Bad Decision

[Callsign Kilo]

I can't help suspecting that this is some sort of wind up, however if it isn't you should be ashamed of yourself.

I suddenly realised how depressing it was sitting in the a/c I was in and wishing I had waited for a job with a jet a/c.

In my opinion you have no passion for 'flying.' Maybe flying an older, conventional aircraft of around 6 tonne is too much like hard work for you? It now seems a far cry from all the glossy posters of the modern flight decks onboard the Boeings and 'Buses that were pinned to the walls at your integrated school. Maybe it doesn't live up to how you planned to discuss your new career to your mates or some bird you met down the local cattle market?

By the way mate, I fly the NG and it isn't all that. I often envy those who work in the type of operation that you find yourself. So stop sounding like a complete dick head and relish what you have. Flying isn't about monitoring an autoflight system!

[flying macaco]

Perhaps the only bad decision was made by your employer.

[leeds 65]

Snobbery

That is the issue here.And that comes from the advertising propaganda and spin merchants from the various flight schools.

The problem is that all the young potential pilots believe in it 100% and toodle home and go out drinking with there mates on a saturday stating='guess what guys im going to be a 747 pilot with BA in 15 months,its always been my dream'.There poor parents/guardians ,who know nothing about aviation,also believe the marketing hype and fake professionalism and care for the customer bolix on show in abundance at open days!!!The attitude enstilled is very much='if i dont get a jet job i have failed and my friends and family will look down on me'.

There are an awful lot of people who are blinded by perception - false perception.Many students want to be pilots to wear a uniform and pose(260 quid please!),stay in 5 star beach resorts for a week shagging babes and getting full pay(maybe airforce 1 pilots in the fifties!) etc etc,they dont think of reality(ie walkarounds in blizzards at 5 in the mornin!)

Basically there are people who believe that i live a life exactly like one Leonardo di Caprio in the film 'Catch me if you can'!!!

ehhh reality check!Dont give a **** what people think.flying is flying.when i say to people im a co.pilot they respond='oh really,you dont actually fly the plane though do you?' !

What happens after this job.lets say you land a job with a low cost carrier on a medium jet.will you be ashamed.scared people will hound you for not flying long haul for BA?

Your in a very good position.enjoy your flying and dont live your life according to what others think,thats fine in school,naive in adulthood.

good luck i wish you well

[GeorgEGNT]

I'll swap with you if you're soooo unhappy and thousands more will agree. You really need to stop moaning about not flying big jets for your first job, in the industry that it is today. The dream is to fly aircraft and it sounds like you've found an absolute result to start your career off. I hope you havent just paid 60k to train for the big jets and the 'glamour of the uniform'.

Sorry if any of my points are invalid or stupid, afterall I'm just a silly dreaming wannabe.

[Frankly Mr Shankly]

Pi$$ taker.

[cessnagirl]

"I suddenly realised how depressing it was sitting in the a/c I was in and wishing I had waited for a job with a jet a/c."

Your a lucky guy. I'd be jumping for joy if I had your job as would others on this forum. There many pilots in and out of the job centre, flipping burgers in rotten ronnies etc and those of us behind desks. I understand that it may not be what you want right now, but from my own personal experience, a job is what YOU make of it.

I currently work in flight ops and the experience I have gained is invaluable and not one day has gone by where I haven't learned or gained something which will stand to me in the near future when I do get a flying job. Its great to be able to keep your hand in the industry and most of your ATPL knowledge current. All these jobs in airline ops and on smaller aircraft will stand to job seekers when things pick up.

Loose that attitude and congratulate yourself for all your hard work and for beating off competition to get your current job. Your in a great position to develop good handling skills, learn about airline operations and gain valuable experience. This is your first job and there will be greater opportunities out there for you in time. Be posative, embrace each day and go in there, get on with it and get the best of it. Remember its what YOU make it.

Straighten up and fly right,

CG

[S44]

Leeds 65...... you've hit the nail on the head!

[corsair]

I think it's a troll, Logitech is a manufacturer of PC joysticks. Which is a favourite with many 'Microsoft pilots'. Notable also is that it's a first post. Notable too is this line:

two MRJT a/c awaiting maintenance, a 737-800 and a 319-132.

Which is very spottery particularly; 319-132. If I wrote that line I would have said: two airliners in for maintenance, a 737 and an Airbus 319. I'm guessing too, that he won't come back and defend himself either.

If he is for real, well Leeds65 hit the nail on the head. I'm hoping that he gave himself away to his employer with his description. Someone like that doesn't deserve to have that job.

[Mile High Nutcase]

Here's an idea Logitech

How about swapping jobs with me. Give your bosses your resignation, tell them i'll be happy to take your job instead.

I'll fly your depressing aircraft without paying for the type rating and you can work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week in the security job just to pay the bills, which i've doing since completing my training 3 months ago.

everytime i look out the window i see every aircraft flying into and out of London City and also all the ones approaching Heathrow. Trust me, after spending the 60K, my job certainly isn't as depressing as yours. you can sit and wonder all day everyday watching the A380's in a hold from i work.

[nick14]

Are the MRJT's even line flying yet?? would they be in maintainance?

[corsair]

Oh yes, nick the MRJT has been in service for some time now along with S/MRJT and LRJT and the amazing ELRJT.

So you're bound to see one or two in the 'large hangar' with Logitech's puddle jumper with a

MTOW of 13000 lbs.

It's

old, slow and very very basic,

you know, but they allow it into the same hangar as all those shiny MRJTs.

That's pilot talk you know.

[buzzc152]

Mate, you are a total prat and I hope I never have to fly with you. If you're only motivation is to get a hard on for a big shiny jet then you should just stay at home at look at airliners.net.

[Lafyar Cokov]

Similar Bad Decision

I am in a similar position to Logitech.....

I recently accepted a job on a four-engined jet and, having completed the type rating, now realise I may have made a mistake. When I'm lined up waiting for take off next to these 747-400s, A380s and 777-300s I realise that my small jet isn't what I really wanted to be flying. I should have waited to be offered a job on one of these much bigger types.

Have I been a complete idiot accepting the job I have now? I just believe that I have been destined to fly an aircraft over 150,000 tonnes and I've been foolish accepting a job on an aeroplane weighing less than that!

What do you all think?

[skiptoit]

I did my first line flights very very recently, in an aircraft with a MTOW of 16,204lb (That's a Jetstream 32). Had I dreamed of flying a jet? Yes, one day, but certainly not now, I have too much flying to enjoy yet. Just yesterday I was sat in the righthand seat on the turnaround, the skipper was outside doing the walkaround, the weather was awful, lashing rain, wind right across the runway at 20-25kts. It was night time. And I have never been so happy in my entire life! Yes, in a turboprop you fly in the weather, but man, it makes you a hell of a pilot. I am the luckiest guy alive. I was mildly depressed during the ground school for my type rating, but purely because I was stuck in a classroom studying meaningless diagram after meaningless diagram.

I'm guessing you're on a Kingair? If you aren't happy, give it up, give it to someone who wants it. Because I know over 60 guys that I met along the road to my CPL/IR who are out of work and desperate. They would kill to fly a PA28 and be paid, let alone a Jetstream or Kingair. One is overjoyed because he got offered a job flying Aztecs in Ghana yesterday. Get some sense of perspective. God almighty!!

And just to finish off, this is completely true. After my final sector yesterday I was positioning home with BA for my days off to go home and see some family. As I was in the departure lounge the FO walks past me, I was also in uniform. He stops and walks back and shakes my hand. He was a guy I trained with during ground school. He's now flying the 737 for BA. When we landed he asked me to come and say hi to him in the flight deck, and you know what, both him and his Captain said they envied ME!

Be grateful for what you've got and seriously change your attitude.

[119.35]

All the way from 0 to F/O and that's his first post - must be a wind up!!

[Pjlot]

First Post

If this is real it's highly unlikely that it's his first post!

It's probably and alias to protect his identity!

[FrankAbagnale]

Message from Tyler Durden

"Man, I see in fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy **** we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

[James_Grace]

I think its disgusting you feel that way... There are people is this country struggling to find work in McDonalds and you rant on about the aircraft not been big enough. Are you flying a Beechcraft Super King Air or something? If so you should be happy you've got it... and without paying for it. There are many people out there (me included) who would love to get paid for flying for the first time in there lives.

[corsair]

Good quote Frank, I like this line best:

We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place.

Story of my life, I'm afraid. Missed all the interesting stuff.

Nothing to do with our trolling friend though, who I note hasn't returned or at least hasn't posted again. No surprise there.

[cessnagirl]

LAFYAR; similar bad decision.

No, of course not. It's not the size that matters.