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The CTC Wings Scheme thread

Old 5th Oct 2006, 15:58
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Well done Reach! I am excited for you!

I know this has been a bit done to death, but as someone who has stage 3 very soon would you mind posting what it entailed and what you think they were looking for?

Do they still have the desert island scenario and the lego one?
Is the interview mainly based around you personally, with only limited questions on the industry and partner airlines?

Any tips much appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 5th Oct 2006, 23:36
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Oh for f$%#s sake

As a current CTC cadet can I please ask that people stop spilling their guts about the selection procedure? CTC have a great deal of trouble with people doing this as they are constantly required to change the selection procedures to avoid substandard people getting through.

Now I know you are only trying to help fellow aspiring CTCers but the best way to do this is to let the selection do its job!!! There is no point in faking it if you arent going to cope out here in NZ.

Also, be aware that CTC read this forum and are not impressed. If you do something like use your own name for your PPRuNe ID then they will hold you to account for what you say. So just be aware.

Here endeth the lesson.
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Old 6th Oct 2006, 10:45
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Angry Er.... what!?

Edited 6/10/6: I see now that one of the offending posts has been deleted - good call, and therefore - rant removed.

Good luck to all those applying

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Old 6th Oct 2006, 13:45
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Hi Enzo,

Im going for stage 2 on the 20th too but im driving down on the morning, an early start for me! Just hope the traffic isnt too bad!
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Old 6th Oct 2006, 13:47
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Originally Posted by dahawg123 View Post
CTC have a great deal of trouble with people doing this as they are constantly required to change the selection procedures to avoid substandard people getting through.
Are substandard people getting through, or are they just upset to be changing selection procedures?
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Old 6th Oct 2006, 18:19
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Awaiting stage 2 results 6th october

Hey,

Anyone outthere still waiting on results from todays stage 2?

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Old 6th Oct 2006, 22:38
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passed phase 4! woo!
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Old 7th Oct 2006, 08:39
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Talking

Well done big aircraft! Awesome feeling isnt it? See you out there!
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Old 7th Oct 2006, 15:48
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Originally Posted by iamtheone View Post
Well done big aircraft! Awesome feeling isnt it? See you out there!
your telling me it is! the facts haven't sunk in yet, too much to take it! don't know which CP I'm on yet, hoping to find out in the next few days!
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Old 7th Oct 2006, 15:54
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Originally Posted by Bigaircraft View Post
passed phase 4! woo!
Hi Bigaircraft, well done there! check your pm's,

rgds

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Old 7th Oct 2006, 16:52
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Well done

Well done bigaircraft! I know the feeling It's great!
Will definately meet in NZ!!
I'm off in 25 days!
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Old 7th Oct 2006, 22:27
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Guys, and esp. dahawg123,

Wouldn't worry about CTC having problems with people knowing what goes on in the selection, it still comes down to how you do on the day, and CTC are smart enough to understand and see through the prep you've done beforehand.

You get various types of people getting through, it's quite interesting to look at the guys that have made it as they seem to fall into two distinct personality types ( guys who's been through it all will understand what i mean! ) CTC know the type of people they want, and they will either spot that in you or not, you can't worry about it too much.

PS faking it and NZ isn't the problem, NZ on the whole is good fun and really not too challenging, it's when you get back to the UK that it really starts winding up, all still good fun but a lot harder work!

WBV
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Old 8th Oct 2006, 03:19
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Hi Guys, a huge congrats to those who have recently passed phase 4.

I passed in June and will be Joining the CP41 short course on October 27th. Is anyone else out there flying to NZ on the 27th????????
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Old 8th Oct 2006, 07:26
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Hi raza boy

I got my stage 2 result that evening, im going down for stage 3 on november 8th.

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Old 8th Oct 2006, 11:42
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I find it interesting that a current cadet is telling people not to talk about the selection! There is nothing you can gain from this thread that you wouldn’t from preparing for any competency based selection process, whether for a pilot cadetship or a marketing grad scheme, for example.
PPRuNe has been around for years, I first heard about it back when I was sitting in the old BA office waiting for my first round selection for their cadet scheme. How many CTC applicants and current cadets do you think found out about the scheme or chose to apply based on info from this very site? Quite a few I would imagine.
Secondly, CTC can't condemn preparation, as they themselves prepare cadets when they have interviews for airlines, and in the case of one airline, the have some very intimate knowledge when it comes to selection!
Thirdly, I don't think the selection has had any significant changes since its conception; the beauty of competency and teamwork based interviews is that it is based on intuitive action, and any amount of preparation can't completely conceal the actions and responses you will make in the interview stage. I have been on both sides of the fence for this type pf selection with other organisations, and trust me, it is very effective. So talk about what you like as far as I'm concerned!!
More interesting was the comment from Wing Bound Vortex about 2 distinctive types of personality on the scheme. I actually hadn't such a clear distinction, however it wouldn’t surprise me, the last company I worked for had exactly that, with a similar selection process. The basis for the distinction there was mostly on their attitude toward the company and scheme, some defined themselves on their position in the company on a prestigious scheme, and therefore developed quite arrogant tendencies, and some were just happy to be there. I wouldn’t be surprised if a similar thing was present in CTC.
The only comment I would make about this thread is that all you guys thinking about applying or who are in the selection are much more concerned about getting in than getting more details on the scheme. There are A LOT of cadets on here at various levels of training and in the airlines, who would be happy to give you very honest answers on what goes on in NZ and in the UK, job prospects, etc. So use the resource!
Try reading this for starters.http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...=239054&page=4
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Old 8th Oct 2006, 16:03
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Hi people, i'm new here. I've been invited to stage two, though haven't booked yet.

I hear it's a seminar an interview and an aptitude test.

What is the interview like?

I've never had a proper job interview before so i'm quite curious. Do they ask some awkward, put-you-on-the-spot questions. Or is it more of a amicable just getting to know you type thing?

I'm very enthusiastic about the program so i figure i just need to get that message across.
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Old 8th Oct 2006, 20:39
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I know this question has probably been answered hundreds of times and if someone has a link to the section where I can find the answer it would be great, but can anyone give me a brief inside into the tech part of assesment? Am I right in saying there is only a 15 questions in 15 minutes maths section? Or is there Physics as well?

If so can anyone give me rough outline of what I should be brushing up on.

OAT selection has both and just wondered how it differs?

Cheers,

PS Well done to all those just got through - Hope NZ goes well!!
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 00:23
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Hi,

Is it true that CTC has just changed its policy on not inviting applicants back for stage 2 resists? - to be honest, if it has, i kinda think it's a good move as they would now be just testing for innate ability rather than familiarity (i've had 3 cracks at pilapt, and many goes at the pilapt-prep which is a nice program, and i've improved my scores upon each attempt: i'm still useless thou). Also, the info on here regarding stage 2, is a massive give-away as to what you are going to face (i sorta feel i've sat stage 2 even thou i haven't applied yet).


i've been through all 70 odd pages of this forum and i can't find out how many people CTC take on yearly for their cadet scheme, except something on the pass rate being horrific like 3% : anyone with any ideas?

Thanks
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 15:05
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Well, now it's up to approximately ten cadets per CP and the CPs are pretty much sent out monthly i'm going to say about 120. Don't take this to mean that 120 people have been training over the last year - the CPs were significantly smaller up until CP 34, generally six per CP IIRC...
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Old 9th Oct 2006, 16:35
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WBV only two categories?!

And as for comments made by the "current cadet" I'll echo WBV and mr wingover - absolute rubbish. This thread is here to help those going to selection and its continued growth and popularity is testament to the fact that it is doing just that - helping applicants understand some of the process before actually attending a stage 2/3/4 day. If you don't meet the standard you don't get a place on the scheme. If you do get a place on the scheme you still may not make it all the way to an airline job, it has nothing to do with people 'faking' selection.

It isn't the first thread on the Wings scheme either, there was a similar one that spanned the first couple of years of the scheme's existence and it contained masses of info that helped all those applying. This thread is the continuation and it is just another form of research for those applying. It's about helping your fellow potential aviator; I received plenty of help from various posters when I was applying a few years ago, and I hope I might have given some useful advice to those who have PM'd me asking about the scheme since I finished it.

Thats what PPRuNe is for!
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