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[Luke SkyToddler]

Thank you for that Hamrah

At least Hamrah's identity is well known, no one can deny the man is a real live airline ops director and an honest bloke and if he says there are 14 G.A.S. cadets with Astraeus with job offers at the end of their course, then I have no doubt that is the case.

[number]

At least Hamrah's identity is well known

if you say so...

no one can deny the man is a real live airline ops director and an honest bloke

no one can deny that I am a real live pilot without job and an honest bloke

and if he says there are 14 G.A.S. cadets with Astraeus with job offers at the end of their course

if he sais so...

then I have no doubt that is the case.

I have doubts

[Chuffer Chadley]

Number

It's fair enough to have doubts about what you read on an anonymous forum.

However:

Hamrah isn't really anonymous to plenty of PPRUNErs. He exists, I have met him, he is honest (so far as I can tell), and he does do good work for wannabees.

Put your doubts on this particular snippet behind you.

Ciao for now
CC

[eagerbeaver]

Hamrah is the real deal, he did my LST a while back.
From what i know Storm/G.A.S are linking up with Excel. They merely offer a service and are not forcing anyone to take up their offer.
Less of the handbags aswell.

[number]

From what i know Storm/G.A.S are linking up with Excel

if you say so

They merely offer a service and are not forcing anyone to take up their offer.

Even soothsayers don't force anyone to take up their tarot card reading

[redsnail]

Hamrah is fair dinkum.
I have heard from a source independant of PPRuNe about the Excel deal.

[Danny]

number, you continue to be an idiot in the face of good advice by people on this bulletin board, especially some who are not in fact anonymous. Trust me, I know Hamrah too. He is one of the most knowledgeable people in this industry. He is a very experienced airline pilot and is currently Flight Operations Director.

Now, you either trust me because I own and run this website or you don't but when I say that you are being extremely silly with your posts on here you should be very careful about the next post of yours that I read on this thread. I wouldn't want to have to prove to you that I really am who I say I am.

And some people wonder why they are unemployed? Having a licence doesn't guarantee you a job. You have to have a personality too. By all means, get angry or upset because of your unfortunate position but don't take it out on others who are in a position to give you advice.

[number]

number, you continue to be an idiot

I've asked questions and showed my doubts about GAS and its spokesman, who did a lot of talking so far without offering any practical proof of what he was promising. Of course he is free not to prove it, but then at least can I be free not to believe him?

Trust me, I know Hamrah too. He is one of the most knowledgeable people in this industry. He is a very experienced airline pilot and is currently Flight Operations Director.

I'm sure he is and I haven't said anything wrong about him.

Now, you either trust me because I own and run this website or you don't

I trust you

but when I say that you are being extremely silly with your posts on here you should be very careful about the next post of yours that I read on this thread

I have just showed some doubts by asking questions which were never answered, I hope that those who sell promises/type ratings and then refuse to answer questions, will be warned with the same emphasis.

I wouldn't want to have to prove to you that I really am who I say I am.

You don't need it because you're not selling anything.

And some people wonder why they are unemployed? Having a licence doesn't guarantee you a job

I agree

You have to have a personality too

I agree

By all means, get angry or upset because of your unfortunate position

I'm not angry, but curious, and I usually don't take for granted what I'm told without a further verification, above all when it comes to spend plenty of money.

don't take it out on others who are in a position to give you advice

Advices are welcome, as well as doubts.

[Waggon rut]

It surprises me that there are still people out there who want to attack the very people who can give them a chance in this business. Hamrah, for instance has taken a lot of pilots from zero to shiny jet. There are very few people out there who do that.

[Hamrah]

Guys,

Thanks for your support.

Number is a wannabee, but with attitude.

Luckily, if you do a search of his postings you can find one where he posts an e-mail address.

It will make any future interviews interesting.

H

[Snigs]

Talk about burning bridges eh, Ham!!

With an upper age limit of 35, even if I had the money and inclination, I'm already out of the equation (unless instructing constitutes commercial experience, but why an age limit anyway????) However, I would like to know this:

Of the 14 G.A.S. cadets with Astraeus with job offers at the end of their course how many already have jet/t-prop experience, how many have more than 1500 hours or less than 500 etc etc?

I don't think that it's as simple as it seems, I'd like to get a feel for who's being employed in terms of experience.

If that's too sensitive information with respect to Astraeus for a public forum then an email or PM would be welcome.

Sadly, as Luke Skytoddler suggested, the SSTR's are here to stay and they're probably the only chance I'll get to graduate on to a 737 or similar. However I need to know more, to mitigate the risk of denying my wife the few nice holidays she already deserves.

[Hamrah]

Snigs,

1 Jet Captain
1 Jet FO
1 Turboprop FO
11 with less than 500 hours total time.

H

[Snigs]

Thanks,

The ratio is encouraging, I expect the 11 low houred pilots are fairly young, but that’s not their problem, it’s mine!

I still remember the comments made at the BALPA conference about age and the higher perceived risk of employing someone over 35 because they learn less quickly (which by the way I disagree with, surely intelligence has something to do with it as well). It seems that life experience is less valued.

Still, I’m encouraged by the stats. I’m still not convinced that a SSTR is right for me, I’m still confident that there is another way, but we’ll see how this year develops.

[CH4]

CH 4 still alive??? Any answers yet...

Yes trainer, I'm still very much alive. Forgive me for having taken a vacation over the Xmas/New Year period rather than staying at home to answer your questions. I'll check with you next time before I absent myself

By means of an update; there are currently in excess of 29 pilots, either in various stages of training or about to emabark upon their training through the Global/Bond scheme, ALL of whom have a firm job offer on satisfactory completion of their training.

Can I prove it? Yes. Do I choose to prove it? No. That is my perogative, not yours.

I haven't seen a shred of hard evidence of a proper airline involved with GAS and I still haven't seen or heard of a SINGLE PERSON who's been through the scheme and got a paltry hour in a 737 out of it, let alone an airline job

Luke, I don't owe you anything at all, least of all the proof you are demanding.

I will not publish the identities of those that have been sucessful, nor will I publish their pictures on any website. If some of them wish to come here and give a testimonial, then that is up to them. I rather think that they have much more to occupy their precious time with than to lurk here and read some of the drivel posted here.

If you care to go and read the earlier posts you will see that many of these questions have been covered before and the reasons given. I do not intend to repeat myself again.

You can believe or disbelieve, that is your choice; it still does not alter the facts. Whilst some of you wanabees have been occupying yourselves here ridiculing something you know nothing about, at least eleven of your colleagues have had the insight to find out about it and make the commitment. They will be the ones who used their time more profitably and will be shortly sitting in the right hand seat of a nice new shiny jet, building up their hours and putting money in the bank. Think about it. Shame that we have currently filled all of the positions that were open to the wanabees, for the time being.

The saddest part of all of this was that if you had taken the time to contact us directly, as was offered before, most of your questions would have been answered. The fact that it is probably too late for those that now have a change of heart is your problem, not ours.

My final comment is to dear Luke

That is hardly a 'corporate result' and even if it was, it's a bit late for anyone to turn round and say this is a scurrilous 'hearsay chat' site given the shameless publicity and free plugging that CH4 has been inflicting upon us for months

I reckon the corporate result has been very good. As for being too late; I guess that means you not us. Besides, all advertising here has been paid for; it's not free!

Number doesn't even rate a response. He needs a serious reality check.

The above is intended for the few, vocal individuals, who will know who they are (number may not realise). To all the rest of you wanabees, that read and digest what you see here; don't be disheartened. Prospects have not been so good for a long time.

CH4

[Luke SkyToddler]

That's a fair enough answer CH4 and I thank you for it.

Well done then, to the 14, or 29, people who paid their money took their chance and got themselves a jet job out of it.

And of course, condolences to those who paid their £850 and came up empty handed.

I will have to respect your right not to tell us what the ratio is of the one group to the other. I guess people will read as much or as little into

I reckon the corporate result has been very good

as they want to!

Personally, I was never in a position to apply for your scheme at the moment since I'm just coming up on my first turboprop command and I'm not even halfway through paying off what I've already spent to get into this industry. Furthermore, I still have a wee few months to go on my bond (a proper bond that is, ie one that requires no cash up front from the pilot!).

I still harbour vague hopes that when the time comes for the big jet job, I may manage to find an employer that doesn't require prospective employees to stump up their first year's salary as the price of admission.

However like every other wannabe on this place I still go all misty eyed when a big shiny jet taxis past my little turboprop, and should the job market continue to move in the direction it has done, then I am sure you may yet find yourself banking an inflation-adjusted £850 cheque from the Skytoddler account in another year or two

[number]

Guys,

I do apologize if I've offended somebody with my insinuous questions.
At the same I believe that wannabees still have the rights to go into what they are told without taking anything for granted.

Number is a wannabee, but with attitude

No, Number is a wannabee not particuarly gullible.
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People; we're talking about a lot of money here, are we allowed to have some doubts at least? After all we have to base ourselves just on words of who's selling, honest and genuine ones I'm sure, but still words.
A typical answer is: they don't force you to take that offer...
And my provocative reply is: even soothsayers don't force anyone to take up their tarot card reading
I see I've created a scandal with my sarcasm, and again, I'm sorry for that.
GAS is genuine? Good for them and for us.

Number doesn't even rate a response. He needs a serious reality check.

Censoring opinions and questions, even the provocative ones, is not a good thing.
It actually gives the impulse to go through some aspects which have been vague.

Can I prove it? Yes. Do I choose to prove it? No. That is my perogative, not yours.

I won't bother anymore.

[Puritan]

Snigs, you wrote ‘I expect the 11 low houred pilots are fairly young’.

Well I suppose it depends on what you mean by fairly young but I think it would be true to say that, predominantly, the people attending the Bond / GAS courses seem to be in their thirties or older.

Aside – don’t loose heart on the age thing, e.g. I certainly know of at least one other bloke who was nudging forty when he got is first break – thanks to Hamrah & CH4 – going straight from light aircraft and onto a B737 with GoFly.


Luke, you wrote 'condolences to those who paid their £850 and came up empty handed'.

But those people are not empty handed.

For the vast majority this was there first experience of attending a full-on airline assessment – which in itself alone would prove useful experience.

As a result of the assessment and subsequent debriefings, the assessee’s now have a much clearer understanding of where their present abilities put them - certainly in terms of them being able to transition directly to a jet and / or whether this would be a sensible idea for them to consider, or not.

Imho, just because - and for whatever reason - some who attend the assessment are not presently undertaking a jet-type rating does not mean that it has been a waste of their £850 – far from it.

[M.85]

puritain,
How does Parc or Bond find out if the interviewees are able to go directly to a jet?a part from the sim ride?
Can such people have the certainty over someone s fate/ability?
I doubt so..but i agree it may give a very good experience as what is expected during an interview..the price i believe is steep..

M.85

[Puritan]

M.85 w.r.t. 'How does Parc or Bond find out if the interviewees are able to go directly to a jet?a part from the sim ride?' - the very fact that you've written this shows that you seemingly have a bit to learn about the classic full-on airline assessment process.

Typically this is in three parts:

1). Psychometric testing - It is known that good / safe pilots exhibit certain personality traits and so tests are given to analyse these traits.

2) The simulator test – When Bond & GAS do these tests they are conduct by airline TRE's ( type rated examiners ), and highly experienced ones at that.

Nb. The level of knowledge / ability to both teach and conduct tests required to become a TRE are, putting it mildly, very high. That said, don't mistake the lofty heights of being a TRE with also of being a complete bastard. You can rest assured that the TRE's who conduct the assessments at Bond & GAS are superb blokes, veritably total aviation people who've been there, done it, and got the T-Shirt - the kind of blokes you'd like to go out with for a good curry and beer - but wherein they are also true aviation professionals.

When it comes to measuring somebody’s ability, the simulator component of the assessment ( in our case being run by a TRE ) has two intents:

A) To determine a persons present ability, i.e. do they at least have the basics ? E.g. how good is their instrument scan, are they able to keep ahead of the aircraft, do they posses situational awareness, how is their CRM, do they exhibit good judgement, etc ?

B) To determine their ability to learn, i.e. how adept are they at being able to quickly absorb, and then put into practise, new information ?! This is especially important when people are being considered for the transition to a jet type-rating. Nb. If you were to ask any of the ‘first-time on a jet’ students attending the TRTO type-rating course they will all tell you that the learning curve required is phenomenal !

Aside – did any of you see the program called ‘Spitfire Ace’ ( it was on UK Channel 4 on Monday at 21:00 ) where four low hour PPL’s were given a chance to compete to learn to fly a Spitfire ? If you did, it should not have escaped your notice that one of the foremost criteria in the minds of those making the assessment was the ‘learning curve’ of the candidates – and that this was in preference stick & rudder skills. QED.

3) The interview – Most airlines conduct interviews to determine, in a face-to-face manner, how well the applicants come across as people ( the point being that the last thing you’d want is to be sitting for hours-upon end in a tiny flight deck opposite some complete tosser – even if he can fly the aeroplane ! ).

Now given that the assessment is the same for one and all, the outcome is very much down to the individual, his / her flying skills, learning curve and personality.



W.r.t. 'Can such people have the certainty over someone s fate/ability?' – see my response above and, err, what’s fate got to do with it ?

W.r.t. ‘the price i believe is steep’ – well, if you can do it for less then please do go ahead.

Nb. To compete on a level playing field you will need to hire a jet simulator, a TRE ( or two - and they don’t come cheap ), provide psychometric tests ( remembering that you, or your staff, will need training on how to administer and mark these ), advertise your service / product, administer & coordinate the whole thing, plus manage various other sundry tasks and requirements, wherein to help you cope with the demand it's likely that you will probably need some permanent office staff ( at least two, or three, people ) and they will need an office to sit in, phones, computers, email, etc...... Oh, and as you’re in business, you’ll need to make a profit too; So, over to you !

[M.85]

Puritan..
Roger that.

M.85