A Sad Day
 

Having worked for Emerald back in 94 or so it's a real shame that they are no longer around.
Good luck to everyone in finding suitable positions.

Tres bien
 

For any drivers out their. A Spanish outfit is taking over the remaining Westair 748s.(3) Running between Barcelona / Palma & Ibiza. They have a former EA engineer working with them for a short while. The guy from Oz ? Well the plan is to get them S to fly. Not for him but I have heard that a certain AJ is looking at LPL. 4 a/c at first then Maybe 2 more.

January 2007 onwards the grapevine says.

May even eat my hat if that happens.

Rumour also has it that the MOB is desperate so he is to resurrect with AJ as his only choice. Obviously cannot move on. :suspect:

What happened to people making a fresh start. Onwards and forward should be the case not backwards.

Speednewsdotcom lists the following as being available:

"IAP Group Australia: five ATPs and 15 HS748's"

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which part of EA ? Flyjem or freight services ?

Dont get too excited, no formal aproach has even been made to the CAA.

2 aircraft will be involved to start off with, but with the RM vowing NEVER to be associated with certain individuals again, just who would they fly for ?? Most of the work has been taken on by other companies with newer more reliable aircraft.

A little birdy tells me that the application will have to be a totally fresh piece of paper AOC submission and that can take a long time, a bond will also have to be lodged with the CAA (stanndard practise) and its unlikely that someone being investigated by companies house and HMC will be allowed to place that bond.

Cant imagine that any FOI's will want to take on the hot potato, and for the unfortunate individual that does EVERYTHING will have to be done by the book, and by all accounts the AOC post holders that are being mooted may not be acceptable to the authority, particularly on the engineering and quality side.

Whilst those out of a job may be tempted to join aborad, there are many many people determined to make sure that certain individuals never run an airline again, EVERYTHING from this new outfit will have to be paid cash in advance, they will get no credit anywhere, behind the scenes there are serious revenue investigations going on, you cannot go into administration the way JEM have done and come out of the other side expecting all those people you owe money to will let you do the same to them again.

Best to move on, all this venture will bring is false promises, more lies and more unpaid bills and salaries.

Going once going twice SOLD
 

http://www.iomonline.co.im/ViewArtic...ectionID=870&A rticleID=1839296

I is rumoured on another site, that the 360's are going to BACS and AJs new airline to be Southend based, with the ATPs and 748s to be delivered at 2 aircraft per month from January 07. It would appear that the new Australian company will do the maintenance on the fleet at Blackpool, supposedly on a third party basis.

"all this venture will bring is false promises"

How true. I'm beginning to find this is applicable to other Cargo Airlines as well. I know I like me gardening but I have never been led up so many garden paths in my whole life compared to the last few months. :ugh:

Hey Pat, saw a good one this afternoon whilst passing an industrial estate in Flint - a fleet of wagons with Emerald LGV Training written down the sides. Not setting up shop are you?? Hope you are well mate :ok:

Opsqueen, have you tried BAC Express.

Surely with their fleet about to triple they must be recruiting ?

:confused:

Since the link above doesn't work (with me at least), I thought I'd copy relevant parts of the text here:

Published on Wednesday the 25th of October:

"EMERALD AIRWAYS: FLEET SOLD
THE fleet of aeroplanes operated by failed airline Emerald Airways have been sold to an Australian firm.
It is not clear what the company plans to do with the aircraft – which include ATPs, HS748s and Shorts 360s – or how much the deal is worth.

Administrator KPMG, called in after Emerald ceased trading, confirmed a deal has been reached which will see the fleet sold.

The deal with PTB (Emerald) Pty Ltd is expected to be completed next month, if conditions are met.

In addition to some 30 planes, including an ATP siezed by Ronaldsway airport because of unpaid airport fees, it is expected the remaining staff of 26 will be transferred to the buyer when the deal is completed.

The KPMG spokesman said a separate deal with another buyer for Emerald's properties, in Blackpool and Liverpool, is under negotiation.

The airline, which enjoyed a £25 million annual turnover, was grounded in May after the Civil Aviation Authority suspended its operating licence.

The CAA said Emerald 'no longer satisfied' its licence requirements.

With its income stopped, the airline was unable to meet costs and was placed in administration. Two weeks later 113 of the 200 staff were laid off.

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I say again

"talk about being led up the garden path" - twice:*

dont be stupid
 

please dont think things will be better as long as the same people are involved things will allways be as they were -leopards never change thier spots.I cannot believe some people think this is a good thing your really want people like MOB working in your industry ?.They will fill you with the usual bull---- and sh-- on you from a great hight .If anyone works for these people who worked for them at emerald then you deserve what you get cause you will get it

Hello Mr Gimp

Quite right - but it must be highly unlikely those involved previously will be making a comeback into the limelight.

Let's just get some of those 748s back into the UK skies again.

Any more news on the AJ & MOB Venture? Nobody even know's what he is up to these days so my guess is they are just rumours and over reactions.

Do you know how sk is Opsqueen?

Haven't got a clue darlin'

Who is the Spanish outfit? Do they already have an AOC.

yes it would be nice to see the old bus back in the air .As for the other idiots well don't be so sure as you'll be aware they have no interest in people as human beings .They will just use and abuse as normal .This Australian outfit has obviously been given the emerald welcome pack .If they new the truth they would walk away as anyone who has dealt with them in the past would .They obviously havent seen this site ?

Maybe its just me but the "new" airline being called ptb(emerald)pty is maybe a bit too close to the "original".I cant see either ronaldsway or Liverpool releasing any of the A/C untill a settlement over unpaid bills is reached,I wonder what condition the ATP and 748 parked on the spur al LPL are in now?

I would like to see the budgie flying again, but not over my house... i used to set my alarm to those noises, unless of course the IOM was fogged out!

:D
I know what you mean. My body is so conditioned over the years to being woken up at 0330 or thereabouts with the odd 748 coming back that I still keep waking up, even though it's so quiet now!

Happy Days bud ......

Have you not found anything else yet? This aviation lark its a mugs game!

No - see my posts above re being led up the garden path by 2 cargo operators all summer. Could write a book about that lot. Weeks/months wasted and JobCentre not happy bunnies. Doesnt help when you have one of your 748 colleagues trying to stitch you up in Scotland in the first place, but he's had the last laugh anyway now.

I suppose this next comment is more pertinent on the Interviews site, but please, all you Companies out there, do not ask people in for interviews and promise them the world, when in actual fact there isn't a vacancy in the first place. The JobCentre does not like it and it does not do your street cred as a Company any good at all.

Yes, I will now be coming out of Aviation completely. With what I have just experienced over the summer and practically been bankrupted by these Companies and their false promises, obviously the future with these people would hold nothing better than Emerald had to offer, but I had a fantastic job at Emerald - I know is was b----y hard work and extremely trying, but it was (from a Secretarial point of view) absolutely great and I wouldnt hesitate in doing it again (no comments needed please re the higher Management as I am only talking about the work content here). Anyway I think 31 years is enough now to be involved in Aviation. There isnt any way to get back into Air Traffic as there's too much of a Peel versus ex Serco staff on at the moment. I know I have joked about it before, but I am really on the way to ASDA. At least there is stability within that organisation (people always will need food).

Cor, that was a bit of a marathon!! Hope no-one fell asleep.

Tara
Anne

at a guess i would say its stellair

gulfstream 1 freight operation...in fact they are the ones who leased UV from Emerald for a while

Spanish Outfit
 

The company taking the 748's from Westair are called CAN Alaire.

Operating out of Madrid and Barcelona if memory serves me correctly.

Some of our ex 748 crews are flying for them nowadays......

TTFN :)

OPSQUEEN,er, I think I just realised who you are,Ta for all the help, you're a Diamond.:D

Ops queen sorry to hear of your predicament... indeed stability is the order of the day. i am sure you will be sorted very soon.

good luck for the future!

Thanks for all the messages everyone

xx

:ok:

Liverpool & Coventry 748's being flown to Blackpool next week

can you be more specific ?? wonder who is gonna fly the 748?

Guess a fly by is out of the question? ha ha

Liverpool to Blackpool next Monday
Coventry to Blackpool probably next Tuesday

Crews sorted

Gutted would have loved to have seen these but duty calls... whos flying them... would love it to someone like Roley.!

Wonder if the respective Airports have been paid for any unpaid fees and charges???

Distinct possibility otherwise I can't see any Airport releasing the aircraft. Cant wait to see it get airborne again.

Hope so. Formation take off for the 2 from LPL :)

Out standing fees must have been paid no airport would let an aircraft depart without them being sorted out.

The amout at some of the airports must be very large sums any way, so we can only wait and see this week but dont hold out for to much.

Now wouldn't that one be good? Cant really see a 748 and an ATP in formation though.....

Am due to meet the 748 crews in Blackpool afterwards.

Ops Queen, Sorry to hear of your problems in finding work i guess its times like these we find out who are real friends our..Have you got any idea what time the a/c are leaving tomorrow as i would love to see them. Also whos flying them..

PM on the way E