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bacou 3rd Oct 2017 01:39

Staggers

Why are the A330 crews on big overtime when A320 pilots are well under the overtime threshold?
When was last time Command courses were available on the A330 and when is going to be the next one, none advertised until December ?
Is the overtime created by poor management or part of increase Synergy between KA and CX big plan?

Flex88 3rd Oct 2017 02:02

bacou
 
Did you miss earlier post
100% management created (i.e. self inflicted) crewing mess....
It's a CX/KA specialty.. Short term gain = longer term total :mad: up.
The Swire school of management unaccountability.:ugh:

Did everybody honestly complete their "Employee Engagement Survey"

330dryver 3rd Oct 2017 06:00

yes. Completely disagreed on all points.

bringbackthe80s 3rd Oct 2017 12:33


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 9907894)
There is healthy demand for A320 Captains worldwide.

Why would they choose KA?

That is what they will be asking themselves.

Western flight ops, western style flight crew, HK base, ID travel, possibility of long haul, an airline with decades of history.

Without being sarcastic and having noted the many negative points, these are the reasons I would say could appeal compared to other DEC 320 jobs.

theCOMEDIAN 4th Oct 2017 00:55

Possibility of Long Haul?

Lowkoon 4th Oct 2017 01:14

Maybe he means Beijing and Shanghai are two crew longhaul because it can take 16.5 hours to get back? :confused:

Dan Winterland 4th Oct 2017 04:35

''I hear from ears in the UK that KA are circling around the imminent carcass of Monarch UK.''

Well, they had better be quick. The worldwide pilot shortage has meant that there is already a feeding frenzy for the 400 or so Monarch guys. Virgin, easyJet, Aer Lingus, Flybe, SAS, Titan, Wow, Jet2 and Parc have already set up fast track recruitment for them. Even the RAF have invited the ex-military pilots to get in touch. Whoever get the valuable Monarch slots at MAN and LGW are going to need extra crew. I don't see any of them coming to HKG.

Lowkoon 4th Oct 2017 05:42

Good info Dan, lets hope they all get something close to where they want to be ASAP, with minimum disruption to their lives and their families. With choices like that, they at least have an option other than an airline that has declared open warfare on its pilots terms and conditions in a country that has extremely limited workers protections. It is certainly adding to our stress on the lead up to Christmas.

Helpers are at the moment in court so that they don't have to live with their bosses. Maybe we could spin this, we are prepared to lose some housing benefit if we can all move in with the boss? Then we could help the managers max out their impressive housing limits?

Trafalgar 4th Oct 2017 07:00

Speaking of Christmas. How many of us will be stressed and unfit thinking about our families, and the threat they have been put under by our self-serving management? Just a thought.

bringbackthe80s 4th Oct 2017 10:49


Originally Posted by theCOMEDIAN (Post 9913449)
Possibility of Long Haul?

What about the 330s ?

Lowkoon 4th Oct 2017 14:50

A quick glance at the route structure should answer that one for you BringBackThe80s.

bringbackthe80s 4th Oct 2017 16:11

Correct. Sorry my bad

theCOMEDIAN 5th Oct 2017 01:06


Originally Posted by bringbackthe80s (Post 9913844)
What about the 330s ?

The furthest you fly in a 330 is Kathmandu. If that's long haul then the guys on the 777 and 747 must be astronauts

Langata 5th Oct 2017 04:13

Welcome to the Cathay Club ladies and gents in KA. You had it good but now you are firmly in the grip of good old inept CX management - you've seen what's happened to big brother over the years, now get ready for the same! The race to the bottom is in top gear right now and you are the next speed bump to flatten.

raven11 5th Oct 2017 14:37

They have no new or fresh ideas; embarrassed for having committed the biggest fuel blunder in aviation history...they are eager to try and redeem themselves....they just keep going back to draw fresh water from the pilot concession well...

The bucket now is only bringing up stones and mud, but they just can't stop dipping the bucket. They grow thirsty, and panic sets in. What now? Must have water...bonus depends on more concessions...more concessions...must find more concessions! Must transform the Company, make it more sustainable, time to win, project altitude and all that.

Hold on....we haven't dipped our bucket into that KA well!

Toss the bucket in!

Woody_Lightyear 6th Oct 2017 03:00

What if the water being extracted by "them" through a secret way bit by bit already?

Now we were told the well is dried while "they" have all their buckets overfill somewhere.

kahaha 6th Oct 2017 09:54

No chance. All KA Crew currently on a pay freeze. Until 2018. But in reality, its going to be 2020 before there's any real scraps thrown our way.

Housing, KA's HPS/ Rental is the same but different. DPA Housing recently signed off by the former slurpee DFO. 4 more years, so CXDragon OK jack. And still index linked

Trafalgar 6th Oct 2017 11:40

What is the current amount of housing allowance (highest) at KA ?

goathead 6th Oct 2017 14:32

Traf
Dont ask ahahaha
He works for HKE

Lowkoon 6th Oct 2017 16:19

Pretty low to attack our cos while we are on a freeze... I guess it is only frozen from going up, with an unlimited downside. This level of ethics and engagement was certainly reflected in my engagement survey.


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