Rj111

Hi people, i'm new here. I've been invited to stage two, though haven't booked yet.

I hear it's a seminar an interview and an aptitude test.

What is the interview like?

I've never had a proper job interview before so i'm quite curious. Do they ask some awkward, put-you-on-the-spot questions. Or is it more of a amicable just getting to know you type thing?

I'm very enthusiastic about the program so i figure i just need to get that message across.

jet2us

I know this question has probably been answered hundreds of times and if someone has a link to the section where I can find the answer it would be great, but can anyone give me a brief inside into the tech part of assesment? Am I right in saying there is only a 15 questions in 15 minutes maths section? Or is there Physics as well?

If so can anyone give me rough outline of what I should be brushing up on.

OAT selection has both and just wondered how it differs?

Cheers,

PS Well done to all those just got through - Hope NZ goes well!!

casino335

Hi,

Is it true that CTC has just changed its policy on not inviting applicants back for stage 2 resists? - to be honest, if it has, i kinda think it's a good move as they would now be just testing for innate ability rather than familiarity (i've had 3 cracks at pilapt, and many goes at the pilapt-prep which is a nice program, and i've improved my scores upon each attempt: i'm still useless thou). Also, the info on here regarding stage 2, is a massive give-away as to what you are going to face (i sorta feel i've sat stage 2 even thou i haven't applied yet).


i've been through all 70 odd pages of this forum and i can't find out how many people CTC take on yearly for their cadet scheme, except something on the pass rate being horrific like 3% : anyone with any ideas?

Thanks

Tall Boy

Well, now it's up to approximately ten cadets per CP and the CPs are pretty much sent out monthly i'm going to say about 120. Don't take this to mean that 120 people have been training over the last year - the CPs were significantly smaller up until CP 34, generally six per CP IIRC...

BitMoreRightRudder

WBV only two categories?!

And as for comments made by the "current cadet" I'll echo WBV and mr wingover - absolute rubbish. This thread is here to help those going to selection and its continued growth and popularity is testament to the fact that it is doing just that - helping applicants understand some of the process before actually attending a stage 2/3/4 day. If you don't meet the standard you don't get a place on the scheme. If you do get a place on the scheme you still may not make it all the way to an airline job, it has nothing to do with people 'faking' selection.

It isn't the first thread on the Wings scheme either, there was a similar one that spanned the first couple of years of the scheme's existence and it contained masses of info that helped all those applying. This thread is the continuation and it is just another form of research for those applying. It's about helping your fellow potential aviator; I received plenty of help from various posters when I was applying a few years ago, and I hope I might have given some useful advice to those who have PM'd me asking about the scheme since I finished it.

Thats what pprune is for!

Wing_Bound_Vortex

Yeah i'd say there were generally two sort of personality types, with the odd exception of course!

And you were always a special case old boy.........

Ditto the coments by BMRR and Wingover, preparation is the name of the game and helping a fellow potential aviator is just good manners and expected.

WBV

JAW656

Hello

Im going for stage 3 on the 8th. Ive trawled through all these pages many'a time but the timetable of what happens on stage 3 varies with different posts. I was wondering if anyone thats been down recently can provide me with some sort of idea as to the days organisation. Please

Cheers in advance

speedtapeking

hi guys n gals

With the new age discrimination coming in, how do CTC go on with there restriction of being less than 34 now stand ? do they have to remove this ? Or will it just mean that all those over 34 automatically will fail before they finish all the tests?

Deano777

Simple

They are a training organisation, they are not employing you, so they can set whatever criteria they like

This has been answered on here a few times before

Streety

Deano,

Sorry, but you're incorrect. The regulations apply to providers of vocational training courses as much as they do to employers.

http://www.dti.gov.uk/employment/dis...page26492.html

Regards,

Streety

casino335

Hi,

From my understanding, the new age discrimination laws mean that age cannot be taken into consideration when hiring, training or promoting people (i guess within reason). I suppose, if you argued that CTC is solely a training organisation and not technically an employer, and thus somehow exempt from the law, then i guess you would have to turn to easyjet (for example) who is involved indirectly with CTC and who do discriminate on age on their website (just a thought).

Whether age discrimination is a good thing or not, it's law and a fact of life now........ho hum

Anyway, enough gloom....has anyone heard of CTC not inviting applicants back for stage 2 resists (something to do with a change in policy)?

Tiger_ Moth

When I went to my stage 2 a few weeks ago CTC said they are not allowing resits. I don't know why, but they definitely aren't.

FlyingSpanner

Hi Guys,

I realise this has been covered before but I cannot seem to find it in the thread and was wondering if someone knows or can point out the pass rates for the various sections of the selection process.

I have managed to make it through to phase 3 and was wondering how many people fail at each section of the phases.

Thanks in advance.

Spanner

Bigaircraft

Hi, I'm not able to back this up but it is to my understanding that the pass rate of phase 3 is around 50 tp 60%, and the pass rate of phase 4 is around 85%

good odds eh? ha ha, although odds really dont have anything to do with it, its all down to you! well done on getting to phase 3 and good luck!

Bizjets

Hello,

Any chance to get more information about the interview at EGHH - Phase 2 ?
Is that only an interview or are there some tests too ?

Thanks, see you later !
Biz

Sky Wave

Bizjets

Suggest you read through all 1447 posts of this thread.

Phase 2 is not an interview.

SW

Reverand Lovejoy

To the best of my knowledge (which is limited on a good day),

Stage 1a - Application. Fill in online, wait a while. This one is simple (for CTC to select) as you either make the grade on paper or dont. Pass rate way up in the 70's I would guess. Probaly higher bearing in mind if you dont make the advertised standard then why apply?

Stage 1b - 4 questions sent to you and you have to hand write the answers and fax them back. A bit more tricky to analyse but still a relatively high pass rate.

Stage 2 - Computer based tests in the form of PILAPT software, then a maths test (could be in a different order). Figures are compared against roughly 2500 other pilots scores and then you are given a risk banding for training. I got a low risk for training but I know people in NZ that had Medium-low with no problems. Pass mark is about 20% and a new rule says no opportunity of a resit.

Stage 3 - 2 group excercises and an interview. Pass mark here has been quoted as 50-60% but I failed it first time round and passed the resit so not sure on the overall pass rate. You can be offered a retake but by invitation only and you must be close to the cut-off. CTC make it quite clear if you were close to this or not.

Stage 4 - FLight Breifing and Sim ride. Roughly 85% pass mark and a damn good day. You can be given a resit here if by invitation and you will find out the result by telephone call from someone at CTC.

Stage 5 - Not officially a stage but in my eyes is probaly the biggest hurdle. You get about 1000 things to sort out before you leave in terms of administration and paperwork, medicals, bloodtests, being measured for uniform, opening up bank accounts with specific banks at specific branches, insurance ect. Pass rate for this stage has to be somewhere in the low1% as it is a nightmare. DB at CTC will help though, she is an admin genius, which is good really as I very rarely have a clue as to what is going on

dahawg123

Wing Bound Vortex et al,

I see your point but I am sure you will agree that some of the posts on here go past mere preparation. I am 100% sure that everybody who applies to CTC prepares themselves in some way, shape or form, but being spoon fed the exact rota for each selection stage seems a little beyond that.

It is indeed true that CTC read and are interested in what goes on here, the subject of prune has come up in a number of staff-cadet meetings and the tone has generally been one of derision, prune generally being populated by bitter people (are you reading this, anyone from OAT - just kidding before the flame war starts!) and wild speculation regarding the selection proceedure.

Erm...anyway...back onto what I was originally saying, by all means help fellow cadets out, but somethings are best left to initiative. My own personal top tips are:

Stage 2:

Cant really practice for the PILAPT, except maybe a bit of flight sim? Practice some mental arithmetic for the test.

Stage 3:

Read up on partner airlines and be damn sure you know why you want to become a pilot!!! For the team exercises, be yourself.

Stage 4:

Relax, listen and enjoy!

And to finish, someone a few pages back asked if substandard people are getting in, well far be it for me to comment if anyone is substandard (I got in somehow!) but my point remains that the CTC selection is there for a reason, it is well designed, isnt there to catch you out and is very effective!

wildweasel81

Are you proud of that comment? Being honest, out of 10 what would you give yourself for maturity, for that comment?

Eh... it is. The whole point of selection is to select the people who will make it through training and to catch out those who won't.

It is not rocket science.

Bigaircraft

I know what you mean, I'm wrestling with the bank as we speak. DB's on holiday though so I'm on my own for a bit! 1%? god i hope not ha ha!