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g1344304,
But think about this.
Say you get posted to a London base (as an example) where houses prices are extremly expensive, what are you going to do? What money are you going to live off? It's not a case of living with your parents anymore.
I admit, I can be very money orientated, but I don't think its fair how the Airline recruitment policy is going along these days, were pilots are forking out huge amounts of cash in order to achieve a dream with very little support from the airlines.
FL370 Officeboy,
Of course I need to look at the long term, I could be earning £50,000 in the first 3 to 4 years if I'm given the rank of Captain, which is what FlyBe said is possible today. However, say you have a girlfriend, wife, children and a home to pay for, there is no way you are going to afford the flying for the first 4 years. Meaning you could lose your home if you can't pay the money back.
I enjoy taking risks, I do it in business all the time and have been successful in it, perhaps these were calculted risks, but this program just doesn't make sense for me. The risks are really bad, and your going to end up spending your early 20s (being one of the best years of your life) skint.
But think about this.
Say you get posted to a London base (as an example) where houses prices are extremly expensive, what are you going to do? What money are you going to live off? It's not a case of living with your parents anymore.
I admit, I can be very money orientated, but I don't think its fair how the Airline recruitment policy is going along these days, were pilots are forking out huge amounts of cash in order to achieve a dream with very little support from the airlines.
FL370 Officeboy,
Of course I need to look at the long term, I could be earning £50,000 in the first 3 to 4 years if I'm given the rank of Captain, which is what FlyBe said is possible today. However, say you have a girlfriend, wife, children and a home to pay for, there is no way you are going to afford the flying for the first 4 years. Meaning you could lose your home if you can't pay the money back.
I enjoy taking risks, I do it in business all the time and have been successful in it, perhaps these were calculted risks, but this program just doesn't make sense for me. The risks are really bad, and your going to end up spending your early 20s (being one of the best years of your life) skint.
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preduk, I have talked about such a case with my parents and girlfriend who will also be earning 20k. I dont come from a rich family and nothing is being handed to me on a plate but my parents would help me in that case just so I had enough to live off (but that is worse case scenario)
P.S. Flybe do not operate from any London base. Im not sure which of their bases would have the highest housing prices in the area. Probably Birmingham or Manchester?
I do feel its a bit unfair that the people who will be accepted to the thomsonfly scheme will be earning almost double our salary (45k for a starting first officer (although they do have a second officer rank)) as our jobs wont be that different and we will have went through essentially the same selection process a few weeks apart. However, like I said, I wanna fly regional and I think I will be very happy with Flybe
Also, I would be lying if I said I didnt care about money, but hopefully after a few years (3,4,5 years????) we will be captains starting on at least £50k but who knows what the salary situation will be like by then. It may not be as much as other carriers but there are other perks with working regional.
P.S. Flybe do not operate from any London base. Im not sure which of their bases would have the highest housing prices in the area. Probably Birmingham or Manchester?
I do feel its a bit unfair that the people who will be accepted to the thomsonfly scheme will be earning almost double our salary (45k for a starting first officer (although they do have a second officer rank)) as our jobs wont be that different and we will have went through essentially the same selection process a few weeks apart. However, like I said, I wanna fly regional and I think I will be very happy with Flybe
Also, I would be lying if I said I didnt care about money, but hopefully after a few years (3,4,5 years????) we will be captains starting on at least £50k but who knows what the salary situation will be like by then. It may not be as much as other carriers but there are other perks with working regional.
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g1344304,
There is potential to earn good money, they were talking about some of the senior captains earing up to 94K per year.
I am just really concerned about the first couple of years. I like how FlyBe are interested in developing their First Officers within the first couple of years. They seem like a very caring company to work for, but as I said the funds at the start just don't add up right.
If you have family backing, fantastic, if you don't then your going to struggle big time.
Excuse my London example, i only mean't it as an example, not to be taken seriously.
Best of luck to those that follow this path! FTE looked fantastic place to learn!
There is potential to earn good money, they were talking about some of the senior captains earing up to 94K per year.
I am just really concerned about the first couple of years. I like how FlyBe are interested in developing their First Officers within the first couple of years. They seem like a very caring company to work for, but as I said the funds at the start just don't add up right.
If you have family backing, fantastic, if you don't then your going to struggle big time.
Excuse my London example, i only mean't it as an example, not to be taken seriously.
Best of luck to those that follow this path! FTE looked fantastic place to learn!
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Its gonna cost you a whole lot of money whatever way you do it. Best you do your own research (as you are) and cut your own suit to match your cloth. Ask plenty of questions and figure out the best way forward for you. I can tell you that the maps scheme is one of the best ways into commercial aviation today, not cheap, but one of the best. Look at it as an investment
Its gonna cost you a whole lot of money whatever way you do it. Best you do your own research (as you are) and cut your own suit to match your cloth. Ask plenty of questions and figure out the best way forward for you. I can tell you that the maps scheme is one of the best ways into commercial aviation today, not cheap, but one of the best. Look at it as an investment
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What route are you taking to becomming a pilot preduk? The other option would be to go to FTE self sponsored and maybe not even get a job at the end and then would really be up **** creek 
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I'm wanting to do modular... I know the risk of not getting a job at the end of it is higher, however the money used to pay for the training will be my own money. I will be working at the same time as doing the training (for some of it anyways).
I'm at Prestwick at the moment doing training, and it's a fantastic area to learn to fly. With some very experienced and very good instructors.
I'm at University at the moment, but while I am at University I am hammering the hours to get my PPL finished and then move onto the rest. This is all while running my business, so I'm very busy!!
I'm hoping to do my GS at Bristol and do my CPL etc at Oxford if I get the chance. I have a while to go, so research is the best way for me to find out what I really want to do.
again, best of luck to you on your choosen path!
I'm at Prestwick at the moment doing training, and it's a fantastic area to learn to fly. With some very experienced and very good instructors.
I'm at University at the moment, but while I am at University I am hammering the hours to get my PPL finished and then move onto the rest. This is all while running my business, so I'm very busy!!
I'm hoping to do my GS at Bristol and do my CPL etc at Oxford if I get the chance. I have a while to go, so research is the best way for me to find out what I really want to do.
again, best of luck to you on your choosen path!
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Looks like (having said I didn't make it...) I'm now on the course and starting in June! So yes Keenan, I'll be there with you. I think there'll be 4 of us on that course, and then 6 on the September one.
For those of you out there that didn't make it, or are still aspiring to; keep on going! Just because you didn't get it first time, keep pushing and eventually a door will open, somewhere.
I'd just like to say a 'thank you' to Flybe and in particular Capt Given for the way in which the selection was handled and the dedication they obviously show to all their students. (And for the opportunity they're giving me!) They look like a brilliant airline to work for guys, so if you haven't got in this time, persevere!
See you on the 21st June!
Ben
For those of you out there that didn't make it, or are still aspiring to; keep on going! Just because you didn't get it first time, keep pushing and eventually a door will open, somewhere.
I'd just like to say a 'thank you' to Flybe and in particular Capt Given for the way in which the selection was handled and the dedication they obviously show to all their students. (And for the opportunity they're giving me!) They look like a brilliant airline to work for guys, so if you haven't got in this time, persevere!
See you on the 21st June!
Ben
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bb503,
My invoice is in the post! I accepted CTC yesterday instead of the Flybe MAPS scheme and hence you are onboard! Nice work though. Have a great time guys as it's a looks a superb scheme. One benefit you guys will have is better weather than in NZ!
All the best
socloss
My invoice is in the post! I accepted CTC yesterday instead of the Flybe MAPS scheme and hence you are onboard! Nice work though. Have a great time guys as it's a looks a superb scheme. One benefit you guys will have is better weather than in NZ!
All the best
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well done bb503, it must have been a great feeling to get that phone call when your wern't expecting it!
Anyone on the september course applied for the loan yet? I have the loan application form and t&c summary but have not applied yet. I thought it best to wait until an individual payment schedule was given by FTE.
Anyone on the september course applied for the loan yet? I have the loan application form and t&c summary but have not applied yet. I thought it best to wait until an individual payment schedule was given by FTE.
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good for flybe doing all this, but I really dont see how it benefits either party. the students obviously get a foot in the door, but on the salaries they pay its going to be a struggle. As for flybe maybe some PR but what else?? After a year most of these guys are going to be off to easy, monarch, thomson, ba etc...How does this benefit flybe?? Fair enough the thomson scheme is good in that the guys are likely to stay. Wouldnt it benefit flybe in starting the guys on something like £32-35k..at least they would stay..and before someone says there bonded, doesnt mean jack on that salary..just interested not having a go fair play to flybe to give some a chance!
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Hey everyone,
Quick introduction from myself...I'm Henry and I'm with Flybe on the September course - very excited!
I'm right at the end of my A levels just now and will be going straight on with no university to Jerez. Everything with the loan etc is going through and progressing nicely, how is everyone else getting on?
BR,
Henry
Quick introduction from myself...I'm Henry and I'm with Flybe on the September course - very excited!
I'm right at the end of my A levels just now and will be going straight on with no university to Jerez. Everything with the loan etc is going through and progressing nicely, how is everyone else getting on?
BR,
Henry
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Flybe and FTE - First Class Graduated
So the first Flybe tagged (MAPS) students have graduated from FTE:
http://www.flighttrainingeurope.com/...graduates&n=55
So did they all get their JOC course and get jobs offered straight away or is there a holding pool or are they waiting to hear?
http://www.flighttrainingeurope.com/...graduates&n=55
So did they all get their JOC course and get jobs offered straight away or is there a holding pool or are they waiting to hear?