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Old 9th Mar 2010, 12:31
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Old 9th Mar 2010, 13:08
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Old 9th Mar 2010, 13:12
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hydroplane;

As regards the TAA address, this is from another site where they are trying to sell a 744:

1999 Boeing 747 - 400
Other Aircrafts Trans Atlantic Airways has for sale or lease


Serial no.: tba
Registration No.: tba
Manufacture year.: 1999
Price.: 28, 000,000
Add Type.: Sale
Seller.: Trans Atlantic Airways
25 High Street
0x20 ITE - Woodstock
United Kingdom


I sent Belfairs a message to enquire about this but I won't get a reply in a month of Sundays.

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Old 9th Mar 2010, 14:33
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I'm flying high and couldn't be more confident about the future

Not suprising really as he was alleged to have pocketed in the region of £6m
when the dust settled and the court action was finished.

Anyone remember how much he gave to his former staff ?
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Old 9th Mar 2010, 20:39
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What is it about the aviation industry that allows people who have no idea about what is happening with in a company the freedom to come on a website & talk complete & utter sh**t without any proof or concern about what their ill informed comments will do to the people that work for them.

Hydro you for some reason keep going on about TAA finacial position & the fact that MK staff have not been paid. As for the position of TAA who knows but every person who works for MK is an individual & the fact that they are all prepared to carry on shows that MK is a compamy that is one that deserves to prosper. Let the staff have the final vote on wether thay carry on or not, you with all your complaints about not being able to read finacale accounts , it is down to the staff to make the decision about MK future, as you have said they are not getting paid, as I have said its their choice & maybe they enjoy MK & hope there is a real future there , which they may all beneifit from in the future. the last thing this industry needs is more airlines out of buisness especially by people who are nothing more than observers. Your comments do not help anyone Especially the people who work for MK who are more than able to make their own decesions about their own futures.
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 08:30
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Not immune to financial controls

MK (or any other airline, or any other company for that matter) is not immune from the financial controls of the government of their chosen "home".
Accounts have to be filed in a timely fashion by all (not just airlines).
If MK cannot afford to pay their staff I would suggest they are insolvent and therefore should not be trading.
If MK are not financially sound, the CAA are duty bound to close them down.
The fact that some of the remaining staff choose to work for no reward is for them to decide, the company's creditors past and present do not have the choice and have been let down again and again by MK.
The maxim is simple "No Pay - No Play"
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Old 10th Mar 2010, 16:19
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Exup unfortunately you cannot ignore the current financial crisis at MK, if the company is unable to pay staff salaries then it brings into question what else they cannot pay for. Staff can work for nothing if they wish but do they have the budget and tools to run the airline safely?

European airlines have to meet very strict financial requirements and the reason for that is to ensure that enough funds can and will be administered on the safe operation of that airline. Airlines in severe financial stress would be at significant risk of being unable to meet those financial criteria.
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 08:45
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I think member Hydroplane has a hidden agenda. I suspect him of being a member of Wiloo, a group of people living in the neighbourhood of Ostend Airport and opposing this airport by all means. I come to this conclusion after reading all his posts, mostly about MK and some about environmental issues concerning pilots. I see a lot of similarities between the 'info' Hydroplane is posting here and what you can read on Wiloo's website. Sometimes he uses the same method to post a link to another website (like this: 1). Wiloo also refers a lot to the info posted on this forum. This cannot be a coincidence.
Wiloo's only reason of living is trying to close Ostend Airport down. As MK is or better was Ostends main customer they made it a priority attacking MK from all sides. Press, politicians, Europe, even this forum... everyone is used or abused to achieve this. The way Hydroplane is fishing for some bad news about MK and trying to convince other members that there is something illegal about the company makes me more and more convinced. I suggest other members to keep this in mind when reading posts of Hydroplane and try to see everything in its right perspective.
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 13:39
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Come on Hydro, come out of the closset
Rywy 26 - I think Ostende is a brilliant airport, very friendly, no night curfews, free aircraft parking. I don't know why more carriers don't use it rather than the chaos at Liegge. Now about MK.................
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 13:43
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Back to the thread

I can't see what difference it makes as to a poster's agenda. It is for the mods to judge whether a post is appropriate. Can we get back to the thread and discuss whether MK (or any airline) should be allowed to fly under the British flag whilst unable to pay their bills?
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Old 11th Mar 2010, 20:41
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Cargobird & Charterman I have never said that MK finacial situation should be ignored, the fact that staff are not paid is a major issue but one that they will deccide on their own, I bet BA wished they had staff half as loyal as MK's staff now, All I have ever said is let the relevant groups make the choice wether MK carries on or not, that includes the staff, creditors & regulatory authroities not people with an agenda who continuely bad mouth Mk.
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Old 13th Mar 2010, 07:29
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Bruce,
the fact it is not readily available and that you have obviously been sworn to secrecy not to reveal it tells it own story
got t-shirt.. check your PM
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Old 15th Mar 2010, 22:59
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Well well well reading RWY26‘s post, it’s shooting the pianist time I see. Not everything that shines is gold. One thing we can be sure of on this forum that there are many wolves in cheap clothing. Fact is that RWY26 is making a lot of publicity for a certain messy website I wont repeat. Maybe RWY26 himself is the… Anyway, who does it with who, and for what reason, and how they feel doing it, I pass and leave that for the ladies pages of glossy magazines. Fact is G-MKJA is back in town, apparently there is some money left in the flying hobby club of singing pilots?
By the way nobody answered my remark on how it is possible an object (camera) was (is) attached to an MK frame noise gear? Were is the CAA in all this? With MK for nearly 2 years in financial trouble waters and not being able to pay its workforce properly, suppose an incident happens, is the CAA not jeopardizing its credibility to? But maybe the crisis is over and everybody has been paid while I was painting my ceilings these last couple of days?
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Old 16th Mar 2010, 10:39
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I bet the staff were upset when the bosses took their 727 for a jolly to Geneva, guess they found the cash for this?

http://www.planepictures.net/a/92/52/1268637804.jpg

How much more can the ground staff and pilots be pushed and pulled like this

My thoughts are with you all, good luck

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Old 16th Mar 2010, 10:57
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Depends on what the 727 & the Bosses where doing in Geneva, I doubt it was for choclate & Cuckoo Clocks. Lets hope for all involved that things are resolved soon.

Strange how no one has mentioned that MKJA is back in to service after its C check, then again that maybe seen as a slightly positive move & we wouldnt want that would we.

Hydro glad to see your back with vengance missed you.
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Old 16th Mar 2010, 11:25
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They might have three aircraft, but I hear some staff are now refusing to go to the office.

Also more and more crew are refusing to come out due lack of payment.

The clock is ticking
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Old 16th Mar 2010, 14:37
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Apparently the (Cuckoo) Clock didn't fit the gulfstream, so they took the Cayman bird VP-CMO? What's it's normal use? Thought money was transferred electronically nowadays? Maybe the only traceable track (some)one wants to make is the 727's contrails?

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Old 16th Mar 2010, 16:41
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Date :2010/03/15

New client for airline handling agent

Aero-Link Consulting has added MK Airlines to its cargo handling stable.
“The airline operates a 747 twice a week out of Luxemburg to Johannesburg,” Aero-Link Consulting managing director Jeremy Anandkumar told Cargo Info News.
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Old 16th Mar 2010, 20:06
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What has the normal use of the 727 got to do with anything & if they where trying to do some secret deal which I think your comment suggests (I may be wrong) they obviously failed as everyone here knows, not exactly James Bond stuff is it. Hydro please find another cause in life other than making unfounded accusations that you can not substansiate, maybe paint the ceilings again.
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Old 17th Mar 2010, 05:40
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Depends on whether or not crews have been paid! Is it justified the expense of sending senior managers to Geneva via company 727 to possibly get a deal vs. going commercial? For those who have not gotten a paycheck since November, I think not!
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