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"About the "vocation" factor. Well, i would have LOOVED it if they had analyzed our vocation. That would have given some of us such great advantage. I know you guys out there, spending hours in airports just for the sake of feeling at home, and watching and staring, sometimes even letting a tear fall. Also those of you who have made flight simulator the second most important thing in your life for how helpful it is when for when you study Instruments, and for when your friends prefer to play play station as well. And what about those who have the superpower of boring their families and friends, and can't even conceive why would someone not love this whole thing. Ever since we where little little little, ever since we can even remember.
Good thing is that all people who are as vocational (and freak) as I am, have a way to making this love contagious. So if they would have assessed that in the beggining, they would surely have gained a bunch of pilots who, over all, will LOVE their jobs as they make Etihad a new member of their families and daily concerns, and to whom, the 5 year bond with the company were just words they completely ignored cause we never considered leaving the company at all. Bond, Shmond! You don't leave the company which gave you an opportunity like this one..."
Aeromar 27, please don't take offense when I say this as I'm trying to be as polite as I can, and secondly it is none of my business.
It's just some of your posts including the above appear to be aimed at none of the open readers of this forum, more like whoever you think at Etihad is reading this thread.
I will be honest and will admit that I have typed out a few posts similar to yours, however I stopped and thought; hang on a minute. If any of these guys get to interview they could use this as answers to interview questions. I'm just nicely trying to say that your reasons for wanting to be a pilot and how deeply absorbed into aviation you are is something that in this kind of process should stay yours until asked by the company.
By the way it's not just you, I've read a few posts that have made me cringe and think, who are they writing this stuff to?
As you know I'm not the most active poster here so try not to take offense just consider what I'm saying
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Good thing is that all people who are as vocational (and freak) as I am, have a way to making this love contagious. So if they would have assessed that in the beggining, they would surely have gained a bunch of pilots who, over all, will LOVE their jobs as they make Etihad a new member of their families and daily concerns, and to whom, the 5 year bond with the company were just words they completely ignored cause we never considered leaving the company at all. Bond, Shmond! You don't leave the company which gave you an opportunity like this one..."
Aeromar 27, please don't take offense when I say this as I'm trying to be as polite as I can, and secondly it is none of my business.
It's just some of your posts including the above appear to be aimed at none of the open readers of this forum, more like whoever you think at Etihad is reading this thread.
I will be honest and will admit that I have typed out a few posts similar to yours, however I stopped and thought; hang on a minute. If any of these guys get to interview they could use this as answers to interview questions. I'm just nicely trying to say that your reasons for wanting to be a pilot and how deeply absorbed into aviation you are is something that in this kind of process should stay yours until asked by the company.
By the way it's not just you, I've read a few posts that have made me cringe and think, who are they writing this stuff to?
As you know I'm not the most active poster here so try not to take offense just consider what I'm saying
Cheers
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Well, on my passport it doesn't say Aeromar27 you know... and i don't expect anyone private messaging me saying "wow, we read your post about your vocation, why didn't you say that before! get ur ass to Abu Dhabi ASAP!".
I think I'm mature enough, and have been working ON aeroplanes long enough to know that vocation and passion, are not that important on the daily operation. I've met captains who build kit aeroplanes with their kids on their days off and still get goose bumps after 30 years of service, and captains who almost hate their jobs EVEN when they hop on a brand new 77W which smells like a new car. Both of them get the job done, but one enjoys it more than the other, and when u work with him, you can tell. Im sure all of you who work as flight attendants know what im talking about here.
As i said, i was talking to the people out there who have a vocation as strong as mine (they know who they are), and that in some way feel it's unfair that some people who are giving this a try, do it just because they didn't really know what career to go for and cause they like the uniform(and they sure have the right! dont get me wrong... its life). Again, they might as well become great pilots. That was all i wanted to say.
I think I'm mature enough, and have been working ON aeroplanes long enough to know that vocation and passion, are not that important on the daily operation. I've met captains who build kit aeroplanes with their kids on their days off and still get goose bumps after 30 years of service, and captains who almost hate their jobs EVEN when they hop on a brand new 77W which smells like a new car. Both of them get the job done, but one enjoys it more than the other, and when u work with him, you can tell. Im sure all of you who work as flight attendants know what im talking about here.
As i said, i was talking to the people out there who have a vocation as strong as mine (they know who they are), and that in some way feel it's unfair that some people who are giving this a try, do it just because they didn't really know what career to go for and cause they like the uniform(and they sure have the right! dont get me wrong... its life). Again, they might as well become great pilots. That was all i wanted to say.
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Don't get me wrong every feeling you described is exactly how I feel, except feeling accommodated for at many UK airports is a rarity and the trips cost too much So just soak it all up when I travel or if I'm accompanying my friend on one of his Fly be flights as an FA.
Are you a flight attendant? (Aeromar27)
By the way I take your point about people who are just applying because it seems like a cool career and they probably are qualified. If they are what Etihad wants theres not much us hardcore flying addicts can do.
So just soak it all up when I travel or if I'm accompanying my friend on one of his Fly be flights as an FA.Are you a flight attendant? (Aeromar27)
By the way I take your point about people who are just applying because it seems like a cool career and they probably are qualified. If they are what Etihad wants theres not much us hardcore flying addicts can do.
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So we are on the same page. And you must agree that vocation makes a good employee, and also that for "protecting" their investment, it could have been taken into consideration, right?
I'm 26 years old. When i was a kid, my vocation (obsession) was very childish, but as i grew up it matured with me to the point of knowing that its not passion alone what flies the airplane from A to B. On that fact have agreed with me numerous pilots during the long conversations i had with them when i was cabin crew. All of them would notice immediately that someone who loves aviation will never consider it an effort to learn new things and to soak himself in knowledge and more knowledge. They also detected my positive "freakness" when while the rest of the crew was having their horizontal rest, i would spend the time reading the a/c manuals in the cockpit, sometimes even explaining them things about the aircraft which they had forgotten since their last refresher... hehe. (vocation booster) Good times.
Again, with no intentions to impress anyone, knowing that im not the only one who has been in the position im about to describe.
Do you know how it feels when a senior 777 or 340 Captain tells you things like:
-man, you are really going to love this job once you make it.
-get your ass off that fa uniform and start doing your pilot thing, you got what it takes!
-we could use a couple like you...
-if only the company saw the conversation we just had about why electric right HYD pump has to be turned on the first, and off the last.
You know, after a lifetime of wondering whether one will make it or not, and right before the eyes of Etihad, some thoughts come to one's head. How on earth am I going to prove this to them like i did to all those other pilots!
I'm 26 years old. When i was a kid, my vocation (obsession) was very childish, but as i grew up it matured with me to the point of knowing that its not passion alone what flies the airplane from A to B. On that fact have agreed with me numerous pilots during the long conversations i had with them when i was cabin crew. All of them would notice immediately that someone who loves aviation will never consider it an effort to learn new things and to soak himself in knowledge and more knowledge. They also detected my positive "freakness" when while the rest of the crew was having their horizontal rest, i would spend the time reading the a/c manuals in the cockpit, sometimes even explaining them things about the aircraft which they had forgotten since their last refresher... hehe. (vocation booster) Good times.
Again, with no intentions to impress anyone, knowing that im not the only one who has been in the position im about to describe.
Do you know how it feels when a senior 777 or 340 Captain tells you things like:
-man, you are really going to love this job once you make it.
-get your ass off that fa uniform and start doing your pilot thing, you got what it takes!
-we could use a couple like you...
-if only the company saw the conversation we just had about why electric right HYD pump has to be turned on the first, and off the last.
You know, after a lifetime of wondering whether one will make it or not, and right before the eyes of Etihad, some thoughts come to one's head. How on earth am I going to prove this to them like i did to all those other pilots!
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It's just some of your posts including the above appear to be aimed at none of the open readers of this forum, more like whoever you think at Etihad is reading this thread.
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oh, and about the IVAO date... just PM me and ill fly too. But, dont expect me to do KJFK-OMAA... i will only do that flight when they pay me, hehe. I suggest OMAA-somewhere in india.
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I suggest OMAA-somewhere in india.
. OMAA- Abu dhabi international airport, UAE...Just curious, Did anyone with previous flight experience get a call for the assessment??
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LHR Assessment July 30th
Just wanted to drop a quick line and say that I found the assessment day a great experience. Even though looking back I know I could have done alot better than I probably did on the tests. This is the closest opportunity I have had to getting on board with an airline to do what I have always wanted to do.
Good Luck to everyone who have there assessments coming up.
Karl
Good Luck to everyone who have there assessments coming up.
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I'll see If can sort something out with a few VATSIM controllers in that region and do a mini event for us guys and any Ad-Hoc pilots.
I'm suggesting Abu Dhabi - Cairo, simply because I know the Egyptian FIR is really trying to make it's self on the global VATSIM map. Plus it isn't too far. Just purchased the 8800GT XXX, it's amazing
Just a quick one, where have the suggestions that they screened 6000 cv's came from?
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I'm suggesting Abu Dhabi - Cairo, simply because I know the Egyptian FIR is really trying to make it's self on the global VATSIM map. Plus it isn't too far. Just purchased the 8800GT XXX, it's amazing
Just a quick one, where have the suggestions that they screened 6000 cv's came from?
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Really? without going off topic I heard that the 9 series was awfull lol
So what about these 6000 Cv's where has this come from?
By the way, Is anybody at work today like I am? Does life not seem so mundane now after getting a taste of turning your hobby into a job.
So what about these 6000 Cv's where has this come from?
By the way, Is anybody at work today like I am? Does life not seem so mundane now after getting a taste of turning your hobby into a job.
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hey everyone , just been reading the latest info, particular thanks to aeromar for clearing up some of the recruitment process.
From this information is there any point in UK residents still applying as it looks like all the europe tests this year are over. I say this as the application deadline on the website is listed as the last day of December of this year.
Did they say if they would conduct any more tests next year?
Also, of those who attended the assesment what was the general age of applicants? (i.e. were there more degree holders than non degree holders did it seem)
many thanks to you all and good luck!
From this information is there any point in UK residents still applying as it looks like all the europe tests this year are over. I say this as the application deadline on the website is listed as the last day of December of this year.
Did they say if they would conduct any more tests next year?
Also, of those who attended the assesment what was the general age of applicants? (i.e. were there more degree holders than non degree holders did it seem)
many thanks to you all and good luck!
This may indicate a hope that the worldwide programme becomes a rolling one.
Afterall there can only be so many Emiratees that want to do it!
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I noticed in the news items in my workspace that Etihad is going on a U.S. road show for cockpit crew to New York, Chicago, Denver, Phoenix and Miami all in the month of August. To me it seems as if they see that there is a large pool of qualified direct entry FO's and CA's that will possibly be furloughed from their regional and mainline airlines coinciding with fall schedule cutbacks in the United States and I have a nagging feeling that we (Americans, Canadians, etc.) won't be recruited for the cadet program as heavily as other regions of the world. Does anyone else agree or am I over-analyzing this?
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You are over analyzing IMO. These people receive new aircraft on a regular basis and considering the cadet program will only feed them 30 pilots a year they need other ways to staff the airplanes. I also believe it's easier to convince an American pilot to leave his regional company and go for the big irons, easier than in Europe. They also did that in South America. When flying to my assessment from Madrid, I flew Lan Chile. I happen to know some people in the company so i stepped into the cockpit to say hi. I remember the captain told me that various middle eastern companies had gone asking almost every captain, if they wanted to join the company.
These companies offer such a great package, it's not hard for them to take pilots from other companies.
These companies offer such a great package, it's not hard for them to take pilots from other companies.
