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Speed_Alive_V1 27th Jun 2016 13:49

Aer Lingus Mentored Cadet Pilot Programme 2017
 
Open early this year - several changes to the application process it seems.

cadet-pilots - Aer Lingus Careers

Best of luck all.

speed_alive_rotate 27th Jun 2016 14:03

Excludes those with ATPLs or above PPL Level I guess!!

FlyVeryHigh- 27th Jun 2016 18:13

Seems selection is being handled in house this year, like some of the previous years.


Any ideas on the number of cadets they want?

bsal 27th Jun 2016 18:46

Usually 10-20 has been the norm in the last few years.

LandingConfig 27th Jun 2016 18:58

Think it was 12 last year.

RedMachine 27th Jun 2016 19:07

Greetings !
I'm thinking of applying to the scheme, but I'm interested in what exactly do you need to upload before submitting the application?
On the website, it says "Attach your CVs and covering letters in Microsoft Word, RTF or Adobe PDF formats.".
Do you only need to attach your CV and cover letter, or some proof of education (translated of course) ? Or do you need to upload these at a later time during another stage of the selection process?

Thanks in advance !

UCDflyer 27th Jun 2016 20:03

Wish I could apply this year. One more year of uni left...
Please be around next year!

ezy308 27th Jun 2016 22:10

It's great that it's early this year. Good Luck to all who has applied.

magicmick 28th Jun 2016 08:24

Interesting that they require the right to live and work in the EU, depending on how EU exit negotiations go that will effect UK potential cadets in the not too distant future. Nice one Brexit!!!!!

Though if they start training in 2017, by the time the cadets have completed all FTE training and A320 TR then that will be late 2018/ early 2019 which will be round about the time that UK leaves EU so maybe UK nationals applying for the cadetship now might be at a disadvantage even though they currently have the right to live and work within EU, especially as there will be hundreds of applications from EU nationals from countries that have not indicated a desire to leave EU.

zectorpt 28th Jun 2016 13:43

Hi,

I search around the internet and sent some emails but I still not understanding.

How this programs works? They pay the trainning?

Someone know how it works?

777dream 28th Jun 2016 15:55

Good scheme from Aer lingus.

Just wondering where British nationals stand with regards to the requirements .Will Gcse and A levels results suffice in place of the leaving certificates from Ireland?

Speed_Alive_V1 28th Jun 2016 15:57

777Dream, yes, A levels are the equivalent to the Irish Leaving Cert.

777dream 28th Jun 2016 16:23

That is great .I will give it a shot .

I suspect the successful candidates will be asked to part fund the training ,and possibly have this repaid to them during employment .

Another point is you will be paid an allowance during training .

ced0802 28th Jun 2016 21:42

Do you guys know more about the tests ?

FlyVeryHigh- 29th Jun 2016 09:52

Momo,


I agree, although Aer Lingus had a very heavy presence and involvement from day 1 of selection last year (from what I seen). With Aer Lingus staff available for questions, and they sat in on the interview. I assume this was probably to learn and get a feel for how it is ran efficiently, and now its back to Aer Lingus to choose their own.


What is noticeable, is that they have set out the dates for interview, which is only 5 days! They're giving themselves plenty of time from application close to the first assessment centre (near enough 2 months). At that, considering the assessment centre is only 5 days this time as opposed to 10 last year; you're looking about 80 candidates at this stage (opposed to the 160 last year). Its going to be a toughie to get through to; likely going to be on the merit of CV and online test scores.

kfitz100 29th Jun 2016 10:40

Hello all! I had heard at one time that there was a limit to the number of times you could apply to this program if unsuccessful in previous years, but never heard any verification. Is this true? Thanks in advance

FlyVeryHigh- 30th Jun 2016 09:15

BA FPP is a 3 shot thing only.


Aer Lingus theres no limit. Most of the successful ones get it on the 3rd go, or more!

Apitu 30th Jun 2016 09:50


Most of the successful ones get it on the 3rd go, or more!
That's the way they are testing the stubbornness and determination to work for them?

FlyVeryHigh- 30th Jun 2016 09:57

I suppose that's the logic behind it; as well as the fact that each time going through the process makes you better and more informed of what they're looking for. Its only natural to improve the more times you do it.

OllieGidman 30th Jun 2016 14:13

Hi, a couple of quick questions, the Aer Lingus website states you must be 18 on or before January 1st 2016, however from memory wasn't that the same as last year? I was only 18 in February 2016 which means i cannot apply unless this is an error as it hasnt been changed? Secondly do the grades only have to be proven at the interviews in September as I don't get my results until August. Any help would be much appreciated. I emailed them but i only got a quote from the website. Thanks

EZY_FR 30th Jun 2016 14:33

I think that's a typo on their part

SouthEast 30th Jun 2016 15:00

does anyone know if they accept predicted grades?

Apitu 30th Jun 2016 17:46

Hi guys, what did you attach to your application? Is it enough just the CV and cover letter? For candidates from other countries did you attach any comparability statement for your education? Thanks

FlyVeryHigh- 30th Jun 2016 18:39

No cover letter, just a CV. I think it's just an eligibility check from the boxes you check regarding your qualifications, and then you'll get the online tests after the close date.

HEJT2015 30th Jun 2016 20:03

Could someone please enlighten me on what the online tests involve.. are they written or aptitude etc? Thank you.

HEJT2015 30th Jun 2016 20:56


Originally Posted by momo95 (Post 9426173)
Not to be funny but it only opened a couple of days ago, nobody has sat any test to be in a position to help anyone. Further to that, people apply to this in their thousands and there is fierce competition, it's the wrong program to be looking for pointers off your fellow applicants.

Prepare the usual is what I would imagine.

I'm not trying to prod people for any hints in order to gain an advantage etc. This is the first time I've been in the position to apply to this particular scheme, and the first I've heard of online tests... I'm only familiar with a written application followed by a selection day. Just curious that's all.

Coliandro 30th Jun 2016 21:01

Am I the only one which is having difficulties since yesterday accessing the Aer Lingus website?

I started my application the day before yesterday, but now after I login into my Aer Lingus profile, and click on

Your Applications
Cadet Pilot Training Programme 2017 (28.06) (Draft Application)

I get immediately logged out from my profile...

Apitu 30th Jun 2016 21:07


Am I the only one which is having difficulties since yesterday accessing the Aer Lingus website?

I started my application the day before yesterday, but now after I login into my Aer Lingus profile, and click on

Your Applications
Cadet Pilot Training Programme 2017 (28.06) (Draft Application)

I get immediately logged out from my profile...
I also had problems submitting my application,
"We are currently experiencing some technical difficulties and you have been signed out. Please sign back in to continue." Tried signing in, each time with the security questions, I'm getting the same message. I'll try again tomorrow, maybe they will fix this.

bsal 4th Jul 2016 17:19

I emailed Aer Lingus HR today to find out if someone with a PPL is eligible to apply and this is the response I received.

Dear Applicant,
Many thanks for your email.

Unfortunately, the cadetship programme is only open to untrained candidates who do not hold any licences (valid/expired)

You may apply for the Direct Entry Pilot position if advertised in the near future.

Thank you for your interest in Aer Lingus
Yours sincerely
The Aer Lingus Recruitment Team

In previous years I think it was allowed upto PPL level, so that counts me out now :(

bsal 4th Jul 2016 21:27

A user on an Irish forum where I also posted has pointed out that the HR person may not fully understand the differences between the various license types, so I have emailed HR to get clarification on the matter. I also find it strange that a PPL holder would be excluded from applying this year.

ezy308 4th Jul 2016 23:26


Originally Posted by FlyVeryHigh- (Post 9426065)
No cover letter, just a CV. I think it's just an eligibility check from the boxes you check regarding your qualifications, and then you'll get the online tests after the close date.

CV & Cover Letter is required!

FlyVeryHigh- 5th Jul 2016 07:57


Originally Posted by ezy308 (Post 9430191)
CV & Cover Letter is required!

How do you know this? It doesn't say anywhere on the application that a cover letter is required nor a CV, although only uploaded a CV because an upload box prompted it.

Cheers!

EZY_FR 5th Jul 2016 09:01

They would have explicitly stated that a cover letter was required. They didn't even ask for a CV, but it's the only way you can show EI you meet the requirements.

bsal 5th Jul 2016 10:25

A CV and cover letter is required it says so on the left hand side of the application page.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...psmq62ocbl.png

EZY_FR 5th Jul 2016 10:31

They say that for all their job roles, it was the same for another job I applied for.

ScotWings 5th Jul 2016 10:38

https://s32.postimg.org/z8yfe2kit/cv_attached.jpg

Just the cv required. It only specifically asks for a cv, and in the summary page you receive after submitting it states:


Have you attached your CV to this application form? Yes
Applicant Information - CV Attached?
Please use the attach document link on the left hand side of the page to attach your CV.

That circled paragraph is just generic for all jobs with Aer Lingus.

ezy308 5th Jul 2016 12:16

FlyVeryHigh-/EZY_FR

It clearly states 'Attach your CV's and covering letters in Microsoft Word, RTF, or Adobe PDF Formats.'

This is shown on the left side of the page, which is on page 2 of 4 of the application.

So again I'd like to reinforce that both are required.

Bsal has photographic evidence above, that both are needed.

ScotWings 5th Jul 2016 12:55

This is the daftest thing to debate, but my interpretation is that that's just a description telling which format any uploaded documents need to be in. I think the clincher are the 's' in CVs and Cover letters, suggesting that it's just a general help comment.

Could be wrong, but based on the actual instructions in the main panel, and the resulting application pdf after submission, only the cv is needed.

Wolf Dao 5th Jul 2016 13:18

To the people who have applied already, have you only received the generic "Thank you for your application" email or have you received any other emails for assessments? Or does the ball start rolling once the deadline for applications is reached? Thanks

FlyVeryHigh- 5th Jul 2016 14:03

Scot; I agree.


It won't hurt to have one attached I suppose; likewise I don't think it will negatively impact you if you don't have one.


Moving on.


When do we think online tests will be released?


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