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Some S/Os were eligible to be fast tracked to JF/O so they will appear as F/O on the seniority list. They aren't DEFO.
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Is there a hiring ban in place?
If not, then STFU and grow a pair. The reality of the situation is this spineless pilot group has consistently allowed the employment of pilots under lesser terms. S/Os ASL DEFOs DECs Don't treat these guys like garbage because you didn't have the insight to see whay was really happening and then lacked the fortitude to do anything about it. |
Originally Posted by Average Fool
(Post 9784912)
Is there a hiring ban in place?
If not, then STFU and grow a pair. The reality of the situation is this spineless pilot group has consistently allowed the employment of pilots under lesser terms. S/Os ASL DEFOs DECs Don't treat these guys like garbage because you didn't have the insight to see whay was really happening and then lacked the fortitude to do anything about it. |
Agree 100%
What an utter disgrace that this company flat out lies to prospective employees (and current employees) to lure them into the job. |
You mean like bases, 13th month, and profit share?
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....we have a 'bingo'....:ok: (and oh boy is the complete list a long one)
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I would love to know what they are actually telling people.
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Originally Posted by Average Fool
(Post 9785846)
I would love to know what they are actually telling people.
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DE FO status
Just wondering - are we to consider DE FO's as "Brushwingers" ❓❓
At this Time To Win phase of CX's evolution, things such as this are very important :8 |
I would call them "Gearpullers" as they are not good at anything else.
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So anybody got any feedback on the DEFO interview?
Cheers! |
Has an actual DEFO been hired?
Hard to tell on the seniority list with eligible SOs being fast tracked to JFO. |
A few have been hired, hard to say how many though
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I heard 8.
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Originally Posted by boxjockey
(Post 9828071)
I heard 8.
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They don't need as many now, 2 second officers on long haul flights to begin.
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Bound to delay the upgrade of B777 SOs
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Qantas have been doing 2 Second Officers for years. Their upgrade time can be decades..
SO, No housing, No bases, No upgrades and No flying for many many years. Might be a few more junior guys heading off soon then |
Aren't the elligable SOs being fast tracked directly to FO? They skip the JFO stage Don't they?
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Aren't the elligable SOs being fast tracked directly to FO? They skip the JFO stage don't they?
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The minimums for a fast track upgrade were 500 jet or PIC on an ATR/Dash 8 or similar. Unfortunately there are a lot of experienced SOs who still didn't make these requirements. Think turbo prop FOs and King Air/metro guys. One would think they'll be first out the door now.
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Interesting to note that current DEFO will remain at the bottom of the FO seniority list for the next 7-8 years whilst there is a slow trickle of SO upgrades who hold a higher seniority
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Not true, it was 1000 jet above 20tons aswell.
Originally Posted by gretzky99
(Post 9830202)
The minimums for a fast track upgrade were 500 jet or PIC on an ATR/Dash 8 or similar. Unfortunately there are a lot of experienced SOs who still didn't make these requirements. Think turbo prop FOs and King Air/metro guys. One would think they'll be first out the door now.
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Can anyone please give more information on the assessment (questions asked)?
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Oh mate, you are perfect for this place. Management will LOVE you. :rolleyes:
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Has anyone had the interview for DEFO?
What to study? Any recommendation? Tks |
What to study? Any recommendation? |
whats the forum called?
thanks |
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thanks buddy
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I passed as SO. Great experience was intense though.
I prepped in a 777 sim. Perhaps the only sim available in Europe was in Rome. I booked this through base.mu contact: [email protected] They will get you through the sim profile, it was basically identical. Its not worth going on the 737. Much better to fly the 777. Pricing was reasonable also. Very happy overall. |
Base, avarage salary, time to upgrade, environment
Hi guys. anyone know the bases that Cathay has? What is the avarage salary of a 747 pilot. What would be a time to upgrade for DEFO and how is the environment inside the cockpit and on training?
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Average the salary is indeed, time to upgrade will be as per the seniority and the environment in the cockpit is extremely dry.
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Any news
Hey guys,
Any latest info on the demands for DEFO ? The pass rate for the interview ? Time from initial application until being called to go there ? Thanks :) |
Originally Posted by sky210
(Post 10100862)
Hi guys. anyone know the bases that Cathay has? What is the avarage salary of a 747 pilot. What would be a time to upgrade for DEFO and how is the environment inside the cockpit and on training?
thanks expect about 30,000+ USD a month + a 4 bedroom apartment in town. All kids education paid for. Time to Jumbo command about two and a half years. Atmosphere is great, no industrial talk, expect to party with the cabin crew on numerous overnights. Great hotels. Fantastic rosters with lifestyle options other airlines can only dream of. The base of your choice probably about 3 years down the line and you can remain on base with absolute security. Strict adherence to local law is observed. Super management with a safety orientated, powerful vision for the future. Great package ( especially for new joiners, POS18 is fantastic) Great career airline. Clever articulate GM’s and directors. The GMA is amazing and you couldn’t ask for better leadership, especially from our parent group. We also have a great union, but not really needed because of quality management. Fantastic annual bonus formula. (Huge this year) whats not to like? Of course the usual suspects will appear with nothing but complaints, ignore them. Judge for yourself. |
Originally Posted by borntofly737
(Post 9725555)
Hello!
I was wondering if anybody had information on the DEFO interview, or will be attending in May. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Cheers, have a pulse.....they are parking jets.... |
Originally Posted by CyberT
(Post 10429924)
Don’t listen to the whining on here. Some people are never happy. expect about 30,000+ USD a month + a 4 bedroom apartment in town. All kids education paid for. Time to Jumbo command about two and a half years. Atmosphere is great, no industrial talk, expect to party with the cabin crew on numerous overnights. Great hotels. Fantastic rosters with lifestyle options other airlines can only dream of. The base of your choice probably about 3 years down the line and you can remain on base with absolute security. Strict adherence to local law is observed. Super management with a safety orientated, powerful vision for the future. Great package ( especially for new joiners, POS18 is fantastic) Great career airline. Clever articulate GM’s and directors. The GMA is amazing and you couldn’t ask for better leadership, especially from our parent group. We also have a great union, but not really needed because of quality management. Fantastic annual bonus formula. (Huge this year) whats not to like? Of course the usual suspects will appear with nothing but complaints, ignore them. Judge for yourself. |
Well spotted Scoreboard. You're on the ball today.
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Originally Posted by Fly747
(Post 10429946)
Well spotted Scoreboard. You're on the ball today.
well he is logged from Venezuela...so unsure he had been drinking koolaid while doing his interview? but ok "smack" |
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