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Old 2nd Feb 2009, 23:39
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A320 first officer vacancies?

Hi guys,

Anybody has an idea or knows about vacancies on the A320?
I am type rated with no hours on the A320.
Just 300 hours on piston engines.
UK/CAA CPL/IR licence with frozen ATPL
I would appreciate any help.

Thanks

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 05:55
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Whats your total time?
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 06:45
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 06:58
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Narwhal,

What jobs were available when you did your type rating course? What's your total time?

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 09:05
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Did you pay for your TR?
 
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Did you pay for your TR?
And you've never paid for any training then?
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 11:54
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Chilli Corneto, please don't think you are in any position whatsoever to judge how someone goes about their training - From the CTC Wings thread, I know that you have not even started your professional training! Highly underqualified to make any such judgement - pass your ATPL exams, get all the licences and ratings, then you might be in a better position, based on some actual valid experience, to comment. Not so long ago you posted that you were "still very new to the industry" and apologised for making incorrect assumptions.

Gulf Air and Etihad are both looking for rated Airbus guys, although both I think are specifying time on type. Gulf Air might look at you if you have a significant amoun of total time - something in the region of 2000hrs. Air Arabia are also looking at present. Aer Lingus recently advertised for pilots, although selection is now closed. A few to pursue there.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 11:58
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I know some in Asia - give me a shout if anyone is interested...

Cheers all,

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 13:00
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Chilli Corneto, please don't think you are in any position whatsoever to judge how someone goes about their training - From the CTC Wings thread, I know that you have not even started your professional training! Highly underqualified to make any such judgement - pass your ATPL exams, get all the licences and ratings, then you might be in a better position, based on some actual valid experience, to comment. Not so long ago you posted that you were "still very new to the industry" and apologised for making incorrect assumptions.
PAJ I'm still entitled to my opinion despite my level of experience or progress through training. I'm sure I wouldn't be the only person to cringe hearing someone pay for a type rating with not guarantee of a job at the end of. Granted I can't say I would be guaranteed a job when I finish my training but nobody is going to be able to answer that!

Being "new to the industry" does not mean every assumption I make will be incorrect so I don't really appreciate you painting me as someone who knows all about the industry. I may have made a couple of mis-judgements but I can assure you I have looked into every area of training with a fine tooth comb! Including the dangers of self funded type ratings and the can of worms that is paying for line training. Again just becuase I haven't experienced the professional training personally does not mean I do not know what is involved.

I'll drop the matter now and look forward to more qualified replies!
 
Old 3rd Feb 2009, 13:43
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CC, the initial question was, does anybody know whether there are any opportunities for TR'd A320 guys with no hours on type. Your response was to come back and clearly imply that paying for a TR was the wrong decision to have made. What I struggle with is where the constructive advice sought is in your post! What use is 'cringing' about the fact that the TR has already been paid for, apart from just be-littling a fellow pilot. There are not many other professions out there where a forum such as this would work, and that is testament to the fact that us pilots tend to look out for each other. You are by no means unique in having an opinion about paying for line training/TRs (I have my own opinions too) but in a thread like this, I just think you have been plain insenstivive, and quite frankly useless! Your lack of experience/ qualifications aside, perhaps your opinions would be better placed in another more suitable thread where a debate on the subject might actually be useful or constructive!
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 13:53
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Paj,

Even if CC has only just embarked (or not even started) his/her professional training at least they know purchasing your own TR without any significant (1000+) hrs on type is a bad thing. Looks to me if they've got one of the major issues solved! The next is Gen Nav.

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 14:07
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hey

a320 type rated with hours on type, seeking job at the moment. if anyone knows of any. willing to go anywhere in the world, oxford integrated with type rating at GCAT gatwick.

550hrs total
368 on type

many thanks guys
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 14:26
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Hi Narwhal,
You should try to contact Turkish airlines like Onurair.
It seems they hired A320 type rated pilot few months ago with low hours on type (and low hours TT).
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 14:28
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You can join the queue behind this guy..............he's similar situation and been looking since late last year. Some tips in this thread you might be able to follow up though;

http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...ng-320-fo.html
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 14:41
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Did you pay for your TR?
Chilli,
As a potential CTC Wings cadet I'd hardly say you're in any position to be criticising anyone on the topic of buying their way in. You might want to look a bit closer to home first.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 15:13
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hey. any ideas on how to apply to onur air.i tried their website but it seems to be down and the email address on ppjn doesnt seem to be in service.


thanks guys
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 15:13
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James D, don't worry about people that think it's shameful to pay for a TR.

I know many low hour pilots that have payed for their own type rating and currently, there are employed in great companies (737 in Europe). Some of them are Senior FO now.

Some people wait, wait and wait without a job and some other pay to have the chance to start their career. That's life.
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No your not allowed to do that, Going Modular then paying for a rating and even hours on type, god forbid. You become a low life who will never have sex with another human being again and bits of you might well drop off and often do.

Then again if you go Oxford or CTC, or for that case any Integrated, not only do you get offered a job with a big airline, you get a gold plated license and a brand new shiny Audi, (it used to be a BMW, but as Top Gear pointed out, Audi's are now driven by 's), if you get to Ryanair, like lots of integrated students do, not only have you had the privilege of paying lots more money for a fATPL, but you also have the privilege of paying out for a TR, great! And lets us not forget, 'this is not just a fATPL its a INTERGRATED fATPL'.

Or so I am told.............

The reality of course is quite different, People will do whatever helps them get a job, end of. Moaning that it is wrong, well that does not get you anywhere. But we can all moan and bitch, just look at the thread regarding a young 777 FO.
The airline industry does not owe you anything, so people will pay for ratings and hours on type, heck at the moment it is cheaper to get 500 hours on a 737NG, very new ones at that, than 500 hours in a old C172.

Not saying its right, but lets keep it real.
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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 17:13
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All i can say is HA!

all thinking of paying for a TR take note! It doesnt work!

Well done CC - its good to know there are some new pilots coming through with abit of sense!

as for this comment

apart from just be-littling a fellow pilot
I would never call anyone who has payed for a TR/line training a fellow pilot. they are pay-to-fly wanabe's.

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Old 3rd Feb 2009, 18:17
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So what about Ryanair? Are their First officers, who have paid for their type ratings pay to fly wannabe's also.

Sometimes there is no other way but to pay...

Or do some proper flying like Air taxi, FI, turboprops etc etc. thought I would add that before we start going over the same topics.
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