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Are the tests people referring to the online assessment immediately post submission of the application? Or actually in person assessment?
If the latter, can anyone shed any light on what is included in the online assessment.
If the latter, can anyone shed any light on what is included in the online assessment.
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Hi qbigglesq
A BA co-pilot showed me the different basic pays between FPP and Self Sponsored Pilot (SSP) back in 2016
I believe that Short Haul Co-pilots from FPP were on £24,719 basic and SSP were on £35,926 in their first year and obviously the basic pay increases each year.
Hope this helps as a guide, obviously can't say for certain
A BA co-pilot showed me the different basic pays between FPP and Self Sponsored Pilot (SSP) back in 2016
I believe that Short Haul Co-pilots from FPP were on £24,719 basic and SSP were on £35,926 in their first year and obviously the basic pay increases each year.
Hope this helps as a guide, obviously can't say for certain
So borrowing;
£115k for training
£30k for living costs over 18 months of training.
You're going to be paying back the best part of £1500 a month... with a salary of only 2500 a month before tax?
Have I missed something...
30K for 18 months living costs?
You don’t pay any bills except for food and transport. Unless you are literally being driven to the school in a motorcade you should be fine
I jest, clearly, but you honestly won’t spend a third of that if you’re even moderately careful. If you try it can be done for about 6K.
You don’t pay any bills except for food and transport. Unless you are literally being driven to the school in a motorcade you should be fine
I jest, clearly, but you honestly won’t spend a third of that if you’re even moderately careful. If you try it can be done for about 6K.
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30K for 18 months living costs?
You don’t pay any bills except for food and transport. Unless you are literally being driven to the school in a motorcade you should be fine
I jest, clearly, but you honestly won’t spend a third of that if you’re even moderately careful. If you try it can be done for about 6K.
You don’t pay any bills except for food and transport. Unless you are literally being driven to the school in a motorcade you should be fine
I jest, clearly, but you honestly won’t spend a third of that if you’re even moderately careful. If you try it can be done for about 6K.
Speedy, what does flying pay tally up to on average?
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Hello all,
I completed my app on the 20th and have done the SJT and Maths online assesements so far. Has anyone else had to wait for a couple of days until they receive the third online assessment?
Cheers!
I completed my app on the 20th and have done the SJT and Maths online assesements so far. Has anyone else had to wait for a couple of days until they receive the third online assessment?
Cheers!
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Hi Ocanuck! I submitted on the 20th Nov and have completed my SJT and maths test. Still haven't heard anything back as of yet. Also, as far as I'm aware there is no third online assessment. The next stage for us is a technical assessment day at Dibden Manor.
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It depends how much you work (we moved back to an hourly rate rather than a fixed monthly rate earlier this year). Typically flight pay will be around £600-£700 per month on an average month though.
But we also get other Time away from Base payments etc too. An approximate for that is £4 for every hour you are away from base from report until clear at the end of a trip.
So, in addition to salary, an FO at BA on the A32N fleet working full time can expect to earn an additional £1500 per month.
After tax, average earnings for a full time FO starting out year 1 on the FPP is between £2700 and £3000 per month. This excludes the bond repayment, which is an extra £1000 per month. I'm reliably informed that with the new programme the basic salary will be higher to offset the absence of a bond (i.e. the salary scales will be inflated by approximately £12,000 per year).
The salary increases by approximately £5k - £6k per year for the first seven years on the current FPP programme until it catches up with the existing FO pay scales. And typically the scales themselves are all inflated each year by a nominal percentage to offset inflation, so essentially it's two pay rises per year.
But we also get other Time away from Base payments etc too. An approximate for that is £4 for every hour you are away from base from report until clear at the end of a trip.
So, in addition to salary, an FO at BA on the A32N fleet working full time can expect to earn an additional £1500 per month.
After tax, average earnings for a full time FO starting out year 1 on the FPP is between £2700 and £3000 per month. This excludes the bond repayment, which is an extra £1000 per month. I'm reliably informed that with the new programme the basic salary will be higher to offset the absence of a bond (i.e. the salary scales will be inflated by approximately £12,000 per year).
The salary increases by approximately £5k - £6k per year for the first seven years on the current FPP programme until it catches up with the existing FO pay scales. And typically the scales themselves are all inflated each year by a nominal percentage to offset inflation, so essentially it's two pay rises per year.
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Other news that may be of interest to some is that BA is considering a new financially sponsored cadet programme in addition to the current new cadet programme. Nothing concrete in terms of a plan, but it's definitely being discussed.
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I completed the maths test on the 15th Nov, and heard back yesterday evening.
Hope this helps
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Hope this happens, but i'll believe it when I see it with the current way the airline is being run. An unsponsored scheme was hopefully no suprise to many, when BA has been looking to cut costs in multiple areas over the past year.
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Where did you hear this from if you don't mind me asking.
One or two in management dropped hints on the company yammer site about future sponsorship/sponsored schemes in response to concerns expressed there about the recently announced L3 scheme....but certainly all I saw they were vague comments along the lines of "looking at things", maybe there is something concrete being planned...maybe.
I have to say I would agree with planesandthings observation and I certainly wouldn't make plans or delay plans on the assumption that BA will definitely be offering some sponsorship in the near future....but I would like to be pleasantly surprised.
I have to say I would agree with planesandthings observation and I certainly wouldn't make plans or delay plans on the assumption that BA will definitely be offering some sponsorship in the near future....but I would like to be pleasantly surprised.
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It's as Wiggy says. I wouldn't make plans based on it either, but the suggestion was that more news will be available by the end of the year, which isn't all that far away now. It will be interesting to see what any new scheme comes along, if indeed any new scheme does come along. I am quietly confident that this is being seriously looked at though. The right people are saying the right things.
Financially it doesn't make a lot of difference to BA as far as I can see. Don't offer a sponsorship and pay a higher joining salary, or offer a sponsorship and pay a lower joining salary. It more or less balances out.
Financially it doesn't make a lot of difference to BA as far as I can see. Don't offer a sponsorship and pay a higher joining salary, or offer a sponsorship and pay a lower joining salary. It more or less balances out.
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I heard from a "well placed source" that the current program is partly a swift interim measure because it takes so long to get a "proper" course like FPP with financial backing agreed internally.
One novel concern is that there will be people who pass the assessments on the current "cadet" program and start without really doing the maths on where they are going to source every bit of approx £130k from (L3 course cost plus typical cost of living). No-one wants to do a hardcore "credit check" on successful cadet applicants - and yet no-one wants people to spend £90k on the course and then be unable to complete when anticipated if there is a wobble in their funding. Really bad for everyone - and more of a potential PR problem for BA than with other programs.
I'm told it's highly likely a FPP-like program will be announced before long.
But in the meantime: if you've got £130k down the back of the sofa, good luck to you!
One novel concern is that there will be people who pass the assessments on the current "cadet" program and start without really doing the maths on where they are going to source every bit of approx £130k from (L3 course cost plus typical cost of living). No-one wants to do a hardcore "credit check" on successful cadet applicants - and yet no-one wants people to spend £90k on the course and then be unable to complete when anticipated if there is a wobble in their funding. Really bad for everyone - and more of a potential PR problem for BA than with other programs.
I'm told it's highly likely a FPP-like program will be announced before long.
But in the meantime: if you've got £130k down the back of the sofa, good luck to you!