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Old 24th Sep 2008, 15:14
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So whats happening with 193C-1199 & -1225


Operated by Air Rum believe getting ready for the Hajj

-1226, also.
Saudi FOC now issued, well ahead of schedule.


Hey 411A knowing that you are not a 'corner cutter" and go by the book, how have you accomplished the Axial Motion AD on the engines?
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Been to Dhaka today.....S2-AET is still there and has been for some time now...it is painted in Thai SKY Cargo colours
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Hey 411A knowing that you are not a 'corner cutter" and go by the book, how have you accomplished the Axial Motion AD on the engines?
Deferred by relevant CAA iaw RR documentation, and have the LOA to prove it.
Limited time only, however.
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Old 25th Sep 2008, 11:37
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Deferred by relevant CAA

And which Sterling Civil Aviation Authority would that be ??

Certainly well South of EASA and well East of the FAA
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Certainly well South of EASA and well East of the FAA
Yup, just about right...
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Registration of convenience?
Guess this CAA knows more than Mr. Rolls Royce and Lockheed about what is due and what is not.
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Old 26th Sep 2008, 00:57
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Deferred by relevant CAA iaw RR documentation, and have the LOA to prove it.
Limited time only, however.


I can only assume it will cover the Hajj then?

Sort of making a pilgrimage in more ways than one?
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Was this like the Orange Air/Linejet N-194AT FAA Ferry permit from MIA last year?
Sorry..... had to laugh and throw that one in.....
Been there done that.
So with the crews operating a known questionable A/D issue and placing your license on the line being fully aware of this, the pay must be really high?
Not a normal flight we have all done them with haj for many years.
Just because someone in a apparent local high position says its ok is not enough, your ass is still on the line if something happens.
Cant have it both ways.....

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Old 26th Sep 2008, 01:27
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Are there any Tristar companies left that actually operate correctly , pay the crews as promised and follow the regulations?
Doubt it, seems Globejet with Joe Attalh and Miranda was the last ones, at least with the crew issues!!!!
We were paid and treated well!

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Old 26th Sep 2008, 05:49
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Are there any Tristar companies left that actually operate correctly , pay the crews as promised and follow the regulations?
Doubt it, seems Globejet with Joe Attalh and Miranda was the last ones, at least with the crew issues!!!!
We were paid and treated well!
You have LUZair and euroAtlantic. They pay their crews, operate the entire year (not only for Hajj) and operate under EASA regulations.
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Was this like the Orange Air/Linejet N-194AT FAA Ferry permit from MIA last year?
No, not similar at all.
If you actually read above, you will notice that the extension procedure is RR approved....and contrary to what TShirt might expect.

By the way, LineJet has another airplane, from the same source, same circumstances as with the first, is the rumour.
Delivered last month, and it will retain FAA registration.
They also have their Saudi FOC approved, so I'm told.
A third airplane is in the works for these folks, for spares.

I can only assume it will cover the Hajj then?

Sort of making a pilgrimage in more ways than one?
No, longer, as follow on contracts are in negotiations now.
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Old 27th Sep 2008, 12:42
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411.
The RR letter is standard and I have only seen it issued ( On several occasions) BUT only have to kits have been ordered to at least show there is some intent to comply
To order the kit requires full payment to RR at $125,000 a copy.
Also the RR letter is only support the final approval has to come from the Airworthiness Authority
Of course I am sure that your people have done that
Oh silly me - not a problem !


Makes no difference.
We (in the USA) do, that's all that matters.
Full stop.

Recognise this from another site

You indicate that the FAA are the world Authority but they have never given dispensation for this
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Are there any Tristar companies left that actually operate correctly , pay the crews as promised and follow the regulations?
Try RAF
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Are there any Tristar companies left that actually operate correctly , pay the crews as promised and follow the regulations?
Orbital Science!

They are even converting there aircraft to a -200, removing the 22B's and installing 524's, plus addtional work.
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Old 28th Sep 2008, 00:43
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Thumbs up

The L1011 market is hotting up!

The ATA aircraft should be sold this coming week!

Couple of freighters are also scheduled for reactivation. (not the Belgian)

Several deals pending in the Middle East!

Any info let me know or PM me.
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The L1011 market is hotting up!
I heard that the "hostpital ship" is scheduled into Delta for a check and with a plan to put in back into operation?
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You indicate that the FAA are the world Authority but they have never given dispensation for this
Only for ops with FAA registry.
As many aeroplanes operate outside of FAA-land (and indeed, outside of EASA-land), it is entirely up to the relevant aviation authority of the country of registration.
All quite basic, TShirt, but I'm sure you knew this already...
I heard that the "hostpital ship" is scheduled into Delta for a check and with a plan to put in back into operation?
Yes, so it would seem.
One other -500 operator is about to sign a multi-year charter contract, with another operator looking for a another -500, to do the same.
Quite some positive action in an otherwise down market.
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 07:25
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All quite basic, TShirt, but I'm sure you knew this already...

411,
Yes You are correct but my point was that on other forums you are holding the FAA up as the only (world) authority that we should all follow but then you fly for operator (s!) that avoid every FAA rule that may cost them money.

Avoiding the Axial motion AD is purely financial driven and no other reason - they have had 5 years to accomplish this mod and avoided it

And just to prempt your next post that the kits are not available, this is BS.
Mr RR has kits available.
Kits are available and Orbital have just carried it out on the 524's they are putting in their aircraft.

Regarding your "FAA ops only" comment this is also rubbish! Even EASA require you to follow FAA AD's on US manufactured products.
If it were not for FAA AD's many countries would not have AD's at all
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 12:13
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Yes You are correct but my point was that on other forums you are holding the FAA up as the only (world) authority that we should all follow but then you fly for operator (s!) that avoid every FAA rule that may cost them money.
Seems you speak with forked tounge, TShirt.

First, its...
Yes, You are correct...
then, its...
Regarding your "FAA ops only" comment this is also rubbish!
Really, you should make up your mind, old boy.

Now, as to...
Avoiding the Axial motion AD is purely financial driven and no other reason - they have had 5 years to accomplish this mod and avoided it
Entirely correct, and with full RR and regulatory authority compliance, via LOA.
It's called, efficient regulatory approved ops.
We need only look at a few other operators for entirely more obtuse regulatory oversight...bits of engines falling off airplanes at JED, is but one small example.
In fact, after four months of inspections by no less than five regulatory authorities, they all seemed rather impressed with the companies aircraft, and their maintenance state.
Of course, as you undoubtedly know nothing of all this, your comments otherwise are simply unsubstantiated conjecture on your part.
Why should we not be surprised...?
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Old 29th Sep 2008, 13:51
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You got that one correct 411 about some companies and the engines falling apart in jed.
Surprised they have not killed anyone yet with the bad maint. and lack of oversight of this ACMI company.
Funny thing though all of there paperwork is correct.
Compared to the operator I think you are referring to your Tristars should do just fine.
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