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Originally Posted by Lockheed_Blackbird
you pay almost nothing, you have no loan to take so no risk.
Direct access to a major airline with great salary and benefits.
Direct access to a major airline with great salary and benefits.
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...but only open to German/Swiss citizens. Aer Lingus is not restricted to Irish nationals.
PLEASE check before saying totally wrong things!!!
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Originally Posted by Lockheed_Blackbird
No, it's open to all EU citizens.
PLEASE check before saying totally wrong things!!!
PLEASE check before saying totally wrong things!!!
Anyway, back to easyJet...
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Direct access to a major airline with great salary and benefits.
Whose contracts are far worse than easyJets in Germany.
As you are a French person who is trying to apply to a BA cadets scheme and also this easyJet scheme, I'd suggest not trying to be a know it all and letting the topic get back to what it is here for.
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A New Twist
easyJet launches new initiative to increase recruitment of female pilots - Pilot Career News
If I'm interpreting this correctly, for women it turns into something that rivals the BA FPP yet if you're a bloke you still need to be rich/have rich family. How on earth can that possibly be right?
The airline will also be offering ten places for women each year on the easyJet pilot training programme with the around £100,000 training loan underwritten by easyJet.
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It isn't right. Many of us are against it. We think the most talented should get through not just those who can afford it or were born female. I for one think it's a disgrace.
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Maybe they are going to offer a similar deal for males?
If not then I agree, it's not right. Some form of positive discrimination for interview slots would be controversial but valid given the ridiculous male/female ratio amongst pilots, but the barriers to female vs male entry into the profession are not financial.
Would such open bias possibly even violate discrimination law?
If not then I agree, it's not right. Some form of positive discrimination for interview slots would be controversial but valid given the ridiculous male/female ratio amongst pilots, but the barriers to female vs male entry into the profession are not financial.
Would such open bias possibly even violate discrimination law?
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As you are a French person who is trying to apply to a BA cadets scheme and also this easyJet scheme, I'd suggest not trying to be a know it all and letting the topic get back to what it is here for.
And yes you have to be fluent in german, but no it does not restrict it to german or swiss nationals.
Just take the example of SWISS, most of the cadets are not from Switzerland...
You can just work hard on your german and you'll be all ok.
Agree on one point: go back to EZY!
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It's all good them planning to underwrite loans for a while now, but it's no good on the male applicants who will have to put their parents' property at risk in order to achieve their dreams.
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How is this allowed? I know it's been done with the best of intentions but surely it must violate employment discrimination laws.
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The proportion of ladies going through professional training with us in the modular system is already around 15% and growing, I would think that 12% is a target Easyjet can easily achieve, in fact it probably represents the proportion already under training. The suggestion that Easyjet will underwrite the loans (even if it is restricted to female recruits) doesn't affect the fact that female pilots will have to take out the same loans as the men and make the same repayments. It only makes a difference if the pilots either can't get a job or lose their position with Easyjet once hired, in which case Easy may have to pay off the loans. In that scenario Easy have some control over who they lay off and who they hire. In addition it seems to me that the practicalities of this proposal mean that Easy will either underwrite the loans when the pilots are hired (that is to say once licence training is complete), in which case the female pilots will presumably be taking out new loans at that point, or Easyjet will be nominating future female employees before the start of their training at the point when the initial loans are taken out, which likely restricts this to the MPL scheme. It will be interesting to see how this develops in practice.
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I think it will almost certainly by restricted to the MPL scheme, though Easyjet has started underwriting all loans for "CTC Whitetail" trainees who need to pay for an Easy T/R post-CTC.
That said, the fact that it looks to be open to women regardless of financial position (except a decent credit rating) but only to well-off men is still wrong even if all candidates owe the same amount after completing their MPL training.
You'd think a company which made a £450m post-tax profit with over £1.4bn in retained earnings would be able to guarantee loans for all of it's trainees...
That said, the fact that it looks to be open to women regardless of financial position (except a decent credit rating) but only to well-off men is still wrong even if all candidates owe the same amount after completing their MPL training.
You'd think a company which made a £450m post-tax profit with over £1.4bn in retained earnings would be able to guarantee loans for all of it's trainees...
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Possibly not unrelated to suggestions that BBVA will be pulling out of the pilot loans market early next year, the integrated programs rely heavily on loans being available. Having to secure a loan for a type rating through mortgage equity on top of the £100K secured or so for initial training would stretch a lot of people. In which case it is a positive step back to the days when a 'bond' meant a debt to the employer.
