'IM' Departs
 

'IM' airborne from Blackpool yesterday afternoon and departed for Norwich, may suggest a timely visit to Sprayavia???

VERY amusingly it seems even tho some on the Island have been stringing AJ along telling him they will give him business if he starts up again, they have ACTUALLY given the business elsewhere.

:D:D:D:D

I also know two individuals owed money at BLK who are will be trying to get a/c impounded if they ever take to the skies with AJ, and the Austrailan is very aware of the facts, even tho he cant shift the a/c.

To anyone stupid enough to risk another load of grief, if you dont know this already, just leave well alone.

I Notice that G-AYIM departed to NWI on Wednesday. I assume for a paint job. ANyone any idea where IM maybe heading to?

All I can say is thats its not heading to the bankrupt.

:ok:

Norwich paint job
 

I think you will find it and a few more are destined for the new AJ Airline.......... We will see.

be nice to see the budgies flying again tho eh guys?

especially if it provides a meagre income for anybody still looking.

took me a while to find something else, which has since folded !

found another post, see how long this one lasts?

or i may be going cap in hand for a budgie job !

maybe im a jinx?

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wring your cap ??
 

straight not level,i trust a man of your ability would never have to approach an airline chief executive ,wringing your cap,like a cringing milksop,to quote bradley hardacre !! I would rejoice in the ressurection of emerald as a major player in the UK freight business,however,i would hope those tempted to return to the operation,would be very well rewarded for their faith in the new business..by the way,very best wishes on your new position,well deserved !!

Agreed - really hope AJ is successful again - we need the 748s back in the UK skies again. What a shame Ops may be run again by someone that has caused so many previous headaches.

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'IM was still at Norwich 7/7/07.
Just thought you might like to know.
Be lucky
David

Does anybody have any new/futher info on the proposed re-start?

Also does anybody know where G-OSOE is heading for?

For the VERY last time, there really is NOT going to be a start up.

FACT.

How can you be so sure?

I heard AJ was on his way with the start up venture and it will not be long before the budgies are back in the sky.

Is that a squadron of flying pigs I see?

It would be great if the 748's got up and flying again. I just can't see it happening.

Hi Anne
How are you? Where are you working now? Someone said Sainsburys. If I hear of any jobs that might interest you I will let you know.It was a crime that Emerald went and I think it was down to one person, Wendy Crick who had it in for Emerald,
Have you discovered who EICGO is? You accused me of being him. I think the most likely candidate is F.Barker or possibly P Thompson.
Best regards

There was only one person responsible for the downfall of Emerald and his name has been well documented on this thread and it doesn't need re-igniting again.

The CAA may have been after Jem, but they can't take an AOC away without just cause. That lays the blame squarely at the feet of the AOC postholders.

It's a bit much to call our ex-TRE from Texas a pig!

He was heard on the RT recently - so watch out for the droppings!

Anne - lets hope they have the intelligence to re-employ you when they need a hand in the office.

I hear a lot of the old team are involved.

This is excellent and I applaud AJ if he does make a success this time around.

Will the start up be freight or pax ?

rumour has it,an ATP will arrive at blackpool from the continent in the very near future.is this part of the plan ?

I believe it is going to be freight only.

Afterall this is what made EA from the off set.

Would be exciting to be involved in such a re-start.

Sheds
 

I presume there's no chance of a shed coming back to BLK. They may look ugly but damn good workhorse and cheap as chips these days.:)

Wet pants...
 

Genuinely the funniest thing I've read in ages:

and the second funniest:

Now Lady d'Rection is worried that I've become prematurely incontinent, and I'll have to explain I've been reading this thread!

For me, viewing these forums is the closest thing I can find to the time my Victorian forebears spent watching the lunatics in the asylum...

Down to Wendy Crick?

I don't think so.

What if she did have it in for Emerald? She would still have to find something tangible to pin her prejudices on.

She may have had something to do with the demise of Emerald but if a certain CEO had not treated the CAA with the same arrogance and disdain that he treated staff and customers alike, I think Emerald would still be flying.

Wendy crick may have fired the bullets (and I don't know, not having worked for the Mobster for many a year), but if Mr "everybody but me is a w**ker" hadn't actually had them delivered to her by courier things may have been different.

One person, and one person alone was responsible for Emerald's demise.

Doc C

Doctor Cruces.

If you have not worked for MOB for many years. How can you make such comments.

Again this thread reduces to targeting and accusing.

EA thrived for all the years it did due to it's staff and MOB leading them, people like you seem to forget that!!

EA began to downfall after the ATP project and a certain incident in GCI.

Those there at the end know the score.

You have got to be kidding me.

I have never heard such utter bo**ocks spouted on this site.

Emerald never "thrived" it lurched from disaster to disaster relying solely on the good will of the crews and other staff.

The day to day management was extremely poor. I have never seen such demoralised people as the poor sods in Ops when something went slightly wrong and they were threatened, bullied and generally treated like dirt.

To say the place was amateurish would be the understatement of the century. The CAA should have shut the place down years before they did. It simply wasn't good enough for an airline in the UK. The incidents that were swept under the carpet, the merry go round of unservicable parts amongst the fleets, no parts, lies about dispensations from the CAA that mysteriously disappeared when they were challenged, slowness in paying expenses, threats to crews over safety issues, constant calls to ask for paperwork to be "altered", total disregard for the well being of crews over issues such as fatigue.

Need I go on. It wasn't an airline, but a circus and MOB was the ring master.

The CAA did their job, it wasn't their fault the company couldn't meet it's obligations.

With you being the ring leader against MOB.

A sour grape from one of those who left on not so good grounds.

All your posts are of similar taste.

Sour grapes....

Leaving Emerald was the best thing that ever happened to me. The cheque I got was pretty nice as well.

Ring leader against MOB?! Not really, but I was always pretty vociferous in my opinions on his competence.

Looks like I was proved right.............

Maybe if some other members of the Emerald crews had had the nuts to stand up and be counted, the company could have been better and would still exist today and you might still have a job.

But it's easier to look elsewhere for blame isn't it.

It is all a personal attack on one man who ran a company for over a decade.

I am not interested, it is unjust and wrong.

All i have an interest in is the apparent up start.

Personal attack? May be, but in this case it is well deserved. I wouldn't be as forgiving as you if one man destroyed the company I worked for and put me out on my ear, putting my house and family at risk.

But maybe some people are different and they have rosier spectacles than I do.

It wasn't just MOB's fault. You are quite correct in that.
All the spineless people who let him do what he wanted can also shoulder some of the blame.

The owner of the company also deserves a shoeing. I cannot believe anyone who got burnt first time around is willing to go through the same thing again.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Anyone thinking of leaving a proper airline job to go back to this, should be sectioned.

AVIATOR 2,

Lady d'Rection has threatened to put me into incontinence pants if you keep posting! :uhoh:

...and for the record, Wendy was only one cog in the machinery that ground away for years before finally pulling the plug. :cool:

Could you name one of those years? :ugh:

lots of mudslinging going on...does anyone have any credible information on a possible re-start of emerald ??i believe there is room for another freight operator in the domestic UK market.if emerald do ressurect,what contracts can they expect to secure,bearing in mind the rapid demise last may.i know several of the pilots who enjoyed the emerald operation,despite its failings.not so sure whether any of them would get involved again,unless there were cast iron guarantees and a cash upfront incentive,not to mention a decent remuneration,inline with what the market is paying current freight pilots.

Two words I certainly never expected to see sharing a gap between full stops in a thread about EA. :cool:

This thread is nonsense.

It misses the point completely of those who lost jobs and those who want to see the budgies back up in the air.

It is just a personal attack thread as bermuda states 'mudslinging'.

This thread has nothing to do with the start up. It was originally started when Emerald was still going.

Why don't you start a new thread on the potential start up rather than resurecting this old one.

But I have to say, I reckon the chances of getting the 748's back in the air is pretty much zero.

Not because they aren't suitable for the freight market, but because no-one is going to give AJ a contract after the whole Emerald debacle. All the big freight companies have long memories.

Why would they risk being let down again? Remind me again how many contracts were lost in the last couple of years of Emeralds existance..... Small hint, it was a lot.

I think it's probably about time everyone moved on. Certainly all I know who were capable of doing so have.

Why on earth would anyone take the risk of going to work for that bunch of incompetents?

Anyone who's worked for any sort of half decent company knows how rubbish it really was. Sure it was fun sometimes, but that was purely down to the crews.

I think back on my time at Emerald as a learning experience. It changed my perception of how bad things can get, but I learnt more about flying there than at any other time in my career.

The main thing that I'll remember is how not to do anything. I just have to think "what would Emerald do" in any situation and then do the opposite. SO far it's worked pretty well!

"Why don't you start a new thread on the potential start up rather than resurecting this old one".

Whats the point? I will only be hijacked by the likes of you. Stopped looking at this thread a long time ago.

Oh the irony.................

Say it again Slowly sums it up perfectly.

Fair enough, there is a lot of sentementality from people who put in a lot of effort to make EA work, but it wasnt only the staff who lost money, taxi companies, engineering contractors, one man bands etc etc etc, as I have said before (and it brings me no pleasure) there are people out there just waiting for an ex EA aircraft to turn up on their ramp to snow plough it in, and I know of one MD of a company who is making it his personal mission to make sure this doesnt work, I sympathise with him, he had to lay off staff because of the money that was owed. Most of the crews got jobs quickly, some others effected by this have not been so fortunate.

This simply isnt going to work, for a start the big fuelling companies are asking for cash up front, as is everyone else, with the margins being so tight in this industry that makes it very hard to get going, another concern I hear is lack of spares (plenty of rubbish without Form 1's before anyone starts) around now for the 748) coupled with RM 'apparently' vowing NEVER to even give them accreditation to bid on contacts its a very very grim picture.

Like I have said many, many times before, stay well away.

G-OSOE got some air under her wings today one of 6 748s which are going AJ