peak flow in one second. This will produce a distinctive shape on the graph which shows how good your lungs are. Do a google search and you will see.
You should be able to blow (exhale) 70% volume of your peak flow in one second. This will produce a distinctive shape on the graph which shows how good your lungs are. Do a google search and you will see.
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is asthma noted as a restriction on Class 1
Hi,
If you have asthma and have to take a preventitive inhailor every day is this noted in some way on the class one medical as maybe a restriction ?
Tks,
If you have asthma and have to take a preventitive inhailor every day is this noted in some way on the class one medical as maybe a restriction ?
Tks,
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hi my name is joe
and im actually 13 years old
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i have asthma and hayfever and i am trying to join the united states air force when im older.
i was annoyed when i found out about people with asthma arent aloud to join. so i have started having runs at 7:00 am so my asthma can get better.
can specialists delete your history of asthma once your de diagnosed?
and im actually 13 years old
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i have asthma and hayfever and i am trying to join the united states air force when im older.
i was annoyed when i found out about people with asthma arent aloud to join. so i have started having runs at 7:00 am so my asthma can get better.
can specialists delete your history of asthma once your de diagnosed?
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Unfortunately the term "asthma" gets banded around quite a lot in medicine.
Patients may be labelled whether they have a mild wheeze when they get a cold, or whether they have to take shed loads of medication on a daily basis.
Sorry, can't answer specifics re: airlines / raf etc, but it would appear that asthmatic pilots do exist. (It may be worth performing a search for your specific enquiry).
Being pilot's you are fixating on numbers, the answers you are looking for can be found amongst this lot http://www.brit-thoracic.org.uk/Guid...97_asthma_html
I suspect that your examining doc would be more interested in the frequency and duration of your symptoms, how they affect your day to day life, whether or not you've needed hospital admission etc, rather than relying on figures alone.
On a positive note, symptoms can usually be well controlled, with patience and accurate treatment.
PS Joey, it may be worth having a word with your doc, to ensure he has made the correct diagnosis.
Patients may be labelled whether they have a mild wheeze when they get a cold, or whether they have to take shed loads of medication on a daily basis.
Sorry, can't answer specifics re: airlines / raf etc, but it would appear that asthmatic pilots do exist. (It may be worth performing a search for your specific enquiry).
Being pilot's you are fixating on numbers, the answers you are looking for can be found amongst this lot http://www.brit-thoracic.org.uk/Guid...97_asthma_html
I suspect that your examining doc would be more interested in the frequency and duration of your symptoms, how they affect your day to day life, whether or not you've needed hospital admission etc, rather than relying on figures alone.
On a positive note, symptoms can usually be well controlled, with patience and accurate treatment.
PS Joey, it may be worth having a word with your doc, to ensure he has made the correct diagnosis.
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From memory, current asthma is a complete no-no for pilots in the RAF. If you were asthmatic as a child but have grown out of it then I think you need to be symptom free for 5 years with no treatment to be considered. The CAA rules will be more relaxed.
Generally, if it's well controlled and the Peak Flow is OK then you may well be lucky.
Certain asthmatics are worsened by exercise, just the same as some are made worse by cold or certain allergens (animal fur, house dust mites, etc) so that is why the CAA make you run round the block!
Generally, if it's well controlled and the Peak Flow is OK then you may well be lucky.
Certain asthmatics are worsened by exercise, just the same as some are made worse by cold or certain allergens (animal fur, house dust mites, etc) so that is why the CAA make you run round the block!
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If I go for a run in cold air there's a very good chance I'll get the asthmatic cough that's just such fun...
So, if you're someone who gets that cough and you suspect you might be made to go for a run for your Class 1, take up jogging before the medical (be careful though) and don't do the medical in winter.
So, if you're someone who gets that cough and you suspect you might be made to go for a run for your Class 1, take up jogging before the medical (be careful though) and don't do the medical in winter.
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According to the CAA document detailing respiratory requirements you need to satisfy the following for a Class 1 medical:
FEV1/FVC Ratio needs to be more than 70%, not just FEV1 - there is usually a marked difference between the two with FEV1 being the higher figure by quite a margin (well in my case anyway)....An FEV1/FVC Ratio of less than 70% needs to be examined by a specialist in respiratory disease.
For a Class 2 medical you need to have a peak flow of more than 80% of your predicted value, anything less and once again this will be reffered to a specialist.
Hope this helps....
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FEV1/FVC Ratio needs to be more than 70%, not just FEV1 - there is usually a marked difference between the two with FEV1 being the higher figure by quite a margin (well in my case anyway)....An FEV1/FVC Ratio of less than 70% needs to be examined by a specialist in respiratory disease.
For a Class 2 medical you need to have a peak flow of more than 80% of your predicted value, anything less and once again this will be reffered to a specialist.
Hope this helps....
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To clarify, the FEV1/FVC ratio should be about 70% in healthy subjects. It is the ratio of the volume expired in 1 second during forced expiration (the FEV1) and the total volume expired in the same expired breath (the Forced Vital Capacity) the FVC is therefore ALWAYS higher than the FEV1 (unless, you complete the expiration in less than 1 second!)
An FEV1/FVC ratio of less than 70% suggests an obstructive disease (like asthma). A ratio of greater than 80% suggests other respiratory disease so 100% is definitely NOT the target to aim for!
The FEV1/FVC ratio is just one of the tests used to check respiratory function.
You need to be careful whether you are talking about a ratio between two values in the same patient or whether you are comparing a patient's value with the predicted value for a patient of that age and sex.
Sorry for the long post but it is important to get this distinction right
An FEV1/FVC ratio of less than 70% suggests an obstructive disease (like asthma). A ratio of greater than 80% suggests other respiratory disease so 100% is definitely NOT the target to aim for!
The FEV1/FVC ratio is just one of the tests used to check respiratory function.
You need to be careful whether you are talking about a ratio between two values in the same patient or whether you are comparing a patient's value with the predicted value for a patient of that age and sex.
Sorry for the long post but it is important to get this distinction right
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I got my class 1 in winter with asthma.
Initially I had to run around the block a few times at Gatwick and failed it.
It then took up jogging to *train* my lungs to use less air at excercise. This meant that there were not breathing in so much irritating cold air that would bring on my asthma. That is my advise - it worked well for me.
Also, I agree with the other poster that asthma can be well controlled with patience. You need to find out...
- What medication is acceptable to the CAA.
- What from that list works the best for you.
- What are your main triggers and how to avoid them.
- Techniques to use when you feel a bit tight chested e.g. abdominal breathing.
- Natural remedies - I think Apples help me and coffee induces it for example.
The CAA want to see that your asthma is well controlled. That means your peak flow does not drop below (whatever) FEV1 after excercise. If you can control your Asthma then you can get your class 1.
Also, there must be asthmatic pilots as its becoming more and more common.
Also
if you have allergies you may have a post nasal drip causing inflamation. Try getting a Neti Pot (google it) and give your nose a good rinse out. Slightly off topic but might help some people!
Initially I had to run around the block a few times at Gatwick and failed it.
It then took up jogging to *train* my lungs to use less air at excercise. This meant that there were not breathing in so much irritating cold air that would bring on my asthma. That is my advise - it worked well for me.
Also, I agree with the other poster that asthma can be well controlled with patience. You need to find out...
- What medication is acceptable to the CAA.
- What from that list works the best for you.
- What are your main triggers and how to avoid them.
- Techniques to use when you feel a bit tight chested e.g. abdominal breathing.
- Natural remedies - I think Apples help me and coffee induces it for example.
The CAA want to see that your asthma is well controlled. That means your peak flow does not drop below (whatever) FEV1 after excercise. If you can control your Asthma then you can get your class 1.
Also, there must be asthmatic pilots as its becoming more and more common.
Also
if you have allergies you may have a post nasal drip causing inflamation. Try getting a Neti Pot (google it) and give your nose a good rinse out. Slightly off topic but might help some people!
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Asthma+Cabin Crew=?
Ok Guys n Gals,
I have applied to Emirates for Cabin Crew, and pass through group stages and interview, waiting for approval and then get my medicals done.
Now I have asthma, but I did'nt touch on this on the Open Day, and now I am really 'regretting' it.
Basically. I am 21 years old. I had asthma diagonosed when I was a lickle baby (1 or 2) and it got worse and worse from (7-15) when I was 13.8 stones. (Now, Im 10 stones, slim, perfect shape!!!) I got admitted to local hospitals every year for asthma attaks (mild), in winter because winter triggered me off!So basically, i got nebulisers and ventolin/servtide. I was getting better as the dose got up. When I was 14.5, I got worse and doctor/pead. prescribed me tablets: Singulair/Montelukast. ITS AMAZING! Just 2 months of this, my PF reading went woosh! and a lung test results comapred to previous went WOOSH!. As, my asthma got better, I exercised,eat healthy,worked out at gym and lost weight in 7 yrs. Now I can run miles without coughing and wheezing.
However, I have the slight cough in winter, when its snowing.
My asthma paed. discharged me at 15 and my asthma had improved LOADS. I dont smoke,I dont passive smoke etc.
Will this show up on medicals?Is it good to tell EK?Will they say 'NO' to me? *Lol.Shall I keep my mouth shut and turn a blind eye on it?
Because Dubai is hot, really hot! So I just dont know?
I think I should ring up EK Recruitment and tell them, but I'm really scared they might dissmiss me. I worked so hard!
HELP PEOPLE. I need advice.
P.S: Emirates might phone me in 2 weeks time to confirm and then get my medicals done and sent over and I could be in Dubai in November/October/Dec. If they find out in DXB, they can't send me back, can they?
Going to ring EK on Monday 3rd Sep.
I have applied to Emirates for Cabin Crew, and pass through group stages and interview, waiting for approval and then get my medicals done.
Now I have asthma, but I did'nt touch on this on the Open Day, and now I am really 'regretting' it.
Basically. I am 21 years old. I had asthma diagonosed when I was a lickle baby (1 or 2) and it got worse and worse from (7-15) when I was 13.8 stones. (Now, Im 10 stones, slim, perfect shape!!!) I got admitted to local hospitals every year for asthma attaks (mild), in winter because winter triggered me off!So basically, i got nebulisers and ventolin/servtide. I was getting better as the dose got up. When I was 14.5, I got worse and doctor/pead. prescribed me tablets: Singulair/Montelukast. ITS AMAZING! Just 2 months of this, my PF reading went woosh! and a lung test results comapred to previous went WOOSH!. As, my asthma got better, I exercised,eat healthy,worked out at gym and lost weight in 7 yrs. Now I can run miles without coughing and wheezing.
However, I have the slight cough in winter, when its snowing.
My asthma paed. discharged me at 15 and my asthma had improved LOADS. I dont smoke,I dont passive smoke etc.
Will this show up on medicals?Is it good to tell EK?Will they say 'NO' to me? *Lol.Shall I keep my mouth shut and turn a blind eye on it?
Because Dubai is hot, really hot! So I just dont know?
I think I should ring up EK Recruitment and tell them, but I'm really scared they might dissmiss me. I worked so hard!
HELP PEOPLE. I need advice.
P.S: Emirates might phone me in 2 weeks time to confirm and then get my medicals done and sent over and I could be in Dubai in November/October/Dec. If they find out in DXB, they can't send me back, can they?
Going to ring EK on Monday 3rd Sep.
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By no means do i know anything about cabin crew, but i very much doubt you'd be accepted with bad ashma 
Just my opinion tho! Although i doubt you would.
many thanks
Just my opinion tho! Although i doubt you would.many thanks
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Thats ok!
Basically, in my "teen years" from like 7 years to 14 it was bad. Then I was prescribed this 'Singulair' tabbo once a day (I was told to stopped taking it at 19 as my asthma improved dramastically with my weight!) and now I only have a special inhaler on a low dosage, incase I have the odd cough on a winter night which is really rare (i mean really), saves me making a trip to A&E just for a neb!
So, I can run long distances without a wheeze.
Anyways, I heard that DXB medical is very basic, like dental,xray of chest?,ECG,Disease check i think and more or less on the lines of that.
In training, they will assess on swimming (which I love) and probarly light work outs but I very much doubt they will send me back half way through CC training because I can't run around the building three times without panting for breath!
Also, the Medical here is also nothing to do with breathing,(i think) just health wise like jabs,dental,disease etc!
I think best way forward is to contact Louise or Mariah at recruitment in dubai and see what they say or should i just be quiet about it?
Thanks for your reply
Basically, in my "teen years" from like 7 years to 14 it was bad. Then I was prescribed this 'Singulair' tabbo once a day (I was told to stopped taking it at 19 as my asthma improved dramastically with my weight!) and now I only have a special inhaler on a low dosage, incase I have the odd cough on a winter night which is really rare (i mean really), saves me making a trip to A&E just for a neb!
So, I can run long distances without a wheeze.
Anyways, I heard that DXB medical is very basic, like dental,xray of chest?,ECG,Disease check i think and more or less on the lines of that.
In training, they will assess on swimming (which I love) and probarly light work outs but I very much doubt they will send me back half way through CC training because I can't run around the building three times without panting for breath!
Also, the Medical here is also nothing to do with breathing,(i think) just health wise like jabs,dental,disease etc!
I think best way forward is to contact Louise or Mariah at recruitment in dubai and see what they say or should i just be quiet about it?
Thanks for your reply
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WOHOO!
Thanks so much.
On Sunday (DXB Business week start) I will email or phone them.
They said we will ring you in 4-6 weeks. About 3 weeks passed so the early the better. I will tell you bout the outcome
As on this forum mentioned before "No news is good news" lol
Are you a pilot or...?
Thanks so much.
On Sunday (DXB Business week start) I will email or phone them.
They said we will ring you in 4-6 weeks. About 3 weeks passed so the early the better. I will tell you bout the outcome
As on this forum mentioned before "No news is good news" lol
Are you a pilot or...?
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My advice is to be honest with the company.
If your asthma han't been a problem for years, and you are well controlled on preventive medication, there should be no problem. If you have significant asthma that is not well controlled, you shouldn't be doing that job at the moment. If you are not honest with the company, and they later find out, they might have good grounds to dismiss you, regardless of how well your asthma is controlled.
Cheers,
BM
If your asthma han't been a problem for years, and you are well controlled on preventive medication, there should be no problem. If you have significant asthma that is not well controlled, you shouldn't be doing that job at the moment. If you are not honest with the company, and they later find out, they might have good grounds to dismiss you, regardless of how well your asthma is controlled.
Cheers,
BM
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I was thinking that too, but after your words of confidence I feel I should just ring them on Sunday, and tell them. It's well controlled so maybe...thumbs up!!
I'll tell you how it goes...
Thanks so much
I'll tell you how it goes...
Thanks so much
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Hey!
Thanks for the suggestion
I just Google'd it and it's apparently a Russion breathing technique.
I'll try it.
I really hope it works however my asthma is really good now
Edit: Just had a pop on the site. It looks great! AND ITS IN MANCHESTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am going to have a proper read, ask my Dr., and go for it.
Thanks soooooooooooooo much
Thanks for the suggestion
I just Google'd it and it's apparently a Russion breathing technique.
I'll try it.
I really hope it works however my asthma is really good now
Edit: Just had a pop on the site. It looks great! AND ITS IN MANCHESTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am going to have a proper read, ask my Dr., and go for it.
Thanks soooooooooooooo much