When did you start your training, and where are you at now?

[energie]

For some reason i'm feeling quite survey-frenzy today

When did you start your pilot training? and Where are you at now? (ie flying 737 for xxx airline)

I'm 25 now, and for some odd reason I am starting to feel too old to start my journey into this industry :S

[Rainboe]

energie, does it matter? What counts is you not everyone else! You have to weigh up the eventual benefits against the costs of getting yourself there. At the moment it seems the Canadian industry is in great doldrums benefits-wise, and that should be included in your deliberations, but better to make your own decisions based on you rather than draw too much on experience that is probably irrelevant to you.

[learboys]

Depends

Hi there
Well if thats the case folks like me should rather pack my bags and go. I've been involved in aviation for 18 years now, started when I was 18 and am a licenced aircraft engineer who didn't have the money or a rich dad, I only started flying when I was 26- finished my PPL over 4 years, I was told these words by a fellow "just fly, dont worry about the hours, they will eventually come" that is exactly what I did. I am now 36 and am writing my last ATPL subjects. As for work prospects well I have close to a 1000 hours now and being involved in maintenance I have been lucky getting hours, but never the less I'm living a dream. I am now currently unemployed as I have taken some time off to study and complete the exams.

What you must bear in mind, the aviation industry is full of surprises, there are various ways to get to your goals. Not all pilots start flying with the Airlines. Easy jet are amoung a few who take on low hour pilots amongs others, alot come out of the the charter industry. I met pilots who fly for the airlines who were crop sprayer's and lots more that were bush pilots. Airlines employ pilots up to the age of 45+. Its demands, a shortage of pilots and they shake the tree and if you fall out with the right hours they will employ you.

Aviation is a demanding job, and alot of folks dont realise it, if you dont like learning, well you not going to have alot of fun being a pilot. Once you start you will never stop, its like you never left school, there are always exams to write, getting new ratings on your licence and flight tests not to mention the costs. Aviation is a bottomless pit, you will pour alot of money in and it never ends. It boils down to spending a large fortune to make a small fortune,but the rewards, I'm sure alot of pilots will agree are worth every penny right down to the last cent.

I think if you read up you will find that being a pilot, it seldom happens where you just get a lucky break, but some do. Most have to go the long way, I am in no way trying to discourage you, merely trying to show you and highlight some of the pro's and cons. At 25 you still young and you have alot of flying ahead, I wouldn't give up so easily, if you really want to fly you will make a go of it, but bear in mind it takes alot to get to the top.


Have fun and enjoy your wings

[pilgrim flyer]

Got my JAA CPL/FI at the tender age of 46, FAA CPL/multi/IR the year before. Doing my JAA IR and IRI this year, am now 49. I wanted to fly from the age of 9 but allowed various diversions to be too effective.

Bottom line- if you want to do it enough you will, if not the flying world will get on fine without you! Who's loss?

PF

[Dream Land]

Not sure of your goals as a pilot but if you enjoy flying I'd say go for it, if you are a highly motivated type you can move up quickly, I am kind of a lazy type and still managed through the years, can't remember a flying job I didn't like!

Do as much networking as possible, aviation is a very small world.

[chasing767]

energie!

just go for it!

I'm 25 now, and for some odd reason I am starting to feel too old to start my journey into this industry :S

are U kidding? not to say that You may be too young but definitely (!) not too old, young bloke.
a friend of mine started his aviation carrer at the age of 32 with PPL and through his 30ies became ATP for some carier operating turboprops in Europe.He is the cpt now as far as I know ( haven't heard from him for 2 years or so).

stop pullin' our legs and move Your a....s.
good luck!

[energie]

Sorry guys.

Enough fishing for comforting words from me. I'll tackle these licenses one at a time! or by selling a limb at a time

but i have to say, it's nice to hear success cases, so keep them coming if you don't mind sharing!

[JW411]

1957 Scottish Flying Club, Perth, DH82A Tiger Moth. Just about to retire after almost 50 years of productive flying and I would do every minute of it all over again.

If you really want to do it then get out there and bl**dy well do it whatever it takes! Good luck.

[Start4&3]

I started flying at the age of 27 and after 10 years, I am now flying right seat on the 744 for a major airline in Asia. It's never too late, but I felt the same way when I was doing my commercial pilot training, I remember telling my instructor not to give me extra lessons because I don't have much time to waste.

[Akuji]

Hey start4&3,

Just curious where in Asia are you a pilot? ive always have a dream of flying in asia in the future. Would you say ill have the opportunity after i finish my integrated course?

Thanks

[window-seat]

energie

I didn't graduate from uni till I was 24 and then spent 5 years in an office job! Did my PPL in 2000 (age 29) and went on (after selling everything I owned - and then some) to get my fATPL in 2002. Did an FI course and some instructing in 03 before RHS with regional operator. Now RHS 757 with large charter company and lovin it!!!

If only I'd started at 25!!!

W-S

[Start4&3]

Originally Posted by Akuji

Hey start4&3,

Just curious where in Asia are you a pilot? ive always have a dream of flying in asia in the future. Would you say ill have the opportunity after i finish my integrated course?

Thanks

I fly for a major airline in Taiwan and my airline currently hire expat pilots with lots of experience; average total time of 4,000hours with some jet time.

[skysoarer]

Originally Posted by energie

For some reason i'm feeling quite survey-frenzy today
When did you start your pilot training? and Where are you at now? (ie flying 737 for xxx airline)
I'm 25 now, and for some odd reason I am starting to feel too old to start my journey into this industry :S

25 eh? Well I started my training at 25, and I'm 26 now and almost finished the course! (Cabair integrated student) ... Get out there and go for it! HSBC may pull the Professional Studies loan, so be quick! They may have already pulled it but worth a look or a chat with a local aviation friendly branch. i.e. Bedford or the central Oxford branch.

Sky

[energie]

That's great. it looks like after finishing the Cabair program, you will have your CPL + IR right? what's your next step?

[Flying Mechanic]

Got my CPL at 26.....first flying job at 30 (with 430 hours)...first job was bush flying in Oz(flew 182,206,PN68 and BN2), did that for 2.5 years.......then Caribbean for 9 months(flew 402/Aztec/Seneca)....now at 36 I am Captain on a Beech 1900 in the Middle East with over 4000 Hours.
Every job I had I knocked on the door. It took me 4 years post training to get my first job and in that time I spent every penny I had on flying/gaining hours......so dont give up!

[Pilot Pete]

Started PPL in 1997, age 29. Now 737 Left Seat wth Thomsonfly having previously been 757 rated with jmc, then Air 2000 and DHL before joining Britannia on 757 and 767 before moving to the left seat last summer. The 'full monty' story of my journey through training is a sticky on the Professional Pilot Training forum.

It can be done and you are younger than most starting out on this road!!

Good luck

PP

[haughtney1]

PPL in NZ 1991...CPL NZ 1996..flew the Bandierante, stopped flying went to university..emmigrated to the UK in 2000, converted licenses in 2002, Got a job flying B200, then full time C208, now right seat B757 ATPL...767 course on the horizon, and job offers all over the place !

[-8AS]

Haughtney1, we must be related! Did my PPL in NZ early 90's, went to University and continued flying completeing CPL/IR and FIR in '96. Did a bit of instructing and flew a C208B ad hoc, emigrated to U.K. in '98. Spent 2 years converting licenses (couldn't afford to do it any faster), instructed for a year after that, now a Training Captain on a B737-800. My how things change!

[haughtney1]

Yeah!!

You probably grew up down the street from me

[skysoarer]

Originally Posted by energie

That's great. it looks like after finishing the Cabair program, you will have your CPL + IR right? what's your next step?

Yep! You finish the course with a CPL + IR (with a multi-engine rating Only), and an MCC course. You can't go wrong with any of the major flying schools really, as they're all top notch. One thing that helped me with the ground exams was a login to Bristol Groundschool (http://213.48.96.23/atponline/jalo/index.asp. The feedback there is excellent, and *mostly* correct. It's my understanding that the Oxford feedback cd has been updated to fix some errors in my older cd, so that wasn't as useful to me personally.

I will be adding the single engine rating to my license, as it's not included in the package. That will let me do the normal single jo-blogs flying at the weekend thing, rather than having to hire a twin!

My next step? First time I/R pass please! I'm on a course with the flyBE sponsoree's from last year, and it sounds such a good airline to work for (perhaps not in money terms initially), so they will be receiving my first application. There is presently a BA scheme where, if you average 85% or better in your groundschool exams, I *think* 75% in flight tests after PT2, and a first-round I/R pass, your flying school can recommend you to them. First-round I/R pass includes if you Partial-pass then pass the resit.

The one thing I've found annoying is the Da-40 aircraft. They are much better now but, during the first block, more were in Maintenance than online so getting a flight could be difficult. They are lovely things to fly though, and powerful for a training aircraft, with a good panel. The DI's can precess quite a bit as they're air driven, and I swear they're ordered with Weetabix tokens. If you're thinking of starting with Cabair soon, you may do your twin training on the new Diamond Twin-star (Da-42). I know most of the instructors have trial-flown one brought in, but they're still on order I *believe*. The ones I've seen are fully EFIS equipped, and probably fly your I/R for you.

Overall, I personally recommend visiting all the schools and see how each works with you, and go with the one you like. 25 isn't too old...

Sky