pimoni

Salve a tutti!qualcuno ha info riguardo l'invio di pilot application a Lufthansa Italia?sito internet o telefono?..so che per ora vola con crew tedeschi,forse piu avanti...Ciao ciao

EAM

forse, forse, forse...no.
Come e la situatione? Il contratto dei piloti LH dice, che tutti a/c con pui di 70 posti e colore LH deve essere operato da piloti LH, e questo non si chambia.
In pui, LH al momento ha ca. 100-200 piloti in piu, non credo che cosi prendono altri piloti per LHITA.

Ma si sa mai.

AFD

Peccato tu non possa leggere la mail che hanno mandato ai piloti che hanno avuto l'idea di mandare il cv a lh italia
Ne riparliamo verso l'autunno quando saranno assunti i primi piloti italiani,selezioni a luglio
Informati meglio eam

AFD

Domani mi procuro la mail e te la giro in pvt

flyblue

Perché non la posti qui invece?

Speevy

ma soppratutto dove si manda sto cv?

Speevy

AlfaVictor

...manda il CV qui:

[email protected]

Macroburst

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

[email protected]

Sitting Bull

To all who are desperately hoping to join LH Italia:

in the foreseeable future we are going to offer First Officer positions in LH Italia (sorry no Captains), to pilots who are able to

1. produce a Highschool Diploma (Maturita) at least equivalent to the German Abitur
2. are able to speak, read and write German
3. hold a JAR-ATPL
4. are able to pass at least ICAO level 4 English
5. are able to pass the DLR-Test
5. are able to pass the LH Firmenqualifikation (Sim, etc.)

EVERY pilot wishing to join ANY LH subsidiary as a Direct Entry has to fulfill all of the above, so nobody can complain about unfair treatment (we are an equal opportunity employer).

So please feel free to continue to discuss this matter all you wish, as no matter what you think, hear, say or believe, this is how itīs gonna be.

Best of luck and Ciao

Macroburst

Danke !!

AFD

Dear sitting bull if you will be so kind to wait a couple or hours,or less maybe,you will read what lufthansa italia has written to the italian pilots who are sending their cv to them
I don't know if you're italian speaker,if you are not,you won't understand the meaning of this email infact lufthansa italia has answered writing in italian rather than english as i would have expected

Giggey

Al di lā di tutti i requisiti postati precedentemente credo che il tedesco non possa essere inserito come lingua necessaria in quanto LH Italia č una compagnia aerea Italiana con aoc Italiano.

Che diamine, allora se lavoro in Toyota Italia devo parlare il giapponese etc etc?

ciao

Sitting Bull

Dear AFD

Thanks for the forwarded message. My Italian is definitely good enough to read and understand the text and, as you must agree, nowhere in this mail it is mentioned what you will have to do to actually get the job, once invited.

Anyway, please donīt get me wrong: I couldnīt care less who gets in and who doesnīt. I just wanted to let you know what you have to expect. If you prefer to believe that Iīm wrong, so be it.

But please: once you finish the selection, take the time to tell everyone who was right, you or me.

Funny though, how all the people "outside" LH know so much more about this matter than us "inside" LH.

AFD

It's definitely more funny that an insider like you are,is not aware that lufthansa is writing in italian to his apllicant
it's also really strange that you doesn't know that one of the first question lh italia has received is: " is the german language knowledge required?"

and the best answer is an email(not the one i forwarded to you) written in italian and saying that lh italia will be(when the aoc will be received) an italian company where german language knowledge is not required

i have much more insider friends in DLH than ever you could imagine,i perfectly know that they are recruiting now from inside LH,people speaking ITALIAN especially for flight attendant position.
these screenings have been started during january and are still going through

screening for italian personnel won't be started before the end of the summer

it's not so important to be inside or outside,especially when you know many people INSIDE

bye

afd

EAM

Dear AFD,

even if you repeat this 10 times or 100 times, it will not change the situation.
Why do you think they are not hireing pilots now? Because of the contract with the union.

LH coloured aircrafts (>70 seats) with LH pilots only.

So until they dont find an agreement with the union, which is quite unlikly due 200 pilots surplus in LH, they will not be able to hire pilots for LHITA.

About your email, it actually means nothing. I have received an email like this a few month ago to do the start up of LHITA and as you see, it didnt happen like this.

AFD

I don't think so.
I know that they're waiting for the italian AOC,in order to hire pilots from outside,and at the moment they don't have AOC,and they're not sure to obtain it 'cause it depends from italian ENAC as you know very well,so it depends from an outside factor non controllable by LH.


i'm sorry sir but the year has just begun and you should wait at least few more month before saying what you're saying,it could be like you say,but to be sure you should wait more time in my poor opinion

in the email is clearly written during the year,and this year is long not less then the others one,so we are still in the first part
we'll wait and see

EAM

It does not depend on the italian AOC, it depends on an agreement with the LH union. LHITA, with italian AOC can not hire pilots for LH coloured A320 as long as there is not any agreement with the union. At the moment I doubt that this will happen soon. I dont say it wont.

About "your email" it is clear that LH/LHITA wants to hire personal from outside, that does not mean that they will be able to do it, labour law it quite strict in germany and for german companies.

AFD

in germany? lh ita will be based in italy and will have italian aoc so i don't think i'm saying something terribly wrong if i say that german labor law doesn't apply to an italian company,isn't it?

does german law applies to ITALIAN company,as for example air dolomiti? an italian company fully (100%) owned by LH

you continue to consider lh italia a GERMAN company,as it is NOW,if LH ITA would obtain an italian AOC,it will be an ITALIAN company
meybe you don't know it but at the moment an italian society has not been established yes by the LH management,because at the time being is almost useless,this passage is required to obtain an italian AOC,which could be required by an italian company ONLY
the italian society foundation is expected to be not before next summer

the aicraft colour is another story and i can agree with you,and that depends by the agreement between unions and lh,but you'd better not confuse the actual LH ITA with the future LH ITA,infact as i say again,NOW IT'S GERMAN and so german labour law does apply,but as soon as the LH will fund an italian society(required passage to obtain the AOC) it won't be GERMAN anymore,but fully ITALIAN so you'd better understand this,because you are always talking about this new company as a german one

as you know on march 27th will be shown the lh ita program for the future

now it's german in the future we'll see,enac could release an aoc or not,the future is unclear for everybody

p.s. italian registration mark are already known
I-LHKA
I-LHKB
I-LHKC

etc

by the way aicraft colour,unions,and agreement with the management is another story and maybe lh could accept that only german pilots would fly lh ita aircraft
we'll wait and see

tarjet fixated

DLR-Test BU/GU in 3 stages & FQ/FU


Did "the world" ever speak either of the two?Me thinks not.....thank goodness!

EAM

Yes it does, so far as LH is a german company and can not give flights, a/c etc to its subsidiary, such as EN or LHITA f its not according to the contract with LH and the unions, even if the subsidiary is a foreign company.
That is why the EN project has been stopped in october.

So we agree, LHITA is/will be an italian company, no doubt, but its future depends on the agreement with the LH unions. I am only talking about pilots, not about CAs, thats an other story.



Credi mi, io ero quasi selezionato per fare il start up di LHITA con EN, e io aspetto ogni giorno la desicione della LH/LHITA per prendere commandanti e piloti da fuori, ma con pui di 200 piloti in esubero in LH al momento ho pocco sperenza di questo.

Se ce la possibilita di entrare in LHITA come Com.te fine questo anno ti pago una bella birra tedesca...anche due .