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Old 10th May 2006, 22:23
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INSIDEVIEW - do you like the sound of it ?????


I wouldn't hold your breath for Parc to recommend you after an MCC - they like everybody else are after your cash......
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Old 11th May 2006, 08:02
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ok let me see, try and collect your facts and get them right !!!!!!!!!!
Rumour network or not, some people really can be very unhelpful.

Parc as do all the recommended schools, recommend everyone who is suitable and within the age limits.
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Old 11th May 2006, 08:49
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Ryanair Sim check

I have a friend who made the sim and interview last week. The personal and technical interviews were mixed in one talking more about the reason for flying at Ryan, moving to Uk etc... Something about Jepp. Nothing 737 tech. The sim was ok with a AP/FD/AT off, QDM, QDR and Radials changes, eng fire, one eng land cross wind. They changed the wind direction 2 or 3 times.
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Old 11th May 2006, 10:58
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yeah i know , but hey its getting better ...

let us all help out each other ...be a team ,accept and be happy if another ROOKIE gets a job ,its one less on the List .

Fighting against each other doesnt help ...
so one more time '
TEAM UP GUYS
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Old 11th May 2006, 19:46
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email confirmation

Hi Readers

Anyone can confirm the email for ryanair please to drop a CV.

I used the [email protected] but didn't work then tried [email protected]

I have been told to use the email address you dont have to fill in online application some people went to the road show and filled the form now been invited for sim cx ride.

Cheers for your help

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Old 11th May 2006, 21:11
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So what the hell is the point in the CAE and SAS?

I've filled in both of them and haven't even got an acknowledgement email ("thank you for your application that has further added to the junk in our inbox. We will be deleting your application very shortly and if you do not hear anything in the next 3 months, you can assume you have been unsuccesful in your pitifully pathetic application attempt. Muppet.")
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Old 12th May 2006, 21:15
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So Can anyone clarify if those emails are also good for low timers no TR guys

Thanks
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Old 13th May 2006, 04:39
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Thumbs up Ryanair now bonding pilots?

I hope to finish off my ir in the next six weeks and was wondering if it is true that ryanair is now bonding pilots as they cant get enough people to pay for thier type ratings. Several of my friends who finished from my school are currently working with easyjet so there might be an element of truth in it as people seem to be avoiding them and it might encourage them to treat thier new pilots better.
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Old 13th May 2006, 06:59
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I've heard they are only bonding pilots who have JAR25 experience ie turbo prop f/o's and captains etc. For those without JAR25 experience then you have to apply through one of Ryanair's approved organisations and then fill out the application and then hand tons of cash.

Wish more people would be firm and stand their ground and not go down the SSTR route.

Glad I didn't go down the Emerald route.
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Old 13th May 2006, 11:02
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You'll still end up paying for your type rating as your salary will be reduced. I think I'd rather pay than be bonded.
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Old 13th May 2006, 13:38
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Originally Posted by TolTol
You'll still end up paying for your type rating as your salary will be reduced. I think I'd rather pay than be bonded.
Does that mean ryanair will pay for it but the money will be gradually taken out of your salary over that period i.e say 4/5 years. Pls answer in simple yes or no.
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Old 13th May 2006, 14:02
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So I have been told. Maybe somebody else can clarify.
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Old 13th May 2006, 14:43
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With a risk of looking like comlete idiot I must ask: what exactly is bonding?
I thougt that it was a contract that said that the company pays for TR but if the pilot leaves the company before the contract ends he have to pay the remaining part. The pilot pays nothing unles he brakes the contract.
Am I wrong, or is there somethig else to this?
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Old 13th May 2006, 15:33
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Bonding used to be a contract that said if you leave the company within a pre-set time you would have to pay for the typerating otherwise you wouldn't have to, but these days it seems like bonding means having to pay for the typerating and be bound to the company at the same time
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Old 13th May 2006, 17:39
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Maybe Im not stupid after all. Tack Özcan.
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Old 13th May 2006, 19:55
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Anyone know whether they will bond low-hour cadets in the future? It would be much better to be bonded than have to pay simply because you wouldn't be €30k+ out of pocket straight away, and you would be almost guaranteed a job if they were paying for your TR.
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Old 14th May 2006, 09:10
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They are only bonding pilots who have 1500 jar 25 and 500 hours jet. It is a 25 grand bond which reduces by 5 grand per year. As far as i know your salary is not reduced.
So if you only want to do 1000 hours on the 737 and then off to another company it is much cheaper to pay for TR yourself.
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Old 14th May 2006, 10:27
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Originally Posted by Özcan
Bonding used to be a contract that said if you leave the company within a pre-set time you would have to pay for the typerating otherwise you wouldn't have to, but these days it seems like bonding means having to pay for the typerating and be bound to the company at the same time
Anybody who pays for a type rating and is bonded TOO needs their head examining. It could possibly be illegal as it is an unfair restriction being placed unpon you. Bonding is fine as it offers some security to the type rating provider (the one that pays) against you leaving after many thousands of pounds worth of their investment. Trouble is, even if this is proved to be what is happening, the reduced starting salary will just become the 'norm' salary, defined as having no deductions taken from it to pay for the type rating..... JUST DON'T DO IT!

They are only bonding pilots who have 1500 jar 25 and 500 hours jet. It is a 25 grand bond which reduces by 5 grand per year. As far as i know your salary is not reduced.
£25k over 5 years seems excessive too. They will have made their investment back plus a huge amount in that time of productive work. I think that figure is unreasonable personally and the timescale unreasonable too. There are better options out there.

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Old 14th May 2006, 10:55
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TELL US >>>>>WHERE !!!!
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Old 14th May 2006, 11:34
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My company for one. New joiners with no type rating have to pay back £10k over five years through a reduced starting salary (£2k a year less than normal). For this they get a type rating on either 737 or 75/767. If you choose to leave within the five years you just pay the loan off yourself.

Captains starting salary £63.5k with about £1100 per annum payscale rise up to scale 15.

F/O starting salary is £40k, with a payscale rise of about £1200 per annum. Captains £17 and F/Os £11 per sector. Nearly £3 per hour duty pay. Captains £525 per day and F/Os £360 per day if you sell back a day off.

S/O terms proportionally lower for less than ATPL in hand.

Accidental Death Insurance is about £230k for captains and £130k for F/Os. Loss of Licence £85k for captains, £55k F/Os. £19k a year for TRI/E.

New pension is money purchase (don't know the details as not in it). Uniforms, car parking passes, food and drinks onboard, medicals, sims and all hotac paid for by the company. Positioning by reputable airlines only or Hallmark cars. They also paid a £600 repair bill for my car when it was damaged in a car park at work.

Flying hours about 6-700 per year with 42 days annual leave (max 2 weeks summer, the rest non-summer season). Seniority list for basing/ bids, but not for leave which is done on a points system so everyone gets a fair crack. Mix of shorthaul low cost and charter and longhaul when senior enough.

They are recruiting both S/Os, F/Os and have been employing direct entry captains in the last two years, however many F/Os are looking for upgrades and this practice is on hold at the moment.

PP
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