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Dhl & EAT merger
Deuche post, now owner of Dhl has shown intention of only wanting one airline for its European operation. Word has EAT will be the the airline and Dhl air will merge. Early days at the moment but does not look good, as we all know mergers mean cost cutting.
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So, things are looking bad then for Dhl and that may explain all those b727 at such places like Lasham and some once at sen and there have also been seen at stn before now, Is this just because no work and thier maybe trying to sell them. So you are saying that this other airline will buy out Dhl and rename them EAT. There is just one querey I have will this company EAT use Dhl's old 727's and there 757's and the 146's in the airline or will they get shot of them, or will they put some of these in service and take some for scraping or selling or what ever they will do with them? Can you please give me Dhl's and EAT's website or somone I can ask about the prospectsfor the future of Dhl.
Come on Dhl you can hold out a bit longer can't you?
Come on Dhl you can hold out a bit longer can't you?
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I don't believe in massive jobs cuts, for pilots and F/E from the two airlines.
But, the 72's will be phased out this year. Definitely. And you know that these old ladies are driven by subcontractors (AA). So what future for these chaps ? A permanent contract with DHL Air, or a mass redundancy ? Who knows ?
Well, anyway, I'm going for a pint. Definitely.
But, the 72's will be phased out this year. Definitely. And you know that these old ladies are driven by subcontractors (AA). So what future for these chaps ? A permanent contract with DHL Air, or a mass redundancy ? Who knows ?
Well, anyway, I'm going for a pint. Definitely.
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Ironbutt,
The facilites in EMA can hardly be described as "just built"; it's been there for a couple of years now. DHL Air occupies some offices in the building, but the majority of the site is used for handling freight. When the facilites was built, DHL Air was still far from becoming reality. All maintenance on DHL Air 757s are already done by EAT in BRU.
I too have heard rumours of merging DHL Air into EAT, and from my point of view it makes sense. Why have double administration and the associated costs? Why have 2 757 chief pilots, 2 Ops Directors, 2 Crew Scheduling departments, 2 Finance departments etc etc etc? I belive DHL Air was set-up to provide a UK based carrier, and even if merged it should not imply that DHL Air crew would have to relocate to BRU. EMA is the second biggest DHL Hub in Europe, and with the limited space available in BRU it would make sense to have a second crew base. Perhaps EAT would have a small affiliate office there, who knows.
But all this is rumours, the only thing we know is that the next 757 to be delivered will be in the new yellow/red livery. Thankfully we mainly fly at night, so the visual impact will be eased somehow
The latest, and I must hasten to add so far unconfirmed, rumour is that DHL Aviation will be integrated into DHL Worldwide Express, or DHL Express as it will be called in the new year. As with the merger of DHL Air and EAT, the goal seems to be cost reduction by eliminating double administration. Again, makes kind of sense. Good thing is that DPWN knows next to nothing about aviation, so hopefully they'll let us keep on doing what we do without too much interference.
The facilites in EMA can hardly be described as "just built"; it's been there for a couple of years now. DHL Air occupies some offices in the building, but the majority of the site is used for handling freight. When the facilites was built, DHL Air was still far from becoming reality. All maintenance on DHL Air 757s are already done by EAT in BRU.
I too have heard rumours of merging DHL Air into EAT, and from my point of view it makes sense. Why have double administration and the associated costs? Why have 2 757 chief pilots, 2 Ops Directors, 2 Crew Scheduling departments, 2 Finance departments etc etc etc? I belive DHL Air was set-up to provide a UK based carrier, and even if merged it should not imply that DHL Air crew would have to relocate to BRU. EMA is the second biggest DHL Hub in Europe, and with the limited space available in BRU it would make sense to have a second crew base. Perhaps EAT would have a small affiliate office there, who knows.
But all this is rumours, the only thing we know is that the next 757 to be delivered will be in the new yellow/red livery. Thankfully we mainly fly at night, so the visual impact will be eased somehow
The latest, and I must hasten to add so far unconfirmed, rumour is that DHL Aviation will be integrated into DHL Worldwide Express, or DHL Express as it will be called in the new year. As with the merger of DHL Air and EAT, the goal seems to be cost reduction by eliminating double administration. Again, makes kind of sense. Good thing is that DPWN knows next to nothing about aviation, so hopefully they'll let us keep on doing what we do without too much interference.
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Hate to say it, but it makes sense to have some departments merged in EAT and DHL Air, such as Navigation Services (woefully inefficient in DHL Air). Lots of useful cost saving and improved safety and efficiency, with no job losses among the pilots. 
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That's a terribly selfish statement. Are you of the belief that a pilots life and job is more precious than a "mere" office worker? If Air and EAT were to merge, with the resulting cuts in admin staff, you couldn't care less?
Not here for a rant, but has it occoured to you that much as an airline can not function without pilots, nor can it function if any of a range of other departments were not there. It is after all team work, or what?
Not here for a rant, but has it occoured to you that much as an airline can not function without pilots, nor can it function if any of a range of other departments were not there. It is after all team work, or what?
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Or, perhaps, they won't merge...And Deutche Post will settle a brand new airline, based somewhere else. In Germany, for example.
That'll be a excellent opportunity to clean the house.
That'll be a excellent opportunity to clean the house.
707:
I have watched your recent postings on pprune with great interest and fascination. I am consumed with huge admiration at your encyclopaedic knowledge of matters aviation.
However, I am totally intrigued at your suggestion that DHL might be considering scraping some of their aircraft. I do know that, whilst it is terribly time consuming, polishing aircraft can do wonders for their performance but I am itching to hear just how scraping their aircraft might help. It might work with carrots on a one-off basis but I would have thought that the average airframe would be somewhat damaged in the process.
It seems to me that the possible benefits that might be derived from this new aerodynamic theory of yours might be lost in the
need to re-skin each aircraft so treated at every 'C' check. In any event, I am very, very glad that I don't fly for DHL if they are to adopt your suggestion.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to try it out on their BAe 146 fleet first? After all, they do have a fair number of BAe 146s and would have no difficulty finding replacements on the secondhand
market at the moment. By the way, just how many BAe 146s do you reckon DHL have at the moment just so that we can be sure?
To the rest of you:
I am sorry to get a bit off-topic (as usual) but I think 707 has got himself on the wrong website having suffered a total INS failure in the vicinity of Clapham Junction.
I have watched your recent postings on pprune with great interest and fascination. I am consumed with huge admiration at your encyclopaedic knowledge of matters aviation.
However, I am totally intrigued at your suggestion that DHL might be considering scraping some of their aircraft. I do know that, whilst it is terribly time consuming, polishing aircraft can do wonders for their performance but I am itching to hear just how scraping their aircraft might help. It might work with carrots on a one-off basis but I would have thought that the average airframe would be somewhat damaged in the process.
It seems to me that the possible benefits that might be derived from this new aerodynamic theory of yours might be lost in the
need to re-skin each aircraft so treated at every 'C' check. In any event, I am very, very glad that I don't fly for DHL if they are to adopt your suggestion.
Perhaps it would be a good idea to try it out on their BAe 146 fleet first? After all, they do have a fair number of BAe 146s and would have no difficulty finding replacements on the secondhand
market at the moment. By the way, just how many BAe 146s do you reckon DHL have at the moment just so that we can be sure?
To the rest of you:
I am sorry to get a bit off-topic (as usual) but I think 707 has got himself on the wrong website having suffered a total INS failure in the vicinity of Clapham Junction.
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707,
You probably wanted to say something like "to sell these a/c for scrap". I hope so. Scraping aircraft ! strange
On the other end, I don't think DHL owns many of these "4 apu powered" aeroplanes.
You probably wanted to say something like "to sell these a/c for scrap". I hope so. Scraping aircraft ! strange
On the other end, I don't think DHL owns many of these "4 apu powered" aeroplanes.
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Well, I think I know where this one started but, as far as I know, it's a bit like 'Send three &
fourpence, we're going to a dance'!
The DHL German masters are looking at major synergies but there were, and still are, good reasons
for having the UK Airline. That they will all come under a single controlling authority will happen,
but that does not mean all under one AOC. Whatever occurs, DHL will still end up with 35 B757s and will
need the crews to fly them so I feel major redundancies are NOT about to happen!
As for the 'laid up' B727s, of course they're being laid up - they're being replaced by 75's. Duuhh!
fourpence, we're going to a dance'!
The DHL German masters are looking at major synergies but there were, and still are, good reasons
for having the UK Airline. That they will all come under a single controlling authority will happen,
but that does not mean all under one AOC. Whatever occurs, DHL will still end up with 35 B757s and will
need the crews to fly them so I feel major redundancies are NOT about to happen!
As for the 'laid up' B727s, of course they're being laid up - they're being replaced by 75's. Duuhh!
