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Sorry to hear that Ben. There were some bits of the interview that I was thinking about after and I thought I could have handled them better. One or two questions did trip me up a little.
I would still definitely consider going to FTE self sponsored. It does look really good.
I would still definitely consider going to FTE self sponsored. It does look really good.
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Just booked my class 1 in a few weeks time, figured it was good to get it out of the way before all the finance gets sorted out (would be pretty crap to land a £70,000 loan or even pay the deposit and then fail the medical!). Anyone else on a similar boat or do you guys/gals already have your class 1?
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Anyone else get a call from Carmen today? Pretty scary to hear that the bank contact details along with a business case will be sent out next week. Funny how I just booked my medical this morning and she called in the afternoon saying that FTE had block booked medicals for the Flybe guys on 2nd May. Oh well, I will get my results a bit later than everyone else!
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Hi,
Yes i got a call from Carmen asking me to photocopy my passport, class 1 medical and E111 form. It was and still is daunting though when she asked about finance and I promptly replied back with the words bank and loan!
socloss
Yes i got a call from Carmen asking me to photocopy my passport, class 1 medical and E111 form. It was and still is daunting though when she asked about finance and I promptly replied back with the words bank and loan!
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I haven't heard anything yet, although I did miss a phone call today as I was in a meeting and couldn't answer it. The number didn't come up so I couldn't ring back. It was at about 2:30pm if that was around when you got called then it is probable that it was Carmen.
I did my medical back at the end of Feb so that is all sorted, also I am well along with my loan already. I am of to London in a week to open the account. The BBVA chap is called Sergio, he is really helpful so you should be able to get it all sorted in a relatively short space of time. Big scary numbers on the paperwork though.
I did my medical back at the end of Feb so that is all sorted, also I am well along with my loan already. I am of to London in a week to open the account. The BBVA chap is called Sergio, he is really helpful so you should be able to get it all sorted in a relatively short space of time. Big scary numbers on the paperwork though.
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yeh that was around the time she called and her number came up withheld sinbad. Dont suppose you have sergios contact details? I emailed BBVA in london earlier but it could take ages to get through to sergio! Do they allow you to make repayments 18months after the course start or 18 months after the first payment goes out, or 18 months after the course start etc etc ?
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Hi there,
Flybe do not require Physics A Level, I did Maths A Level but not Physcis and hence I got throught the Flybe MAPS scheme but could not apply for the Thomson Fly one.
Best of luck!
socloss
Flybe do not require Physics A Level, I did Maths A Level but not Physcis and hence I got throught the Flybe MAPS scheme but could not apply for the Thomson Fly one.
Best of luck!
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Has anyone here been to a flybe/fte seminar? Was it worthwhile? Roughly how long did it last and does anyone care what you wear to it? Did many people take parents with them? Thanks 
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I went to one last year in march ppl_student. It was great, I would definatly recommend going. It might be slightly different than the one I went to (Don Darby presented and I think it was a guy called miguel from FTE) Both obviously talk up the companies they work for but you do get to see the plans and prospects of both and you can ask any questions you might have.
WARNING - IT WILL MAKE YOU WANT TO COMPULSIVELY TAKE OUT A HUGE LOAN AND DO FLIGHT TRAINING ASAP!
WARNING - IT WILL MAKE YOU WANT TO COMPULSIVELY TAKE OUT A HUGE LOAN AND DO FLIGHT TRAINING ASAP!
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Did anyone else get a call from Carmen yesterday asking if they could start in June rather than September? It appears there's a bit of a problem in that nearly everyone selected wants to start in September!
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I went to the seminar today for Flybe, and I'm shocked with the amount of money they are paying pilots.
Pretty rubbish in my opinion, after you pay your training your not left with much, especially when your hit with tax and national insurance.
Pretty rubbish in my opinion, after you pay your training your not left with much, especially when your hit with tax and national insurance.
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Mate I agree entirely, it is very low but what else can u do?! A job is a job and the salary will go up but for sure we will be scraping the barrel for a few years: rent/mortgage, loan, car, expenses, council tax, bills and a pint per month if you're lucky!
But then we all know this going into training and if you have a job straight away then consider yourself lucky.
But then we all know this going into training and if you have a job straight away then consider yourself lucky.
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As far as I see it, the work and requirements of becoming a pilot are pretty huge. You work hard, you earn well. It's seems that this isn't the case.
If you have the logic that "a job is a job" then go work for the civil service, you will get pretty much the same amount of money for half the hassle!
If you work out the loan with the training and the wages, they just don't seem to add up.
I own my own business, but at the moment I'm struggling to find whether I shoud stick with my own business and fly as a hobby or do it as a career.
Business = Money, no Dream
Pilot = Dream, no money
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If you have the logic that "a job is a job" then go work for the civil service, you will get pretty much the same amount of money for half the hassle!
If you work out the loan with the training and the wages, they just don't seem to add up.
I own my own business, but at the moment I'm struggling to find whether I shoud stick with my own business and fly as a hobby or do it as a career.
Business = Money, no Dream
Pilot = Dream, no money
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A good deal really
The deal is really very good.
- Flybe pay is in and around the normal turboprop salary for the UK. There are no full course sponsors anymore so you have to pay for your training yourself. If you take out a loan and pay for your training and then don't get a job for 6 months how do you pay back the loan? At least with the flybe scheme you have the extreme likelyhood of a job at the end. If you go it alone then you need another loan for£20k or more to pay for a type rating afterwards. Flybe pay for your type rating on a depreciating bond basis i.e. you don't need the cash up front. As far as the tax and national insurance goes - you need to speak to big Gordy at the exchequer.
As socloss has said
Shocked!
As socloss has said
But then we all know this going into training and if you have a job straight away then consider yourself lucky.
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Originally Posted by socloss
Did anyone else get a call from Carmen yesterday asking if they could start in June rather than September?
Originally Posted by preduk
after you pay your training your not left with much, especially when your hit with tax and national insurance.
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I feel, that in general the airlines are just taking the mic out of us.
Here we are putting our homes up in secure loans, risking bankruptcy, leaving our jobs and family behind to go study far distances from home, getting to the flight school and working really hard... for what? a £28,000 job?
It's a good deal compared to the rest of them, I am hugely dedicated to becoming an airline pilot, but I'm really annoyed that we are being taken for granted.
P.S
I'll probably regrett saying all this in the morning
Here we are putting our homes up in secure loans, risking bankruptcy, leaving our jobs and family behind to go study far distances from home, getting to the flight school and working really hard... for what? a £28,000 job?
It's a good deal compared to the rest of them, I am hugely dedicated to becoming an airline pilot, but I'm really annoyed that we are being taken for granted.
P.S
I'll probably regrett saying all this in the morning
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I admit it will be hard at first. There will be around £1000 a month to pay back for my loan when employment starts. I roughly calculated that on the starting salary, after tax, after my student loan repayments and after flight training loan repayments, pension contributions there will be roughly £6000 to live off for the first year. However, this does not include flight duty pay which I believe is around £3.5 - £4k PA. Then after the first year there is a salary increase of around £4k. Undoubtably it will be tough and I think I might have to live with parents for the first couple of years as there is no way I could afford £400-£500 a month for rent.
But I am happy, I am prepared to work hard and live off very little for the first few years. Im not driven by money (although lots would be nice!). I want to fly regional, I am very excited about hopefully getting to fly Q400 and I get to be home in bed most nights. As well as that, time to command in Flybe is probably very short, esecially with the on going expansion plans. Once we get over the hump of the first few years, all should be fine.
Money aint everything.
But I am happy, I am prepared to work hard and live off very little for the first few years. Im not driven by money (although lots would be nice!). I want to fly regional, I am very excited about hopefully getting to fly Q400 and I get to be home in bed most nights. As well as that, time to command in Flybe is probably very short, esecially with the on going expansion plans. Once we get over the hump of the first few years, all should be fine.
Money aint everything.
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