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Old 23rd Feb 2009, 19:46
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Since you like to bring up facts from the past, I'll just say thank you for embracing the idea I brought up before on one of these goat-rope threads (which for some unkown reason, I'm too stupid not be suckered into)

Originally Posted by nitty gritty
The key is getting scope under the Holding company and the companies controlled by or partially owned by, not just the individual airlines. Maybe something similar to Republic's contract.
Anyone just read the KoolAid machine with the ANA contract? I wonder if they wanted a non-compete, thus the dropping of the NRT station...just a WAG on my part.

And in other news, the cronyism, which was feared, has shown it's head. At least they attached a mea culpa with it. Too bad they didn't hire one of the 66 pilots or 14 (nee` 43) FE's hittin' the bricks...or some 15 year ABX pilot on the street.
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Old 23rd Feb 2009, 22:05
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I'd venture that DHL wants to move their new toys.

Either way...ship stuff airfreight folks....
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Ejet CA said: "Anyone just read the KoolAid machine with the ANA contract? I wonder if they wanted a non-compete, thus the dropping of the NRT station...just a WAG on my part."

Could you please copy/attach or reference the ANA contract you speak of?

Thank you.
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 14:21
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Check the rumor board.

It's on a secured intranet, so I won't post it in public. Those with access will find it.

I just find it odd after the announcement of NRT closing, that a question/answer (ambiguous enough that you can read it either way good or bad) regarding ANA opportunities was posted days after.
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 16:34
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It's on a secured intranet, so I won't post it in public. Those with access will find it.

I just find it odd after the announcement of NRT closing, that a question/answer (ambiguous enough that you can read it either way good or bad) regarding ANA opportunities was posted days after.


I just looked at the board, the question and the company's answer.

It says NOTHING that you can say here public OR private.

Why Why Why must the few of you continue to try and make this out to be something that it is not.


If you are old enough, go ask your parents or Grandparents what living during the 1930's was like.

Although then one might ask why I continue to come here and
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 17:24
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After today’s investors conference call it is clear that the tin foil hats can be put away. The mystery customer will not start before October, and it is far from a sure thing at any date. Polar’s scheduled service, on the other hand, definitely lost a lot of money last year (was 46 million?).

Polar is now all ACMI.
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 17:55
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Fr8Dog,

Is there any reason not to find it interesting that with all of the rumors that floated around in Nov and Dec that nothing was posted on there, yet days after the NRT closure, there was a posting, no matter how ambiguous? I'm not posting it, because if they wanted the information public, it would have been on the unsecured site.

I'm not a tinfoil hat guy, but I refuse to believe that the timing of certain events is purely coincidental.

I merely suggested that there might be a trade-off in the works, and they might be working a deal. More jobs is a good thing right now.

It is a rumor board afterall. It's not pbashpilots.com it's pprune.com
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 20:05
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Polar is now all ACMI
Only with 6 airplanes and now ACMI again? . . Wow, that turns the clock back 13+ %#$ years!

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Old 24th Feb 2009, 20:37
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CR2

ACMI? Polar? did I miss something again.... Blockspace agreement with DHL yes..


In the conference call today management was clear that there has been no scheduled service since October and that Polar was now ACMI. At least from a bean counting standpoint.

Of course the bean people don't live in the same reality as the rest of us.
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Blockspace agreement with DHL yes
Perhaps you mean Polar's new LGG/SHJ DHL run? . . what next, new -400 nonstop service from LGG to FRA?

Understand that AAWW's -800's are now going to AABO/AACS, confirm?

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More of the same

EJetCa, Was not intended as a bash, I have re-read my post and do not see anything that could be construed as one. But if it will make you feel better....


I apologize FR8

Hey, I am just an old **** that has been doing this for the last 40+ years, I probably don't know what the hell I am talking about anyway.


Cheers
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 21:11
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Understand that the -800's are now going to AABO/AACS.
What's a -800?
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 21:40
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ACMI? Polar? did I miss something again.... Blockspace agreement with DHL yes..
Yes, which is effectively ACMI, since DHL controls the schedule and assumes the fuel cost.

IMO, the "blockspace agreement" moniker is simply a tag to keep the regulators at bay, since I doubt DOT would like to have to admit that DHL has more than 25% "control" of the company, even though it has installed 2 top DHL execs at the top...
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 22:05
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Fr8

I didn't take it as a bash, but I was referring to the tone by about 8 regular posters in every AAWW thread that beats a dead dog and each other, fighting wars that are over.

I tend to think that when in a holding company format, the timing for certain types of announcements/interjections/insinuations is not pure coincidence.

But what do I know? I came from the company that was that perfected the holding company format in their industry segment. [to be read a bit tongue-in-cheek]

Cheers and beers
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Old 24th Feb 2009, 22:08
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Understand that AAWW's -800's are now going to AABO/AACS, confirm?
L-38,
You really need to pay attention. The new 747 is called the 747-8. AAWH has talked about the possiblity of sending the first three -8's to GSS, who fly for BA. They would be dry leased to GSS. AACS/AABO do not operate thier own planes. The word is, they'll be gone well before the 747-8's arrive.
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Old 25th Feb 2009, 06:37
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Thanks' Whale - I knew some of that . . too much brew today.
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 12:09
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the dispatchers

probably on the polar side right? I mean Bernie and crew have been there as long as I was, if not longer.
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 00:49
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Holly J.C.

I can not belive that the Grand G___ D__N POOBA himself, CR2 has not put out the information about the 100 ATLAS ONLY pilots that were furloughed at 1415 LCL eastern this afternoon.

Slipping I guess
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 04:01
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Damn, I always thought you had ALL the good stuff FIRST? What happened?

Aren't you right there in the middle of it all in Purchase and all.
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Old 27th Feb 2009, 19:50
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Best Angle: What do you mean by the company doing the right thing? Please explain . . .
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