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Karunch 22nd Oct 2017 19:51

The reports back from the frontline should start to come in shortly then.... medical checks at briefing, food poisoning, base closures, the hotel in Zuhai & life in a PRC flightdeck. Three sacrificial pilots from 500 won't be noticed. Good luck to them.

Trafalgar 22nd Oct 2017 21:35

Thank you for managments perspective. Noted

Dead Serious 23rd Oct 2017 01:16

But your exit rate still exceeds intake rate. Result "misery"( Mr McCaubber, David Copperfield ).

Icarus2001 23rd Oct 2017 03:59


“We currently have more fully qualified pilots in the United States than there are positions available,” the ALPA told FOX Business in a statement. “However, we do need to make sure we have an adequate future supply of qualified pilots … We are fully committed to doing what it takes to keep the pilot pipeline strong and our skies safe. But as we work to address this long-term pilot availability issue, we should not allow special interests in Washington, D.C., to weaken pilot qualification requirements and make our skies less safe.”
So ALPA says NO shortage at present. Mmmmm

Air Profit 23rd Oct 2017 04:10

Anybody see anything strange in the main pilot union stating that there "isn't" a shortage? Well, if you know the history of ALPA, you will realise that the union is all about the union leadership. To admit there is a shortage would be to give ammunition to the suggestion that the US Govt and the airlines should be allowed to hire foreigners. That would actually weaken the power of the union. So, they state there "isn't a problem". Believe me, there is a BIG shortage developing in the US. Within 24 months the retirement rate will exceed the ability of the airlines to crew their aircraft. Why do you think the military just recalled a 1000 pilots back? There is NO way that the industry can cope with the developing shortage. No matter what ALPA, the US airlines of even more importantly, CX management have to say. We have the power. We need to use it. Take action this holiday season.

Dragon Pacific 23rd Oct 2017 04:22

Big mistake
 
In not many years to come this attack on B scale expats will be seen as an even bigger mistake than the fuel hedging. You can always pay more for fuel but you can't easily replace the skills and experience that will be lost if you insist on alienating your most senior pilots.

ANTIPHOLUS 23rd Oct 2017 05:57

Yeah Just like the attack(s) on the A scalers....and yet quite a few are still hère, on b scale...

Bill Bixby 27th Oct 2017 08:20


Originally Posted by bacou (Post 9908336)
The threat of DEC coming at KA would not be a motive for contract compliance if they were hired on short term contract to bridge the gap between permanent contract KA pilots being ready for the left seat and our need of expension.

But, all that expension is done in order to attack CX pilot contracts and when they are finished with them our turn will be coming.
We are now helping management stop expat housing at CX by training their pilots and when that housing is finished at CX we won't keep ours for long.

DPA and AOA must fight what's coming together and what's coming is a good motive for contract compliance.




You are correct in your summation there.
DPA AND AOA need to work together. SWIRE management hate nothing more than a unified work force. With that they are unable to play us off against each other.
AOA need to stop KA trainers helping CX out. Only then will they sit up and take notice. UNITY is a must.


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