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Old 28th Oct 2017, 16:46
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The BA FPP applications weren't in the tens of thousands. At Waterside we were told it was around six thousand for the 2015 intake.
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Old 29th Oct 2017, 20:25
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I've got my first assessment day on the 7th November, just wondering if anyone has been to an assessment day already and can tell me how the BA programme assessment differs from the whitetail assessment?
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Old 31st Oct 2017, 19:57
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Just filling out an application. What sort of level is the initial numeracy test?

Anyone got any ideas of starting salary? Presumably there is no training bond repayment like under FPP so I'd hope the basic has gone up if we're going to pay back a loan/bank of mum and dad?!

Also just noticed it now says it closes for applications on 6 Nov for anyone else thinking about it. It didn't say this before, so presumably they've still got enough applicants despite the rubbish finances.
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 10:26
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The intial numeracy was 25 questions in 15 minutes and I would say the level of questions was the same as the numeracy test you have to do at the assessment day (if you have ever done this), but you have a calculator. You also have to read info from a table.

If you haven’t done the test at the assessment day it’s unit conversion, how long it takes to cover set distance given a speed etc.
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 15:07
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What FTO offers this?
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Old 1st Nov 2017, 15:45
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Thanks very much. No, I've not done an assessment day before but been practising using Skytest. Some of their questions involve formulas that I've long since forgotten, so that was my concern. I'll focus on the numeracy side of things.
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One that caught me by surprise was the area of a triangle, which is not hard but just wasn’t 100% on the formula.

Just to note it does look like 6th Nov is deadline and if you get put through to L3 it looks like the deadline is the same to fill details on there. Although not sure how it works if you submit to BA on the 6th and then have to do the BA online tests.

Currently Day 1 dates are 3rd Nov or 7th Nov with Day 2 planned for 9th Nov if successful.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 12:11
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How long did it take to get put through to l3?
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 15:37
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How long did it take to get put through to l3?
About 2 days for me
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 17:56
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How long did it take to get put through to l3?
About 5 days for me. Applied on the 21st and got a response on the 26th.

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Iíve received email yesterday with offer dates for assessment this fri or next Tuesday. Impossible for me to get there tomorrow & Tuesday difficult to! Does anyone know if more dates will be released? Thanks.
Probably. If the closing date is November 6th I doubt the final assessment would be the 7th.
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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 20:33
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Hi guys,


Just completed my application. Got an email to complete online tests.
What type of questions at initial assessments on numerical reasoning? Which were the hardest type? Any help appreciated. All the best.
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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 21:01
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Attended stage 1 today and they provided some more information on the scheme. There will be assessments continuing through to December, and if needed, January and February. BA are looking to recruit 100 cadets but no word on whether the MPL and ATPL routes will have caps. The MPL route does require a higher standard all round, but you will be offered the ATPL if you fall just short. Stage 2 is group exercises and an interview with L3. Stage 3 is another round of group exercises, 2:1 interview and a capacity assessment conducted by BA.

I received an email to confirm my result for the day at 17:05, an hour and a half after completing the assessments. The day consists of a mental maths test and a verbal reasoning test, followed by a numerical reasoning test and PILAPT.

My tips for anyone looking for advice:
  • Mental Maths: 25 multiple choice questions in 12 minutes. Practice on the CEBGlobal page they email you. Learn shortcuts to avoid having to work out the whole answer. Time is a real constraint for this test.
  • Verbal Resoning: Practice on CEBGlobal. 36 questions in 20 minutes. Time wasn't an issue. Didn't find this particularly difficult. Involves reading some information and answering questions based off the information given.
  • Numerical Reasoning: Very much identicle to LatestPilotJobs(LPJ )maths test but 15 questions in 15 minutes. No calculator.
  • PILAPT: Identicle to LPJ. Found myself extremely prepared.

I can post my average scores from LPJ if anyone is interest to try and gauge difficulty of the PILAPT tests.

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Old 3rd Nov 2017, 22:27
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Did they give any indication when the first of those 100 cadets will be starting at BA Dave?
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 09:12
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Originally Posted by high_fly View Post
Hi guys,


Just completed my application. Got an email to complete online tests.
What type of questions at initial assessments on numerical reasoning? Which were the hardest type? Any help appreciated. All the best.
I can't remember everything but it is GCSE level and includes topics such as exchange rates, bodmas, solving equations, ratios, basic trigonometry, fractions, percentages.



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Did they give any indication when the first of those 100 cadets will be starting at BA Dave?
First start date for training is March 2018. Assuming the plan on the L3 website is accurate, training will take 18 months so my guess is that cadets will be flying in roughly September 2019.
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 15:14
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Anyone who went to stage 1 application process, what was everyone wearing? Smart casual, suit, normal casual...?
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 18:30
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inital BA

Thanks Dave for your reply, so there is only Maths test of 25 questions in 15 min at initial stage consist of above, Do you know if Any verbal reasoning test at initial stage too?

Best of luck Mate.
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 20:29
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I'm surprised that they split the maths/aptitude tests and group exercises/interview over two assessment days, unless they are charging for those days separately. From what I know, the maths test takes about twenty minutes, followed by the aptitude tests which can't be any more than an hour. Can't see the reasoning tests taking any more than a couple of hours combined. Group exercises I reckon should be about an hour maximum too.

Could easily put that into a morning followed by an afternoon of interviews.
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 20:35
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Are the questions in the mental maths test identical to the CEGlobal numerical reasoning test or slightly easier (like the maths test you do online for the application?)
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 00:19
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Because only stage 2 (maths/assessments) are charged for. By splitting them, you can get lots of people paying through that stage of assessments. If they were grouped together, it would take up far more personnel time to put that many people through.

They would have made £12000 alone on a stage 2 assessment day because they can have 4 slots of 10 people, paying £295 each.
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 09:37
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Do they charge 295 regardless of whether you make it to the interview bit (Stage 3)? 295 to take a maths test is pure profiteering on L3's part. It would appear that they and BA have lost all shame on that front.

I was at PCL yesterday but nobody from BA Recruitment was there (except a few line pilots who were mainly representing the schools). I expect they didn't have the guts to face a slew of questions asking about finances....

L3 didn't have much info to add that isn't online although tbh, once they confirmed there is no financial support available, I kind of lost interest. They're not even pushing BBVA or other loan products any more. If you haven't got access to 100,000+ in cash or the ability to re-mortgage a property off your (your parents) own back then the general message is that training at one of the "Big 3" schools isn't for you.
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