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Surely we can agree that the benefits for new joiners and those that joined after 2015 are substantial and obvious with the old A scale conditions back!
According to the unions presentation the following has been agreed.
A 4% pay increase over 4 years on top of the index which should be another 2.5% this year.
There is an agreement on large buffers on the EASA FTL limits for standard crew plus a second sector limitation.
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Big steps have been taken to improve roster stability and fixed off days. 12 off days per calendar month plus 42 vacation days. By spreading that vacation days evenly over the year you can effectively create a 7on, 8off roster!
Commercial positioning is either business or first class.
With the continued recruitment that opens the door for more upgrading and faster career progression.
This is just a few items from the top of my head but I would say that this is a large benefit for all existing crews as well.
According to the unions presentation the following has been agreed.
A 4% pay increase over 4 years on top of the index which should be another 2.5% this year.
There is an agreement on large buffers on the EASA FTL limits for standard crew plus a second sector limitation.
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Big steps have been taken to improve roster stability and fixed off days. 12 off days per calendar month plus 42 vacation days. By spreading that vacation days evenly over the year you can effectively create a 7on, 8off roster!
Commercial positioning is either business or first class.
With the continued recruitment that opens the door for more upgrading and faster career progression.
This is just a few items from the top of my head but I would say that this is a large benefit for all existing crews as well.
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Originally Posted by Final 24
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Is your contract bad because them or what? I would like to understand..thanks
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Originally Posted by Final 24
Surely we can agree that the benefits for new joiners and those that joined after 2015 are substantial and obvious with the old A scale conditions back!
According to the unions presentation the following has been agreed.
A 4% pay increase over 4 years on top of the index which should be another 2.5% this year.
There is an agreement on large buffers on the EASA FTL limits for standard crew plus a second sector limitation.
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Big steps have been taken to improve roster stability and fixed off days. 12 off days per calendar month plus 42 vacation days. By spreading that vacation days evenly over the year you can effectively create a 7on, 8off roster!
Commercial positioning is either business or first class.
With the continued recruitment that opens the door for more upgrading and faster career progression.
This is just a few items from the top of my head but I would say that this is a large benefit for all existing crews as well.
According to the unions presentation the following has been agreed.
A 4% pay increase over 4 years on top of the index which should be another 2.5% this year.
There is an agreement on large buffers on the EASA FTL limits for standard crew plus a second sector limitation.
No expansion on Cargolux Italia for the next 4 years.
Big steps have been taken to improve roster stability and fixed off days. 12 off days per calendar month plus 42 vacation days. By spreading that vacation days evenly over the year you can effectively create a 7on, 8off roster!
Commercial positioning is either business or first class.
With the continued recruitment that opens the door for more upgrading and faster career progression.
This is just a few items from the top of my head but I would say that this is a large benefit for all existing crews as well.
Men generally believe what they want to, so opinions can not be changed, regardless of the abrasive and evident truth.
If roster planning equals to strained muscle, roster execution (and reality) equals to rape. I encourage the smart cookies to further elaborate about this topic. Have fun.
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Originally Posted by SkyHawk1985
Question! Is a job with Cargolux commutable?
Most people commute anyway, some as far as from Spain or Scandinavia. My average trip length so far this year’s 7 days, longest beeing 12 and the shortest 4 days. Spent 95 days away from home year to date, so all in all pretty commutable!Join Date: Jan 2015
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Originally Posted by SkyHawk1985
Question! Is a job with Cargolux commutable?
My view is, with the new CWA now signed the conditions for new entries will be acceptable again moneywise. Hopefully that will result in more people joining, eliminating chaotic rostering due to lack of pilots. The companie’s network, airplane, maintenance and colleagues are really remarkable.
I hope I could help you, answering your question, good luck!
Originally Posted by J74
Final 24 I would like to know what’s your “problem” is concerning expansion or not of Cargolux Itaia.
Is your contract bad because them or what? I would like to understand..thanks
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Good evening guys,
I am looking at the adverts, reading through the forum here, and would like to ask, as its already one month since last post, any update on new CWA?
Do you think it would be really possible to make with use of AL and maybe some of the part time options to get comfortable 7 ON 8 OFF roster?
Thanks for honest ideas, anything what shows me some more light about the cargolux would be appreciated.
I am looking at the adverts, reading through the forum here, and would like to ask, as its already one month since last post, any update on new CWA?
Do you think it would be really possible to make with use of AL and maybe some of the part time options to get comfortable 7 ON 8 OFF roster?
Thanks for honest ideas, anything what shows me some more light about the cargolux would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Couchpotatoe
CWA has been signed until 2022!
Formerly known "B-Scale" eliminated as of 1. January 2020, meaning same off-days as everybody else, pay adjusted to former levels + previous experience will be credited.
New rostering (12 monthly rosters instead of 13 28-day-rosters), off day scheme changed to 7 consecutive days off + 5 flexible off days (6 times per year these days will be fixed and cannot be moved by the company).
One week on and one week off should be easily possible with a 20% parttime option, BUT, 3-year waiting period for new joiners to be entitled to part-time.
Formerly known "B-Scale" eliminated as of 1. January 2020, meaning same off-days as everybody else, pay adjusted to former levels + previous experience will be credited.
New rostering (12 monthly rosters instead of 13 28-day-rosters), off day scheme changed to 7 consecutive days off + 5 flexible off days (6 times per year these days will be fixed and cannot be moved by the company).
One week on and one week off should be easily possible with a 20% parttime option, BUT, 3-year waiting period for new joiners to be entitled to part-time.
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No, that’s not possible, the reason being that from the time the roster is issued it will change 25-30 times before your flight - often 4-5 times on the day before your first duty.
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Thank you for the answer. this means that if I am not living in Lux it will be very hard for me to plan my life and see my family, am I right?
I was curious if commuting is a real possibility, but from what I saw on this forum, it is very hard...
I was curious if commuting is a real possibility, but from what I saw on this forum, it is very hard...
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Originally Posted by ufon
Thank you for the answer. this means that if I am not living in Lux it will be very hard for me to plan my life and see my family, am I right?
I was curious if commuting is a real possibility, but from what I saw on this forum, it is very hard...
I was curious if commuting is a real possibility, but from what I saw on this forum, it is very hard...
The majority of colleagues are commuting (mostly to Bel. Ned, Ger, Aust. Swi) and this works out well for most of us. I’m on full time and have spent an average of 13 days on the road per month so far this year, average trip lenth 7,5 days, making commuting pretty doable.
Don’t be misleaded by what a few people say on PPRuNe. True, roster changes get on everyones nerves and it’s definitely not all roses here, but all in all it’s still a good deal, especially now with new joiners basically getting the “old” contract again (B-scale gone).
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Hi Indrapoera,
than you for your message, I am happy to hear that commuting is a real option.
I think I will give a try
If it is not a secret, how much should I expect as salary (after tax)?
than you for your message, I am happy to hear that commuting is a real option.
I think I will give a try
If it is not a secret, how much should I expect as salary (after tax)?
