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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 10:23
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Anisec - Level

Hi there,

Did anyone hear any insider info from LEVEL in its Austrian branch Anisec?
I am looking for work conditions, environment, benefits... anything apart of what they state here: https://www.career.aero/site/de/job/show/id/2942

Brgds!
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Old 4th Feb 2019, 13:30
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Applied there, too. Any info would be great!!
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 09:07
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ANISEC UPDATE for FOs and CAPTAINS

About ANISEC and INTERPERSONNAL :

If you are job desesperate and if you are ready to spend hundred euros of travels to Hamburg and other places in Germany, ect + lots of accomodations : apply and good luck !
But,
If you are disgusting to pay for these people ANISEC + INTERPERSONAL and other airlines such as Germania (collapsed !) : just forget and apply somewhere else.
1 : Interpersonnal ask you to pay for travel and accomodation 2 days to Hamburg to perform a "basic qualification". This day at Hamburg is for baby pilots leaded by F/Os who think they are god !
2 : If you pass, then Interpersonnal ask you to go to ESSEN, where they are playing with a Fix Base simulator : not A320 certified, for what ? to check if you can perform an IFR pattern inbound or outboud !
3 : if you pass you will have to pay again to fly to Hamburg + hotel for another interview !
4 : If you pass you will have to pay again another fly to Hamburg + hotel for another final interview !

This screening could have been respecfull for pilots by organising a combinaison ALL IN ONE or TWO DAYS screening process at maximum, as most of the airlines are proceeding.
Generaly National Flag carrier or majors can afford long screening process. The process in long, but you are targetting a MAJOR. But what is ANISEC .....with 2xA320 and 2x321 in order ???

By requesting applicants to pay travel arrangement and accomodation AT LEAST 4 TIMES , they are playing with pilots money because this money is not coming from their pocket.
If at least it was proposed a full refund after screening process ?? This shows what will be the employer attitude and how they will treat you. Clearly this airline doesnt need pilots at the moment and does not consider pilots as they should be consider.
Recruiting is one thing, keeping pilots in the airline is another one and is much more difficult.
Interpersonnal could reply "but this is company process" : but Interpersonnal is not the airline. They are just the agency for recruitment (for the moment) and they are finally accepting to become accomplice with the airline in this awfull expensive and unfair process.
We are not a gamblers but airline pilots ! This people are just trying to do business and money on our back !
Could you afford to pay and continue to pay again and again travelling expenses for an hypothetic job ? With no draft of contract, no date of entry, long proccess concerning mostly non type rated guys or F/O cadets.
By the way this basic qualification tests had made me laughting as it was so ridiculous !
For those who are thinking i am frustrated because i failled : i passed ! But i refuse to pay futher more and to play anymore this game !
Guys, lets stop this bargaining games with these awfull people !
If you need some more info i can provide in private [email protected]
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Old 24th Feb 2019, 12:45
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Originally Posted by PGRDAERO View Post
About ANISEC and INTERPERSONNAL :

If you are job desesperate and if you are ready to spend hundred euros of travels to Hamburg and other places in Germany, ect + lots of accomodations : apply and good luck !
But,
If you are disgusting to pay for these people ANISEC + INTERPERSONAL and other airlines such as Germania (collapsed !) : just forget and apply somewhere else.
1 : Interpersonnal ask you to pay for travel and accomodation 2 days to Hamburg to perform a "basic qualification". This day at Hamburg is for baby pilots leaded by F/Os who think they are god !
2 : If you pass, then Interpersonnal ask you to go to ESSEN, where they are playing with a Fix Base simulator : not A320 certified, for what ? to check if you can perform an IFR pattern inbound or outboud !
3 : if you pass you will have to pay again to fly to Hamburg + hotel for another interview !
4 : If you pass you will have to pay again another fly to Hamburg + hotel for another final interview !

This screening could have been respecfull for pilots by organising a combinaison ALL IN ONE or TWO DAYS screening process at maximum, as most of the airlines are proceeding.
Generaly National Flag carrier or majors can afford long screening process. The process in long, but you are targetting a MAJOR. But what is ANISEC .....with 2xA320 and 2x321 in order ???

By requesting applicants to pay travel arrangement and accomodation AT LEAST 4 TIMES , they are playing with pilots money because this money is not coming from their pocket.
If at least it was proposed a full refund after screening process ?? This shows what will be the employer attitude and how they will treat you. Clearly this airline doesnt need pilots at the moment and does not consider pilots as they should be consider.
Recruiting is one thing, keeping pilots in the airline is another one and is much more difficult.
Interpersonnal could reply "but this is company process" : but Interpersonnal is not the airline. They are just the agency for recruitment (for the moment) and they are finally accepting to become accomplice with the airline in this awfull expensive and unfair process.
We are not a gamblers but airline pilots ! This people are just trying to do business and money on our back !
Could you afford to pay and continue to pay again and again travelling expenses for an hypothetic job ? With no draft of contract, no date of entry, long proccess concerning mostly non type rated guys or F/O cadets.
By the way this basic qualification tests had made me laughting as it was so ridiculous !
For those who are thinking i am frustrated because i failled : i passed ! But i refuse to pay futher more and to play anymore this game !
Guys, lets stop this bargaining games with these awfull people !
If you need some more info i can provide in private [email protected]

Couldn't agree more...
Take a look at Ryanair, Wizzair, Easyjet, Norwegian, Middle eastern companies and many others.
They can arrange an assessment that lasts 1-2 days in total without useless astronaut tests where you have to pay hundreds of Euros and then sit there for 8 hours in a classroom to try and memorize figures and colours.
After that they decide whether you are suitable to be a pilot or not. Even if you have been flying commercially for the last decade...
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 08:24
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Originally Posted by Rotate15 View Post
Couldn't agree more...
Take a look at Ryanair, Wizzair, Easyjet, Norwegian, Middle eastern companies and many others.
They can arrange an assessment that lasts 1-2 days in total without useless astronaut tests where you have to pay hundreds of Euros and then sit there for 8 hours in a classroom to try and memorize figures and colours.
After that they decide whether you are suitable to be a pilot or not. Even if you have been flying commercially for the last decade...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these entry-level pilot positions? For those with little or no hours? Why would experienced pilots apply for them?
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 11:27
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They do not need experienced pilots ? Just low hours cadets who are champions in "BQ" tests ?
But they do need, as they need to train you guys with zero hours or low hours !
But by their attitude, they do not deserve experienced pilots at all !
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 17:30
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Originally Posted by Vaero View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these entry-level pilot positions? For those with little or no hours? Why would experienced pilots apply for them?
Some of these airlines offer positions for captains as well as for experienced FOs for a rapid upgrade.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 19:24
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Anyone who passed the CQ recently? Let me know!
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Old 17th Mar 2019, 18:15
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Originally Posted by PGRDAERO View Post
About ANISEC and INTERPERSONNAL :

If you are job desesperate and if you are ready to spend hundred euros of travels to Hamburg and other places in Germany, ect + lots of accomodations : apply and good luck !
But,
If you are disgusting to pay for these people ANISEC + INTERPERSONAL and other airlines such as Germania (collapsed !) : just forget and apply somewhere else.
1 : Interpersonnal ask you to pay for travel and accomodation 2 days to Hamburg to perform a "basic qualification". This day at Hamburg is for baby pilots lead by F/Os who think they are god !
2 : If you pass, then Interpersonnal ask you to go to ESSEN, where they are playing with a Fix Base simulator : not A320 certified, for what ? to check if you can perform an IFR pattern inbound or outboud !
3 : if you pass you will have to pay again to fly to Hamburg + hotel for another interview !
4 : If you pass you will have to pay again another fly to Hamburg + hotel for another final interview !

This screening could have been respecfull for pilots by organising a combinaison ALL IN ONE or TWO DAYS screening process at maximum, as most of the airlines are proceeding.
Generaly National Flag carrier or majors can afford long screening process. The process in long, but you are targetting a MAJOR. But what is ANISEC .....with 2xA320 and 2x321 in order ???

By requesting applicants to pay travel arrangement and accomodation AT LEAST 4 TIMES , they are playing with pilots money because this money is not coming from their pocket.
If at least it was proposed a full refund after screening process ?? This shows what will be the employer attitude and how they will treat you. Clearly this airline doesnt need pilots at the moment and does not consider pilots as they should be consider.
Recruiting is one thing, keeping pilots in the airline is another one and is much more difficult.
Interpersonnal could reply "but this is company process" : but Interpersonnal is not the airline. They are just the agency for recruitment (for the moment) and they are finally accepting to become accomplice with the airline in this awfull expensive and unfair process.
We are not a gamblers but airline pilots ! This people are just trying to do business and money on our back !
Could you afford to pay and continue to pay again and again travelling expenses for an hypothetic job ? With no draft of contract, no date of entry, long proccess concerning mostly non type rated guys or F/O cadets.
By the way this basic qualification tests had made me laughting as it was so ridiculous !
For those who are thinking i am frustrated because i failled : i passed ! But i refuse to pay futher more and to play anymore this game !
Guys, lets stop this bargaining games with these awfull people !
If you need some more info i can provide in private [email protected]
I passed the CQ last week and altough I can see your point I do think the situation is a bit different than you sketch here.

First of all, the selection is divided over three days (so not four). Depending on where you live this can be costly yes but this is different per person so I don't think your statement of hundreds of euro's is applying to everyone (I paid 300 for all three phases combined, I travelled by train and stayed a total of 4 nights in a hotel).

Further more, you want to get a job as a first officer or you dont. If you are fresh out of flight school there are maybe a handful of jobs at the moment (assuming you don't want to immigrate to another continent).

Quick sum up of the three days:
  • 1st Round: Basic Qualification in Hamburg, one day;
  • 2nd round: Simulator Screening in either Hamburg on the FNPTII or Vienna on the A320 Sim (<500hrs or >500hrs/TR respectivily) half a day;
  • 3d round: Corporate Qualification in Hamburg (final interview), one day;
All in all I certainly agree that a selection process of one (or maybe two) days is preferable, but this is just the way they decide to do it (Eurowings, DHL, Condor as well by the way), and as mentioned before, they are recruiting rookie first officers so experienced FO's can apply but don't expect the premium package when you clearly know you are not applying for a flag carrier.
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