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LVL CHG..
Firstly, well done I wish you every success for your future career.
Do you mind if I ask what experience you have please? Also, did you progress past the online numerical managerial and verbal reasoning tests?
Anyone else who has been rejected told of the test results if they did them.I think this info' will be helpful and constructive for those who wish to try again in the future.
My feeling is that you need to apply as early as possible and if offered the online tests, to complete as soon as possible! I did apply but I think I left it to long before completing the process....
Firstly, well done I wish you every success for your future career.
Do you mind if I ask what experience you have please? Also, did you progress past the online numerical managerial and verbal reasoning tests?
Anyone else who has been rejected told of the test results if they did them.I think this info' will be helpful and constructive for those who wish to try again in the future.
My feeling is that you need to apply as early as possible and if offered the online tests, to complete as soon as possible! I did apply but I think I left it to long before completing the process....
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First of all I'll add my sincere congratulations to LVL_CHG on achieving a milestone in their journey to the career that they want.
I seem to remember reading a post that LVL_CHG made elsewhere recently that they have been working as cabin crew for an airline before getting rewarded for their loyalty to the company.
I have also heard from a few sources that Jet2 do like to hire internally and give preference to internal applicants (fair enough) and we've recently seen Thomson recruit cadets exclusively from internal applicants so it's not a new thing.
So it seems that a little bit of lateral thinking and hard work/ loyalty by LVL_CHG getting their name and face known around the company and building a decent reputation has paid dividends for them which is fantastic.
I don't know whether internal applicants went through the whole recruitment process with online tests etc or whether they were given a free pass straight through to interview and I'm sure Jet2 would rather LVL_CHG didn't divulge that information.
Either way good luck to LVL_CHG.
I seem to remember reading a post that LVL_CHG made elsewhere recently that they have been working as cabin crew for an airline before getting rewarded for their loyalty to the company.
I have also heard from a few sources that Jet2 do like to hire internally and give preference to internal applicants (fair enough) and we've recently seen Thomson recruit cadets exclusively from internal applicants so it's not a new thing.
So it seems that a little bit of lateral thinking and hard work/ loyalty by LVL_CHG getting their name and face known around the company and building a decent reputation has paid dividends for them which is fantastic.
I don't know whether internal applicants went through the whole recruitment process with online tests etc or whether they were given a free pass straight through to interview and I'm sure Jet2 would rather LVL_CHG didn't divulge that information.
Either way good luck to LVL_CHG.
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I really want to do the apprentice pilot program with Jet2 but still won't let me apply on line. I don't know if it's true or not but I have been told if you want to do the program you need to hold a frozen ATPL. If not what will the tests be like and surly they will asks for at least some GCSEs which I don't have ense why I can't train with CTC plus the cost of training aswell with CTC. Sometimes I think airlines and flight training colleges and program's demand too much and I'm slowly giving up on my dream of being an airline pilot.
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How can you really want to do this programme when you don't even know what the requirements are!?. Yes, you need a frozen atpl and of course you need GCSE's. Demanding people have GCSE's is not asking much at all and is definitely necessary. If you'd always wanted to be an airline pilot then you should have realised you needed GCSE's.
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Dylan McTurk; if you really want to be a pilot then I'd strongly advise you to get some GCSEs and A-Levels. These are absolutely necessary as the minimum requirements because training to be an airline pilot is very demanding. Those who are unable to acquire at least good GCSEs will likely struggle with fATPL training; both in terms of the technical difficulty and workload.
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Assuming that Dylan has made a genuine post and is not a wind up troll I will try to provide a balanced answer. There is absolutely no requirement for GCSEs or A Levels to study for the ATPL written exams. You can be issued a CPL on your 18th birthday, you need to have passed all 14 written exams before starting the CPL course and most people do not have their A levels cracked out before their 18th birthday, make no mistake the exams are far from easy but GCSEs or A levels are no indication of sufficient intellect to pass them.
G-FORC3 has been talented and fortunate enough to be offered a place on the BA Future Pilot Programme for which they and the other successful candidates have my sincere congratulations. Like most ab-initio cadetships the BA course does require applicants to have certain academic qualifications and many integrated training providers will try to dictate that certain academic qualifications are necessary which is complete rubbish, some even equate the theory requirements to degree level study which is laughable.
I notice the use of the phrase 'frozen ATPL' or 'fATPL' which is misleading as no such qualification exists, in the days before EASA it was a slang term (not recognised by CAA) to indicate that a pilot had passed the 14 written exams and skills test for CPL and MEIR but they did not have the flying hour requirements for issue of an ATPL. Try telling any professional operator that you have or are working towards a frozen ATPL then you will very soon be talking to their back, after training you will have a CPL with Single Pilot MEIR, no more, no less, unless of course you study for the award of an MPL.
The Jet2 apprenticeship is different from the ab-initio cadetships in that it requires the applicant to have already completed CPL and MEIR training (I can't remember any specific GCSE or A Level requirements) before applying whereas ab-initio cadetships can be awarded to someone with zero hours and do require GCSE and/ or A Levels. So the Jet2 apprenticeship offers some hope to those that have completed training at their own expense and are looking for an elusive flying career with a decent airline.
Good luck G-FORC3 and all those accepted onto the BA course
G-FORC3 has been talented and fortunate enough to be offered a place on the BA Future Pilot Programme for which they and the other successful candidates have my sincere congratulations. Like most ab-initio cadetships the BA course does require applicants to have certain academic qualifications and many integrated training providers will try to dictate that certain academic qualifications are necessary which is complete rubbish, some even equate the theory requirements to degree level study which is laughable.
I notice the use of the phrase 'frozen ATPL' or 'fATPL' which is misleading as no such qualification exists, in the days before EASA it was a slang term (not recognised by CAA) to indicate that a pilot had passed the 14 written exams and skills test for CPL and MEIR but they did not have the flying hour requirements for issue of an ATPL. Try telling any professional operator that you have or are working towards a frozen ATPL then you will very soon be talking to their back, after training you will have a CPL with Single Pilot MEIR, no more, no less, unless of course you study for the award of an MPL.
The Jet2 apprenticeship is different from the ab-initio cadetships in that it requires the applicant to have already completed CPL and MEIR training (I can't remember any specific GCSE or A Level requirements) before applying whereas ab-initio cadetships can be awarded to someone with zero hours and do require GCSE and/ or A Levels. So the Jet2 apprenticeship offers some hope to those that have completed training at their own expense and are looking for an elusive flying career with a decent airline.
Good luck G-FORC3 and all those accepted onto the BA course
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Try telling any professional operator that you have or are working towards a frozen ATPL then you will very soon be talking to their back,
"A UK EASA ATPL (or Frozen ATPL) with UK EASA Class 1 medical certificate"
http://www.monarch.co.uk/jobs/flight-deck
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Good spot GL, however by 'operator' I mean pilot (should have made that clearer my apologies) and I doubt that a pilot wrote the job spec, probably written by an HR type who can be excused for their naivety.
If you can find an official EASA document that refers to a 'frozen ATPL' then you're looking harder than me (not difficult) but the fact remains that no pilot will ever possess a licence which has 'Frozen ATPL' written at the top of it, they wil have either a CPL with a number of ratings endorsed on it or a full ATPL.
The term 'Frozen ATPL' is a slang term that has become common parlance..........innitt!!!!!!!
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If you can find an official EASA document that refers to a 'frozen ATPL' then you're looking harder than me (not difficult) but the fact remains that no pilot will ever possess a licence which has 'Frozen ATPL' written at the top of it, they wil have either a CPL with a number of ratings endorsed on it or a full ATPL.
The term 'Frozen ATPL' is a slang term that has become common parlance..........innitt!!!!!!!
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Just goes to show how common the slang phrase has become, it'll be in the Oxford English dictionary next. Maybe if enough people use it often enough then EASA will formally adopt it.
But when you've reached the heights of CP (CO) then I guess you can call it what you want.
Nice to be on speaking terms with the 'grown ups' I suppose (you name dropper you)
Apologies to the mods for the thread drift!!!!!
But when you've reached the heights of CP (CO) then I guess you can call it what you want.
Nice to be on speaking terms with the 'grown ups' I suppose (you name dropper you)
Apologies to the mods for the thread drift!!!!!
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I think the term "fATPL" is an elegant solution to the otherwise long-winded expression of the same qualifications. Why not adopt such an acronym if it improves the ability of pilots to express their qualifications succinctly? This is probably why the term has gained so much popularity. Thanks for your comments by the way mick 
It's true that there's no legal requirement for a person to have GCSEs and/or A-Levels in order to obtain an ATPL. But I'd be astonished if anyone actually held an ATPL who did not have the ability to obtain GCSEs (or their equivalents). And - hypothetically speaking - if I were a financial institution who had been asked to fund their training, I'd have serious reservations in the absence of a track record of them having sat exams at a reasonable level.
That said, I'm not sure I see the logic in Jet2's approach if the candidates they are looking for need to already have an fATPL? That should probably supercede the requirement for GCSEs; in the same way a Degree in maths will always supercede the requirement for an A-Level in it. However, I remain open-minded and will continue to follow this topic with interest.
It's true that there's no legal requirement for a person to have GCSEs and/or A-Levels in order to obtain an ATPL. But I'd be astonished if anyone actually held an ATPL who did not have the ability to obtain GCSEs (or their equivalents). And - hypothetically speaking - if I were a financial institution who had been asked to fund their training, I'd have serious reservations in the absence of a track record of them having sat exams at a reasonable level.
That said, I'm not sure I see the logic in Jet2's approach if the candidates they are looking for need to already have an fATPL? That should probably supercede the requirement for GCSEs; in the same way a Degree in maths will always supercede the requirement for an A-Level in it. However, I remain open-minded and will continue to follow this topic with interest.
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At the moment they're not accepting applications for apprentices but when they do open up the applications again they will put a notification on their dedicated careers website. Just a case of keeping an eye on the careers site.
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Possible reopening of jet2 pilot apprentice scheme
Hi all. I follow jet2 on LinkedIn and they have today posted that they are reopening this. How I wish I had my fatpl so that I could apply. Getting to spend all winter in leeds( where I currently live) for a major airline would be really convenient.
Check it out for yourselves. I just thought a heads up may be good
Check it out for yourselves. I just thought a heads up may be good
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Salary?
Hi,
Does anybody have an idea of what the salary is during the ground position phase of this scheme? The website says "excellent" but some feedback of what that might be would be appreciated.
Good opportunity this, but still have to feed the family and pay the mortgage.
Thanks
Does anybody have an idea of what the salary is during the ground position phase of this scheme? The website says "excellent" but some feedback of what that might be would be appreciated.
Good opportunity this, but still have to feed the family and pay the mortgage.
Thanks
