Atlas/AABO
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From: KLAX
" . . posts above are so completely ambiguous and full of NON-INFORMATION that you should probably think about going back to school and take a class in writing. . ."
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From: Romeo 14
A trend
This sounds almost exactly like what polar/DHL pulled in ANC. With the exception of a very small handfull of Atlas employees in maint/spares,, all polar ground/ops staff were let go, leaving just 1 polar employee, the "station manager".
The obvious strategy was that after the people were fired they would have nowhere else to go but to one of the ground service contractors, then polar could rehire the same people as contractors at a few $/hr lower.
Short story, the contractor (swissport) was grossly unprepared, the old "primary" contractor F&E tried to absorb the displaced ground staff having been butt-jabbed by polar. ANC ground ops are fragmented per individual contract acmi vs. dhl. And what had been a smooth operation for close to a decade is now a cluster-f*ck. 80% of polar's old staff were thrown to the curb, and polar was forced to rehire a few of the office staff back due to thier own contractors incompetence.
So, ANC is a mess, a bunch of nice people got hurt, old and trusted contractors were betrayed. polar's bean counters strike again.
Heracles, slave to carhartt fashion.
The obvious strategy was that after the people were fired they would have nowhere else to go but to one of the ground service contractors, then polar could rehire the same people as contractors at a few $/hr lower.
Short story, the contractor (swissport) was grossly unprepared, the old "primary" contractor F&E tried to absorb the displaced ground staff having been butt-jabbed by polar. ANC ground ops are fragmented per individual contract acmi vs. dhl. And what had been a smooth operation for close to a decade is now a cluster-f*ck. 80% of polar's old staff were thrown to the curb, and polar was forced to rehire a few of the office staff back due to thier own contractors incompetence.
So, ANC is a mess, a bunch of nice people got hurt, old and trusted contractors were betrayed. polar's bean counters strike again.
Heracles, slave to carhartt fashion.
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From: Tfirma
It will be interesting to see if any AABO are affected by this next round of furloughs.
If only Atlas takes a hit(again), we are talking about mainlines guys with DOH of April 2000 being furloughed!!! ALL senior to several AABO pilots!!!
AABO is, and has been a real cancer that affects the careers of both Atlas, and Polar. It is imperative to get rid of these bunch of people who for the last years have enjoyed the best job of their lives.
There has never been a better time to get rid of them, and I say it again AABO has got to GO!!!
Tough times call for tough measures
Get rid of AABO
If only Atlas takes a hit(again), we are talking about mainlines guys with DOH of April 2000 being furloughed!!! ALL senior to several AABO pilots!!!
AABO is, and has been a real cancer that affects the careers of both Atlas, and Polar. It is imperative to get rid of these bunch of people who for the last years have enjoyed the best job of their lives.
There has never been a better time to get rid of them, and I say it again AABO has got to GO!!!
Tough times call for tough measures
Get rid of AABO
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From: Gods Country
Aacs/aabo
Quote:
"Best Angle: What do you mean by the company doing the right thing? Please explain . . ."
I meant this would be an excellent time to get rid of AACS/AABO (and also NOT transfer them to Titan) to demonstrate that AAWH is trying to work in a positive manner with the union.
Sorry about spelling Block Space wrong.....BA
"Best Angle: What do you mean by the company doing the right thing? Please explain . . ."
I meant this would be an excellent time to get rid of AACS/AABO (and also NOT transfer them to Titan) to demonstrate that AAWH is trying to work in a positive manner with the union.
Sorry about spelling Block Space wrong.....BA
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From: USA
When you guys are talking about furloughs to 2000 date of hire, are you talking about pilots with that date of hire or does that include Flight Engineers? I've been all over Globalnet and can't find the EXACT numbers. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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From: New York
For info no one from AABO will be furlough (once more), the plan was to downgrade 4 guys, but those guys were told by RR not to worry because it will not happen, go figure
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From: South of Disorder
What has happened to all of CR2's posts? For whatever reason, they are missing.
As a moderator, one would hope that he would look at Polax52's comments on #198 and his other previous posts that show a predisposition to again falsely impugn members reputations to satisy his own misguided interpretations of both verbiage and facts.
Others on these boards have had privledges suspended for less. The pilots groups have enough to work through; Polax appears to be intent only on trying to incite the groups for his own perverted pleasure.
As a moderator, one would hope that he would look at Polax52's comments on #198 and his other previous posts that show a predisposition to again falsely impugn members reputations to satisy his own misguided interpretations of both verbiage and facts.
Others on these boards have had privledges suspended for less. The pilots groups have enough to work through; Polax appears to be intent only on trying to incite the groups for his own perverted pleasure.
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From: Close to FACT
Moderators are not on duty 24/7. They are volunteers. As for removing posts, it occured to me that said posts had nothing to do with the thread title. Probably not the cleverest of things to post either if you think about it. Mea Culpa.
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civilized. If anyone feels like using the scab word again, be warned. You'll be permanently banned.
Gonna sit in the background and wield the stick if necessary.
This thread has been more or less
civilized. If anyone feels like using the scab word again, be warned. You'll be permanently banned.Gonna sit in the background and wield the stick if necessary.
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From: Romeo 14
So, as morbid as it may be, whats the best estimate at the current "body count"? Decreasing the crew roster,, increasing the attendance of Roswell and Mojave? I'm sure the -200 has taken some pretty big hits. Or, is Atlas once again adding to Southern's fleet?
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From: USofA
increasing the attendance of Roswell and Mojave? I'm sure the -200 has taken some pretty big hits. Or, is Atlas once again adding to Southern's fleet?
Previous furlough addressed the reduction of the classic fleet to 7 operating.
All -400's are flying and even working Military to pick up the slack.
DBW
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From: New York
All -400's are flying and even working Military to pick up the slack.
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From: KLAX
The -400's . . are now taking the flying that the classics have covered . .
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From: USofA
I believe they recently negotiated 100+ ton rates instead of the former 80 ton rates (MD-11 size loads). Benefits are improved planning/efficiency for AMC, better margins for Atlas using a 747.
Everybody wins.
DBW
Everybody wins.
DBW
