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Btw as much as I know jeddah is the only base (beside paris( a340))

Terrible, absolutely terrible place, btw are those camel statues still standing at the roundabout on the way to Rose Village from the airport?
(Though I'm not really sure I should be using upper case letters when referring to rose village!)

Very, very glad I'll never ever see that place ever again, ever!

Had some very enjoyable times at Rose Village. The restaurant was great and having the library next door it was a very civilised transition for some after dinner relaxation. Pity about the Hungry Jacks near the yacht club!

The swimming pool area was excellent and some wonderful friendships made with the nordic dolls of Air Atlanta.

BBQs with a bit of home made red wine and tasty steaks from the supermarket.

Paradise !

Indeed also enjoyed my time in Rose village, don't recall having any red wine mind:ok:

Hope I will enjoy it too, just starting course on monday :)

Rose village ?? There hasn't been a rose village in 8 years, y'all going over to Azzam. Where's that ? hope you enjoy it. :{

Flaps was aware of that, I was there in 1995:)

They were still talking about Rose village when I left last year, must have been pretty good there. Mind you, I spent a lot of time at the Al bilad, by the sea. My second home for many years :ugh:

Triklop have you got the confirmation for the groun school on May 14?

TRIKLOP check your PM

B747-400 Type Rating Course (TRTO) with Airborne Personnel Ltd | 473427
Did anybody get a call for this assessment?

A330's
 

Does anybody know when are the next 330's supposed to come if any ??

Thks

Air Atlanta flight attendants saved my bored butt during Hajj. I was stuck in a hotel they were on a compound on a golf course.

Hi All,

I am considering applying for this position via the agency confair, could anyone let me know what the actualt roster is like i have seem lots of different examples, also roughly how much money you get at the end of each month and on average how much time you get at home each month???

any help greatly appreciated

Back many years ago when Olie Smith run the show AAI was the best.
Rose village has been closed for many years.
AAI was always good back then.
Problems I seen progressing was the flight attendant managers they slowly installed into crew management positions.
Trolley dolly would try and force you do what they were never qualified to do, such as flight plans duty days etc.
Doubt there wlll ever be another Ollie.
Best manager they ever had.

Employees concern
 

Air atlanta kets you work like slaves. No benefits whatsoever. No job security as they enforce the so called forced vacation. Off base and you have no pay. Not for a career guy with a family to feed. Looking also that they pass the IOSA but they they are not keen on the human factors issues. E.g. Fatigue, overwork, straight duty for crew and ground staff. All precursors of a big accident. So goodluck if you join this wretched airline,. Airborne and mountain high sucks too.mworst agency ever

AAI
 

Just few personal thoughts on the subject. Air Atlanta is one of the largest ACMI operators with basically one only big customer in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

They have been in business for more than two decades and one of the reasons is their capability to adapt to a very harsh environment with constantly changing priorities. Their secret recipe is a bit of Icelandic "can do" attitude, their stamina, all mixed with the contractors' flexibility.

The permanent staff are on a different contract and they need that to support the operations in times of low season. When things pick up, they call the mercenaries back, which allow the company to inflate and deflate as quickly as the Customer requires. It is not really their fault, it's really the nature of the operation they run.

Sure I agree the company lacks a bit of human touch, but on the contrary you know from day 0 that you are only a contractor and what you see on the contract is what you get with no surprises. In more than 2 years with AAI, I never had to chase them once for money.
On the contrary and in no particular order, Training, destinations, manuals, ground staff, accommodation, IT they are excellent and all go in the plus side for me.

The only reason why I left was job stability as I needed a more steady cash flow and could not afford the ups and downs of the contracting job, but I have only good memories of my time there with still lots of friends also among the Vikings.
Just my two cents on the topic.
Alby

Surly AAI have a Chief pilot who has the t:mad:s to stand up to bulling management. A chief pilot that is doing his job and standing up for the interests of all the pilots. From your post, it appears not. Maybe the so called "Chief pilot" is just another management puppet, masquerading as a chief pilot. In my day a chief pilot was just that, looking after the interests of the pilots and protecting them from a lot of the BS you have described. If he couldn't then he resigned the "post".

A 330 offer
 

Gents,

am in contact with AirAtlanta, they don´t say much but it might come a "chance" to get hired in Jeddah - i got a few questions:

-is the crew on a 4weeks on and 2 off or is it 6/4
-is it true that there is no payment during the off period
-for transition from A 320 to A 330 is it payed by the Crewmember himself or is there a bond, for how much is that, or how long is the bond
-Do they upgrade the FO´s?
-do they just work on Wet Lease and are they all the year over based in Jeddah
-is the crew based in a hotel or do they have to look for their own appartement
-how many flight hours can you expect to fly during one year?
-is the flight from and to work payed
-how much can the FO expect salarywice
-finally, how is the interview, where and what is asked

I read there are some other posts from AAI, but some of them are outdated or i can´t find them, if my questions are answered somewhere please PM me where to find.

I didn´t go threw the agencies, i know somebody in Jeddah, but he is not working for AAI

i am so glad to see level 6 worked wonders for the pilot group

Since when did Air Atlanta start operating these two aircraft types in Jeddah?

Air Atlanta does have one A330, TF-EAA

Air Atlanta Icelandic A330-223

Probably ValK was talking about moving up from a 320.

Anil

@mutt
TF-EAA A330 since July 2013

Thanks, it was the 320 that confused me.... :)

A 330
 

yes moving up from A 320 to A 330

got post yesterday, will definitely get an interview, they wrote they will give my name also to the agency they work close with......by the way who is this agency?

got some good feedback from guys who flew for AA but:

-what is the salary per day as contractor?
-how is the interview, any actual questions or SIM profiles?

am expecting to get invited soon, any PM appreciated also about general experience to fly for AA (RoutNetWork out of Jeddah, Upgrade posibility and so on)

Rgds

Interview in December
 

Gents, can anybody give me a good idea what to expect on my interview, it will be in December?

-What will be asked
-what is the sim about
-usually after interview, what time they expect to start to work for them?
-Got a few answers but nobody said how much exactly is the pay?
-Most probably i´ll fly the A 330 - how many flight hours i can expect a year: will it be cargo or pax or both?
-for A 330, will i be solely based in Jeddah, which hotel?
-do i have to pay the CCQ myself from 320 and how much will that be?

would be great to get some answers, thanks, or maybe somebody else is attending the interview?

greets

AAI only has 1 A330 and it is flying for Saudia like all other AAI aircrafts Exept the A340 that is flying for Air Madagascar, you will be based in Jeddah and the hotel is Crowne plaza

hello folks,

330 FO here.

Can anyone give some info on the position with AAI?

Thanks in advance.

The Contract only allows you to chose your time on/off if you opt for the Worldwide option which carries a lower daily fee than the fixed four weeks on and two off and generally has a minimum time on base of 3 weeks.
On the 4/2 there is a yearly holiday allowance of 30 days (unpaid) and is by request.
The only exception is those who have a FIA contract (Icelandic pilots union), mainly Icelandic nationals and they operate 21/21.

All Accommodation, travel and transport costs are covered and arranged by AAI.

Application
 

Hey Guys,

does anyone know how the chances are to get an assessment date? I applied via Mountainhigh last month but haven't heard anything except the application has been forwarded. Is there any need for pilots right now?

Thanks,
Learjet-60-XR

I worked for AAI 6 years.
L-1011 and 747.
Was the best job I ever had looking back over 30 years now including the military
We flew to places that most never see, even the bad places like Nigeria contracts after 911 we all managed to have a good time flying.
They paid well on time every time,
Unless something changed dramatically this is a good company and will always be in my retirement days as the best I ever flew for.
Thanks AAI for the good times the flying and the salary, but most important thanks for treating all crew members like family.
Many charter airlines could learn from you.




Best job i ever had.

Earl

Good for you, that you were treated so well. I am in a position to inform you, others were not treated so well. The cancerous nepotism among some of the "management" was something to behold. I am not referring to the Icelandic's as I type this.

Earl - you must know me. AAI was good to work for when Arngrimur ran it - after he sold it the rot set in and it became a very unpleasant place to work. Money wise there were problems with salary cuts, when I was off sick it took months to get sick pay.did not enjoy the last few years I spent with them. Nigeria certainly sorted out the men from the boys. Only place I ever needed bodyguards to get to work!

Hear, hear, that goes for me too, exusaf.
I was there for a while, at Rose Village, in Paris, Manchester, KL and the Lagos experience......

What did you expect? It's an Icelandic airline with I presume predominantly Icelandic management. You were there as hired help because they had positions to fill & you took it. Nobody forced you to sign up now did they?

Ah, so overt racism is totally fine by you then. Pj?

at least we have pprune these days; in times past one only discovered unpleasant facts like that when it was too late!

No, not at all. How dare you imply I am racist. Where does race come into this exactly? Are the Icelandics a "race"? Er NO.
It's their airline and they employ who they want on the different T&C's individuals accept. Good for them. Nobody forces any "outsiders" to sign up, so, as the saying goes perhaps people should either "shut up or F off...."

That's not racism. It is nationalism.

Exactly.
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PJ - you keep referring to AAI as an airline - it is not,it is an ACMI leasing company which rarely operates an aircraft out of Iceland.