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The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.

Old 20th Jan 2008, 18:40
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Hi,
Just wondered if there is anyone just over 30 that has applied for the CTC Wings cadet scheme and has been invited to sit phase 2 tests, as i can't see an age limit on CTC's website?

Thanks.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 12:41
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Age limit

As far as I am aware under EU discrimination laws Companies are no longer allowed to use age as a selection criteria and so are not allowed to set an age limit for intake to the company.

What is said and what actually happens can be two entirely different things though.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 13:07
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Thanks for the info De-fault. I read of someone on here being 34 and being invited to phase 2 (unless it was a typo and there age is 24).That's why i was curious to see how many older candidates had applied and been successful. Do many people actually fail phase 1 and are not invited to sit the aptitude tests?
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 14:43
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Question

Dear all

I have my phase 3 very shortly. I've read through many of the pages of the original CTC discussion thread, and note that I might be required to do a public introduction. Since we've never been told during phase 2 about having to give a public introduction to the rest of the attendees is it possible that this no longer takes place, can anyone who has recently been for phase3 confirm whether or not they had to do this?

Also can you describe the event itself, did you have to stand up and address the other attendees from a podium or from the front of the room, or did you simply remain seated around a room and discuss across a table or similar?

I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that the thought of public speaking scares me more than death! I don't believe I will be doing myself any favours during this event, since I have a habbit of letting my nerves get the better of me in these scenarios.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 15:03
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public speaking

McWho, There are loads of guides online or in books describing ways of getting over the fear of public speaking. I have done it a few times and I would say the absolute KEY THING is to know what you're talking about. Practice what you will say and deliberately speak slowly.

If you make a mistake or forget what you were supposed to say, that will be your downfall.

Keep it short, dont go into much detail, keep it interesting, and speak to objects rather than faces. Pick out pillars, empty seats, even dodgy hair cuts and speak to them. To everyone else it will look like you're speaking to people in the room.

Everyone else has to do it and something like 8 out of 10 people are like you so your not alone.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 15:07
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To my knowledge, phase 3 is simply two group exercises and a formal interview. No public speech or anything?

Can anyone confirm this?
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 16:56
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Prior to the first group exercise, you'll have to briefly introduce yourself... You'll remain seated around a table and will talk about you.. Who you are, where you come from, your education, your hobbies and most of all WHY you are here today, why you want to be a pilot...
Think of it the day before, it musn't be to long as it's very unformal... But don't forget that it is your first contact with your assessors... So keep smiling and be happy..
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 17:17
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McWho if your nervous about introducing yourself, try writing down some bulletpoints on what your going to talk about. This will help your mind focus. When it comes to public speaking, what a previous person said about not looking directly at people would help but i'm not sure if in this situation it would be appropriate. Remember the examiners are looking for confidence... try and get some eye contact in there with a couple of people including the examiner. Even if it is just for a second or two.
Practise in the mirror and see what your facial expressions are going to be, try not to look worried. Easier said than done but it has to be done i'm afraid.
Good luck, I have my stage 2 on the 29th .
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 17:23
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McWho-

The only way of getting better is practice!! Sit you family down and go through it, or your friends or even your dog!

I promise it'll give you a lot more confidence!
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 17:31
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Public Speaking

McWho,
Honestly its not that big a deal - the assessors introduce themselves first to give you an idea of what they want. It basically covers when you decided you wanted to be a pilot and why, what you have done between now and then, what flying experience you have and what hobbies you have. Its literally a couple of minutes and then its over! Don't panic too much about it (may just plan how to cover it in your head - but I did this while I was listening to what everyone else said!)
Good luck

Ann

Casino335 - I think most people are ruled out at phase 1 so if you get to phase 2 you are in the minority already.
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 22:28
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Public Speaking

From what has been said it seems the public speaking element is not such a big deal.

I did say concentrate on in-animate objects however if it s sit-around-a-table type ordeal then its all about interacting.... i guess
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 11:02
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Hey there
I sent ctc an email last friday to book stage 2 and they haven't replied yet. anyone knows if this is usual for ctc to take long to reply?

regards
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 11:25
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PPL152,
As far as I am aware, bookings are done through the website not via email (if I am wrong then just ignore this next bit!)
You can log on using your application number (If you don't know it then it will be in one of the emails they sent you when you passed Phase 1) and the password you chose when you originally applied. Once you have logged in to your application, it should come up with all of the available Phase 2 sessions, and you just click on the one you want to attend then give them a call and pay for it.
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 12:50
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ctc BOOKING

PPL152

Hello,

Once you book your date/time online you will get confirmation immediately however it is not fully booked until you pay. They send a reciept in the post.

Im heading down for stage 2 on trhe 12th of Feb for the 1pm session. Staying at the Queens Hotel on the 11th. Good price and its got a pool etc, great for relaxing before the big day....
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 13:06
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Hello there
Thanks for the replies.

I sent them an email so they put my application active once again since it was on hold. So after that I will be able to book phase 2, and maybe book the other phases provisionally since I will be coming from outside the UK.

Just waiting for their email...
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 15:01
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Hey sleepy,

I'll be joining you on the 12th at 1 for Phase 2. Can't wait! Will be driving down from London so hopefully wont be too bad a journey.

CapCon
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 15:28
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12th at 1pm

EXCELLENT! I was beginning to think I was the only one! I'll keep an eye out for you on the 12th!

Does anyone know how many people go to stgae 2 and how many make stage 3/4?
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 15:31
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There were about 16 at my Stage 2, 6 (normally 8) at my Stage 3, and 2 (inc me) at Stage 4.
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Old 22nd Jan 2008, 18:52
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I will be heading down from Leeds to take the tests for stage 2 the 5th of February.

Does anyone know a good place to stay, as I will be in Christchurch the 4th.

From what I understand the numerical tests include: long multiplication/division/addition/subtraction and ratios etc. Can anyone correct me on this?

If you roughly get 1 min per question then they can't be too complicated can they?

Cheers!
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Old 23rd Jan 2008, 08:19
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hotel in christchurch

Dondon,

I booked a room at the Queens Hotel. From the map it looks very close to CTC plus its far better than the travel lodge and cheaper if you book through superbreak.com. It has a gym, pool etc and breakfast is included in the price... 32.
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