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SMOC 7th Jan 2014 20:16


Total number of static dischargers on the 747
That's easy

"one less than your favourite number"

"Giggity Giggity"

Frogman1484 7th Jan 2014 22:12

What is the G limit of the A330 when flying in cloud with flap 1?
:ugh:

When I asked why should I know this figure, he replied that you might exceed the G limit if it get turbulent!
:=:D

v1r8 7th Jan 2014 22:18

(US airline)

Q: how long is the emergency escape rope?
A: long enough.

Q: I am a fuel molecule. Walk me thru the entire fuel system.
A: ###%%%%

Next please

nitpicker330 8th Jan 2014 00:44

Didn't know a Fuel Molecule could walk??:ugh:

crwkunt roll 8th Jan 2014 00:53

Or talk............???

Draw me a wing with the lift vector for clean and flaps full....... I drew a wing with a small size L for clean, and a wing with a big L for flaps out. Smiled, but not too happy was he..... To be sure to be sure!!!!!

The FUB 8th Jan 2014 00:55

Good reason to reduce the fuel by one molecule.

Yonosoy Marinero 8th Jan 2014 02:22

Wait... How many carbon atoms in that molecule? Alkane? If not, How many double/triple covalent bonds?

CXtreme 8th Jan 2014 02:26

During a Recurrent TRAINING debrief last month ( 747-8 )

Sim ins: There will be a 1 on your report.
Us ( 2 F/O's ): Why??
S.I. : I had to stop the sim to intervene.
Us: That was not intervening, that was stopping the sim to give us input on an electronic checklist, for a malfunction we cannot simulated and practice in normal cruise. Me: When I was an instructor, we called it training.
S.I.: No, if I give an input it mean you'r not up to standerd.

Us: But we had a good Proficiency Check with a very experienced and realistic Senior Training Captain, representing C.A.D., yesterday.
S.I.: But did he stop the sim? In CX thats a 1.
Us: Is the difference not CHECK and TRAIN ?
S.I: ( getting irate at these 2 F/O's ) We have a high standerd here at CX.
Us ... just looking at each other :confused:

Killaroo 8th Jan 2014 03:46


Q: I am a fuel molecule. Walk me thru the entire fuel system.
A. Shall we start with Dinosaurs? Or should we go back to the Big Bang?
Do you believe in God?

Bob Hawke 8th Jan 2014 03:51

That instructor is confusing himself with being a checker and is above his station in life. If I'm not mistaken the same chap at the end of an RT with time to spare offered any free exercise time to try anything. Well it all went pear shaped! Exercise requested wasn't as he liked and said non jeopardy play time ended up with a visit to training office and later to CP. NEVER miss an opportunity to say no, or nothing!! Sad isn't it. Best of the best of the best.

Now about those riverts?

BUGS/BEARINGS/BOXES 8th Jan 2014 06:55


With regards to the HOT AIR P/B, at what temperature will the Fault lt and associated ECAM caution come on?

When that set parameter is reached within the coding, it gives you the warning! Who gives a S**t what that exact value was????

The TC/STC clowns that ask these type of questions are doing it purely to stroke their own egos.

Oh, in case you were wondering:

A. When the duct overheat is detected - 88'C.

Nice to know we are dealing with Big Picture Stuff
I do hope they are issuing the AMM to pilots given that's the only location for such info these days, especially in Boeing machines.


During a Recurrent TRAINING debrief last month ( 747-8 )

Sim ins: There will be a 1 on your report.
Us ( 2 F/O's ): Why??
S.I. : I had to stop the sim to intervene.
Us: That was not intervening, that was stopping the sim to give us input on an electronic checklist, for a malfunction we cannot simulated and practice in normal cruise. Me: When I was an instructor, we called it training.
S.I.: No, if I give an input it mean you'r not up to standerd.

Us: But we had a good Proficiency Check with a very experienced and realistic Senior Training Captain, representing C.A.D., yesterday.
S.I.: But did he stop the sim? In CX thats a 1.
Us: Is the difference not CHECK and TRAIN ?
S.I: ( getting irate at these 2 F/O's ) We have a high standerd here at CX.
Us ... just looking at each other
Made me giggle. They exist in so many other spheres, and not just the 'Trainus Austronautus' types. :}

AQIS Boigu 8th Jan 2014 07:15

From a famous Airbus TCC... what's the deceleration rate in meters per second per second with auto brake medium...? :ugh::ugh::ugh:

in case anyone cares...3.0 m/s/s...

Bob Hawke 8th Jan 2014 08:44

That's Darnley acceptable.

Yeager 8th Jan 2014 08:56

This topic serves well, in illustrating the downright embarrassment, that the Cathay Pathetic "training" "system" is. These examples, so well illustrates how sick some of the so called "trainers" are in their little brains. In any normal airline these kinds of freaks would be put in place and returned to line duties only. But, not at CX.
One of the other main problems that the Cathay Pathetic OPS management fails to realise is that, while there are a lot of good trainers around in the company as well, the whole reputation of the the training department is going down the hole, because the managers fail in dealing with these idiots. Once again, management is not the same as leadership.
Perhaps the OPS management, in particular in the areas of training, should make a sincere attempt in measuring the success' of their departments. And, I'm not talking about measuring themselves, like buddy buddy's - crediting themselves - but by employee anonymous questionnaires and make the results public ( company internal ). Now, surely this wouldn't look pretty and would never happen - in CX.

nitpicker330 8th Jan 2014 09:51

Isn't there an x FE CC on the 330 that asks you to pick a system on lower screen and tell him about it????

I'd pick Doors right before inviting him to sod off back to J class...:D

arse 8th Jan 2014 10:38

Line Checker: "You get too many ATISs"
Checkee: "But aren't they part of a fixed price data contract?"
Line Checker: "No. They are separate to that contract and we are charged for each one"
Checkee: "I didn't know that. How much does an ATIS cost?"
Line Checker: "10 US cents"
Checkee: " .............................. " Stunned silence.
Line Checker: "And you probably do use too much data as well"
Checkee: "But that is at a pre-paided, fixed price"
Line Checker: "Yes, but if we use too much, when the contract comes up for renewal, the price will go up."
Checkee: " ............................. , ...... interesting, ... let me write that down"

I now carry a $10USD bill in my pocket on line checks, to be passed to the checker, ... for 100 credits.

boocs 8th Jan 2014 11:14

- On the overhead panel on this A (any Airbus) what do the small blue '+'
symbols mean that appear to be painted on

- Draw me an accurate diagram of the electrical system of this aircraft

- at what temperature do the hydraulics become flammable

- similar to Jizzmonkey's earlier point but different fleet.... when you get the red line on the printer paper, what length of paper (in feet or metres) remains before you run out

b.

treboryelk 8th Jan 2014 11:56

"Take that waste paper and throw it away!"
"Why? We can recycle it!"
"Have you ever considered how much fuel is wasted carrying all that paper around our network?".

What an Irritating ****!

Frogman1484 8th Jan 2014 13:01

Don't you hate it when a checker adds stuff to your "Eerass" report which were not mentioed or debriefed during the check ride.:mad:

Recently did a ride with the Hill man. Will never fly with that back stabbing pr1ck ever again.

From now on I will go sick for any of the controversial checkers at Cathay. Not worth the stress! :ok:

Yeager 8th Jan 2014 13:20

I had some burned out ex Silkair Aussie instructor prick, who obviously couldn't handle flying real airplanes, for my Airbus 330 conversion "training". Dumb and stupid as they come in CX, he was incapable of proper instructing, and when I told him that straight to his red face, one-on-one, he couldn't handle that either. It was the 31th of December 2007, I was scheduled for the last sim session with him/it the next morning (01JAN). Obviously I just called sick and had a great night out in town. You just have to teach these losers where the chair stands. :p:=


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