Just another thing to think about the true motivations of this current scheme.

The Deputy HR director recently posted on LinkedIn that there is 44 suckers...sorry cadets signed up for March and April Type rating courses.

€30,000 x 44 = €1,320,000

Yeh, they really want to recruit because they NEED pilots.

In addition to the above, the recruiters are all deleting responses and blocking people who ask any questions they don’t like the look of.

Just something to think about.

Flight training is a gamble even in the best of days. You might complete your courses, get a job relatively soon and get a return on your investment - or you might take a massive hit and not recover financially for many years. This course is no exception to the general rule.

So, make sure that, albeit hoping for the good scenario, you're prepared for the bad one. Which is the quadruple whammy of having spent upwards of €30K, no job in sight, significant skills and knowledge erosion and a serious loss of confidence as a result of the former. As long as you can handle that if need be, you're good to go.

Save your money until there’s an actual demand for travel. You can’t buy a job just now.

FlyingGree

Why are you insulting people giving them names and stuff?

Have you read what people wrote?

I didn't see any insults, but plenty asking questions as to the morality of it all. All got deleted.

Why are they so sensitive to criticism and trying to sweep it under the carpet if they truly believe they have a great offering here?

Who are the "suckers"? Can they simply not be called Cadets or people?

Or "paying customers" ?

nope not accurate....customers have rights and laws to protect them.

Some research reveals that the experienced pilots here offering friendly advice to prospective Ryanair trainees actually work for British Airways, Aer Lingus and Jet2.
Bearing in mind the lead time from zero to 200hrs, I would suggest that nobody would really know whether there will be jobs in 18 months to 2 years from now, but if there are, I think they will probably be at Ryanair.

BoeingLudo737

I hadn't read the post on here you seem to be alluding to. I was talking about the fact on Linkedin Ryr deleted all questions and comments about the programme that they didn't like.

Just adding my twopence. It appears to me that in a couple of years there may well be a lack of pilots. Based upon the thoughts that our illustrious science people along with profit seeking drug companies will have a stranglehold on this virus. Given that thought along with credible thoughts that there will be the natural loss of pilots from age and other considerations. Now are the training outfits operating to fill the usual conveyor belt of new pilots at a level to just cover the natural loss elements. I don't think so. When will they get back up to steam. Hmmm, will some outfits be still in business after this episode of disruption?

So with a sort of overview, shorthaul will recover quicker, I think we can all agree on that, and with a Mr O Leary looking to take advantage, just based upon his modus of operations, if I were looking at a starting a career in aviation Ryanair would be very high on my list, in fact it would most likely the only one I would dream of serious consideration. Just to comment on a few posts throwing in the thoughts that Ryanair are looking to add to their revenue stream by recruiting cadets to make a profit from the fees required is tantamount to gross stupidity. No furtheR comments required as if common sense doesn't indicate that then don't wish to engage.

My advice for a student aspiring to become one of us, then if the financial strains can be tolerated then it is acceptable pathway.

The world is changing and the posts condemning the TR cost with no guarantees need to wise up. You get nowt for nowt these days. No one owes you a living, never mind the joy that flying can provide to dedication to our industry that permeates through and dissolves the negative haters of our business, some love and enjoy.

People spend a third of their life sleeping, a third working, and a third at other things. I know spending a third of my life working in an environment I love is my hearts desire. Sleep, of course is required for the body.

the other third, about 0.000001% on this forum. But it's worthwhile just to try and help another by posting truth. Advice, no, I recall my late dads advice, when I was in my teens, never took it, but that's for another time and place.

Good luck to all new candidates aspiring to join us in the air.

No one does owe us a living, the same way no one owes to offer o leary to effectively fly his planes for free.

Again, yes, you get nowt for nowt. You get a bonded rating, you are expected to pay it back with your service. That is a fair give and take. What you are proposing is giving them everything for nowt.

How did I and thousands around the world get our ratings paid for without being extorted obscene amounts of money by our companies? Myself included and not too long ago either. How did as recent as 2019 RYR cadets only pay 5k and 25k bonded? Pandemic you say, well hello but by the time these guys are actually needed there will be no more pandemic.

Your mentality is the reason this industry is in this state and the rest of us are left to pick up the pieces to salvage what we can. You and those like you accept the obscene as acceptable, what a disgrace to the profession.

Absolutely spot on.

A320LGW

oh dear, how sad.

as I said I don't respond to the no common sense brigade lot.

leave it at that, as all can see very clearly from this as well, so many senseless posts you have made.

If you think those that are urging caution and questioning a scheme that costs an exorbitant amount of money with absolutely ZERO guarantee of employment or financial protection are ones without common sense then you need your head examining.

If I had common sense I’d be alarmed as to why the recruiters are deleting questions they don’t like the look of on LinkedIn? some as simple as ‘what are the employment prospects after completion’ is that not a valid question ?

Table this contract onto any flight deck right now. What would the crew reactions be?

"oh wow great go for it!" or "I despair"?

We know the truth. Disgrace to the profession as I said, we need a clown emoji on this forum, apt in these circumstances.

Time will tell whether this was right or wrong, the first batch of cadets have now started TR albeit via distance learning.

Well, there's one born every minute.

rotorwills

As you have made it clear you dont respond I am curious as to why you actually responded?

A320LGW

Me and my generation didn't have this opportunity, (or at least not all of us), maybe we've been unlucky, or maybe we are not as good as your generation.
Considering that it's not only a job but also a vocation, I would say, there's still somebody trying to get some other chances before throwing in the towel.