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is this MK??
Well ALX is Hewa Bora of Congo, who are on the EU blacklist, so if MK are doing an ACMI deal with them, then I would have thought (and hoped) that the UK CAA would take a close interest.
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Why would the CAA need to look at MK for the Charters listed if they are doing them. If the Cargo is legitamate which should be checked by the relevant autorities in Belguim what is the problem. The European Blacklist covers half the Airlines & Countries & lots of companies fly to & for them. Why try & stir up something out of nothing with half truths. If it is illegal as you seem to be suggesting MK are not exactly trying to hide what they are doing if the info can be found so easily.
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Hewa Bora
Wow - that touched a raw nerve! Airlines and countries are put on the EU blacklist (which certainly does not include "half the Airlines and Countries") when they are found to be incapable of meeting EU standards of safety oversight for aircraft operations. However, by the very nature of an ACMI contract, whilst safety oversight of the aircraft flight operations remains with the the lessor's CAA of registration, ancilliary services such as ground handling, cargo handling,weighing and loading, security, fuelling etc are provided by the lessee.
If the safety oversight standards of the country are not up to standard, it begs the question whether other service providers and government agencies are operating to an acceptable standard. For this very reason, direct operations to and from countries on the banned list are not permitted by the U.S. authorities and I am baffled as to why the UK do not take the same stance.
My comment was not particularly aimed at MK, we have to trust the UK CAA/DfT to do their job and oversee their operation properly, more that UK operators doing deals with airlines in countries whose aviation standards are poor should be scrutinised carefully.
If the safety oversight standards of the country are not up to standard, it begs the question whether other service providers and government agencies are operating to an acceptable standard. For this very reason, direct operations to and from countries on the banned list are not permitted by the U.S. authorities and I am baffled as to why the UK do not take the same stance.
My comment was not particularly aimed at MK, we have to trust the UK CAA/DfT to do their job and oversee their operation properly, more that UK operators doing deals with airlines in countries whose aviation standards are poor should be scrutinised carefully.
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No nerve touched at all, just asking for clarification on the point made, I also meant to say half the airlines & countries in Africa my mistake. Surely if that is the case no EU airline should operate to FIH as ALX are probably not resposible for the Fueling Companies or Handling Companies which will be audited by the relevant agencies to ensure they are up to the required standards.
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Mk are flying for Demavia BRU-FIH and Demavia use the ALX flight number of Hewa Bora to get around the traffic rights issue in FIH. The Belgium CAA will still want to see a wet-lease agreement between MK and Hewa Bora to allow them to fly out of Belgium under an ALX flight number. Airlines on the EU banned list can still wet-lease 'quality' carriers to operate on their behalf to and from Europe. Demavia act as the charterer/consolidator and was using CV up until about a month ago when they switched to MK as they felt CV (who also operate to FIH in their own right) were begining to compete against them. The rates to FIH are very poor and Demavia only have a minimum commitment to MK of 40T per flight so no one is going to get rich on this deal 
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no EU airline should operate to FIH
I personally do not agree with "contracts of convenience" to bypass regulations, which after all are there for everyone's protection. I doubt whether Hewa Bora would have any involvement in this deal, other than receiving a fee for using their callsign anyway. My point is, when you say "Fueling Companies or Handling Companies which will be audited by the relevant agencies to ensure they are up to the required standards" my point is that is precisely what doesn't happen!
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MK on the brink of another administration?
Morale is lower than ever and rumours of going back into administration or complete liquidation have been rumbling around on the hill. When will TAA figure out the problem?
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Another administration...
Lambshank I think it is the case that TAA need to see how they can get any sort of return on the funds they have invested thus far. MK have the same business model that they had prior to the administration last year, nothing has really changed except that the market conditions are probably worse. Cannot see TAA wanting to continue to plough money into an organisation in which there is no chance of a return?
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rumours of going back into administration or complete liquidation
I fear this is an all too familar script. I reiterate my previous comments that if it is broke and you don't fix it, then the inevitable conclusion is that it will stay broke. Aviation is not exempt from the basic rules of economics.
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Dr Abdullah Alanizi
He resigned as a director on 13th July 2009 according to others. More interestingly the C of A for G-MKEA expires on 25th October and G-MKBA on 26th October, so presumably C checks are due?
I am sure we can all rely on the UK CAA to be on top of the situation though
I am sure we can all rely on the UK CAA to be on top of the situation though
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Isn't MK operating the former 747-200 off lease from AAI? so probably in no rush to get an a/c out of "C Check"
Is TAA still involved?
Thanks
Is TAA still involved?
Thanks
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Confused
Easily done but I get confused.
How many B747F-200s is MK currently operating of their own acft. Is it x 3 or 4 ? Are they still ACMI with World x 1 B744F & MD1F ?
How many B747F-200s is MK currently operating of their own acft. Is it x 3 or 4 ? Are they still ACMI with World x 1 B744F & MD1F ?
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Mk operating 1 off R/R powered A/c & 3 off JT9 powered A/c at this time, they also currently have 2 JT9 powered A/c on C checks. In addition they also have other operators flying on their behalf as & when required.