VISION THREAD (other than colour vision)
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No more appointments to foreigners in dubendorf???
Hi there,
a few days ago i sent an e.mail to check about making an appointment at the Aeromedical Center in Dübendorf, and i was surprised by the e-mail e got back...
"Dear Sir
Unfortunately we do not fix appointments anymore for people from abroad.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again for further questions.
Yours sincerely
xxxx xxxxStv Leiter Arbeitsbereich Human Technics & Support
Eidgenössisches Departement für Verteidigung,
Bevölkerungsschutz und Sport VBS
Verteidigung - Luftwaffe
Fliegerärztliches Institut FAI / Aeromedical Center
Bettlistrasse 16; 8600 Dübendorf+41 44 823 25 19 (Sekr)+41 44 823 25 42 (Büro)+41 44 823 25 20 (Fax) "
did i sent the e-mail to the wrong medical center???
a few days ago i sent an e.mail to check about making an appointment at the Aeromedical Center in Dübendorf, and i was surprised by the e-mail e got back...
"Dear Sir
Unfortunately we do not fix appointments anymore for people from abroad.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again for further questions.
Yours sincerely
xxxx xxxxStv Leiter Arbeitsbereich Human Technics & Support
Eidgenössisches Departement für Verteidigung,
Bevölkerungsschutz und Sport VBS
Verteidigung - Luftwaffe
Fliegerärztliches Institut FAI / Aeromedical Center
Bettlistrasse 16; 8600 Dübendorf+41 44 823 25 19 (Sekr)+41 44 823 25 42 (Büro)+41 44 823 25 20 (Fax) "
did i sent the e-mail to the wrong medical center???
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Diagnosed Moderate protomenous
FAA CLass 1 with SODA unrestricted
JAR Class 1 restricted to daytime only no public Transport
I gained CAA night rating based on US medical so met JAR CPL/IR requirements (must have night rating) but although they issued me a night rating and charged me for it (after training with JAR instructor at night and proving safe and competent) - they then restricted my license to daytime only !
I have gained night experience and if I thought I was unsafe I would definitley not fly as I do not have a deathwish.
The JAR system is geared up to stop CVD pilots before they ever gain a license. I was odd because I already had an FAA license and had proved myself to be able to fly safely at night no proble. I now fly IFR without any issues.
Moral of the story based on my own experiences (and CVD condition)
Keep on flying and don't let anyone tell you that you shouldn't be a pilot. Only stop if you are unsafe and cannot distinguish the colours that you need to see for example red / white for PAPI / VASI's - One day soon the rules will change for the better.
FAA CLass 1 with SODA unrestricted
JAR Class 1 restricted to daytime only no public Transport
I gained CAA night rating based on US medical so met JAR CPL/IR requirements (must have night rating) but although they issued me a night rating and charged me for it (after training with JAR instructor at night and proving safe and competent) - they then restricted my license to daytime only !
I have gained night experience and if I thought I was unsafe I would definitley not fly as I do not have a deathwish.
The JAR system is geared up to stop CVD pilots before they ever gain a license. I was odd because I already had an FAA license and had proved myself to be able to fly safely at night no proble. I now fly IFR without any issues.
Moral of the story based on my own experiences (and CVD condition)
Keep on flying and don't let anyone tell you that you shouldn't be a pilot. Only stop if you are unsafe and cannot distinguish the colours that you need to see for example red / white for PAPI / VASI's - One day soon the rules will change for the better.
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Some colour tests you can buy..
Hey guys, just found this website, i thought some of you might be interested...
http://www.dgcolour.co.uk/products-c...FQpCMAod4WJwMQ
take care,
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take care,
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thanx TELBOY
Thank you much fella'......
I'm here in the US and i fly with no problem with my FAA 1, no limitations with a soda (had to do light gun test).....
I was just wondering what are the standards in middle east since there's a lot of jobs there, i was wondering if they would let go a first class with a soda or if the company clinic will turn us down for CVD...... i heard different opinions....
anybody else has experience with that?????
P.S. dont give up on the greencard....that's how i got here....
Regards everybody.
Zagno
I'm here in the US and i fly with no problem with my FAA 1, no limitations with a soda (had to do light gun test).....
I was just wondering what are the standards in middle east since there's a lot of jobs there, i was wondering if they would let go a first class with a soda or if the company clinic will turn us down for CVD...... i heard different opinions....
anybody else has experience with that?????
P.S. dont give up on the greencard....that's how i got here....
Regards everybody.
Zagno
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Europe BS
Telboy
i couldn't agree more with you about european BS when it comes down to CVD......what can you do???? just hope for the future for all the people with this issue....i have mild protano-something i've been flying glass cockpit at night for 3 years now with NO ISSUES AT ALL its all discriminating BS......
Just move to the states or canada or australia...in this places is fairly easy to get a 1st class with CVD.....
I'm still wondering about middle east and the requirement for the local authority and for the specific companies....they accept ICAO license and medicals....but what about soda????
Anibody know????
Take care y'all
i couldn't agree more with you about european BS when it comes down to CVD......what can you do???? just hope for the future for all the people with this issue....i have mild protano-something i've been flying glass cockpit at night for 3 years now with NO ISSUES AT ALL its all discriminating BS......
Just move to the states or canada or australia...in this places is fairly easy to get a 1st class with CVD.....
I'm still wondering about middle east and the requirement for the local authority and for the specific companies....they accept ICAO license and medicals....but what about soda????
Anibody know????
Take care y'all
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I feel the same way Scottish CPL, I've done so much research I think I'd qualify for an honoury doctorate at City Uni. It's sadly become part of my daily routine, checking out the PPRUNE site for any updates on CVD, now and again I pop to have a look at the CAA site, I should know better really, they have much more important things to deal with, like investigating airlines who lose bags. ha!
I'm not sure where it'll all end up, but here's hoping they sort something soon, and for good. We can then close this thread down and we all know where we stand, end of story.
Do we really have to make the testing process this complex.
I'm not sure where it'll all end up, but here's hoping they sort something soon, and for good. We can then close this thread down and we all know where we stand, end of story.
Do we really have to make the testing process this complex.
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For Sale - Limited Edition
Rare Limited Edition For Sale to Good Home
Limited-edition pink-vinyl 12" picture-disc of Agadoo signed by Alan Barton whilst he was on holiday in Skegness when the cloud cover was BKN026 and the wind was 370/10
Limited-edition pink-vinyl 12" picture-disc of Agadoo signed by Alan Barton whilst he was on holiday in Skegness when the cloud cover was BKN026 and the wind was 370/10
Well said, Shunter, glad to see that wine has come in for some good use. Time for me to hit the Strongbow, methinks!!!
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Stella for me - well said Shunter. I'm 16 years and still fighting (JAA that is, FAA are OK!).
Lets em - I'm working on it
Lets em - I'm working on it
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Guys , good to know that I am not unique in being a dogmatic headstrong, argumentative not take no for an answer SOB who won't let some light box technician tell me that I can't fly a plane safely at night. Clear Logic is a pure curse sometimes.
I think that we will see some light at the end of the tunnell but in the meantime it is great to know that you guys are also out there making sure that this nonsense stops as soon as possible.
The more qualified and experienced we get, the more daft their pathetic arguments will be.
Off to listen to Agadoo and have a pint of Stella !
I think that we will see some light at the end of the tunnell but in the meantime it is great to know that you guys are also out there making sure that this nonsense stops as soon as possible.
The more qualified and experienced we get, the more daft their pathetic arguments will be.
Off to listen to Agadoo and have a pint of Stella !
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And just to keep everyone happy whilst they quaff their personal tipples......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu-UkTv8tVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu-UkTv8tVk
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Daniel,
Each ICAO state has its own regulations. In JAA (Europe) we have very restrictive regulations on Colour Vision and in fact until late 2009 the UK CAA has the most liberal of all EU states in allowing a restricted class 1 medical.
The USA has a very liberal view of colour vision - see the FAA website for details. Canada is similar and Australia has it's own regulations after a law suite by Dr Pape.
In short the ICAO has no definitave answers for CVD and a medical for a professional licence - I say professional licence as in JAA land it is a class 1 medical, but in the US you can fly on CPL with class 2.
The destinction between states is very different and you need to pinpoint where you want to fly and under which licence. I'm sure that when you can answer these questions we will be able to give you very specific answers.
In short there is no ICAO medical - each state will view it as its own and this will vary much between ICAO states. As I said you need to be specific where you want to fly and under which licence.
Congratulations on joining this forum and I wish you all the best in your future flying.
Each ICAO state has its own regulations. In JAA (Europe) we have very restrictive regulations on Colour Vision and in fact until late 2009 the UK CAA has the most liberal of all EU states in allowing a restricted class 1 medical.
The USA has a very liberal view of colour vision - see the FAA website for details. Canada is similar and Australia has it's own regulations after a law suite by Dr Pape.
In short the ICAO has no definitave answers for CVD and a medical for a professional licence - I say professional licence as in JAA land it is a class 1 medical, but in the US you can fly on CPL with class 2.
The destinction between states is very different and you need to pinpoint where you want to fly and under which licence. I'm sure that when you can answer these questions we will be able to give you very specific answers.
In short there is no ICAO medical - each state will view it as its own and this will vary much between ICAO states. As I said you need to be specific where you want to fly and under which licence.
Congratulations on joining this forum and I wish you all the best in your future flying.
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Its been a while
Hey guys!
Once again its been a while since iv posted on here, just thought id touch base and say hi.
Doesnt seem to be any major leaps forward with the fight from what iv read so far which is what i expected given how annoying the caa are. I read a post of daniel, form argentina.... i assume you are cvd? you were asking about austrailia.
Have you done much reasearch into flying over there? iv done very little still, but it appears that going over and getting an "atpl" and flying there is a possibility, is there anyone on this forum who is from the uk, cvd and flying for an airline, or at least for money over there? Id really like to speak to you if you are. Theres just a minefeild of information which drives you mad trying to sort through it to find what you need...
Good luck everyone....
Once again its been a while since iv posted on here, just thought id touch base and say hi.
Doesnt seem to be any major leaps forward with the fight from what iv read so far which is what i expected given how annoying the caa are. I read a post of daniel, form argentina.... i assume you are cvd? you were asking about austrailia.
Have you done much reasearch into flying over there? iv done very little still, but it appears that going over and getting an "atpl" and flying there is a possibility, is there anyone on this forum who is from the uk, cvd and flying for an airline, or at least for money over there? Id really like to speak to you if you are. Theres just a minefeild of information which drives you mad trying to sort through it to find what you need...
Good luck everyone....
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CAA eye test- AME vs Ophthalmologist vs Optician
Well the guy at the CAA isn't an AME or an ophthalmologist. He is an optician- kind of person you have your eyes tested by in the local shopping centre who then tries to sell you rip off glasses you don't want. Would much rather be told i have failed after having my eyes tested by a doctor who has studied at university and knows what they are looking at, thank you very much.
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Call me a traditionalist, or even old fashioned, but I was around before the days nurses or spectacle sellers were allowed to call themselves healthcare professionals. There is some value in having a doctors do medical examinations as they will always have a greater understanding of what is wrong, and perhaps have the training to break bad news in a more emphathic manner.