On 27 June 2006, Hainan Airlines purchased a 45 percent holdings of the airline .....CR Airways Limited officially changed its name to Hong Kong Airlines.....The airline made the biggest aircraft order in its young history on 21 June 2007, by ordering 51 narrow- and wide-body aircraft from European plane maker, Airbus, at an estimated value of US$5.6 billion. The airline's IATA code was changed from N8 to HX on 27 May 2007.

That's where I think the 'sea-change' happened. Nothing to do with Middle Management, 5.6Bn USD is a LOT of money, in anyones language. NASA just put a lander on Mars for half that.

The frontline people always save managements ass. Its universal.
The jury is still out. All I will say is I've worked in companies where Management were interminably at war with their pilots, and this is definitely not the case at HKA.

Who cares.. guys and girls there all got 330 ratings and fat pay checks...if the place is in trouble theyre all in high demand with other 330 carriers...great stepping stone and the more highly qualified bods will be sucked up elsewhere with shiny new 330 time.Wish I'd got in but was too late.

Losers there if the doom and gloom is true are the FOs, skippers must be rubbing hands with glee at the numerous jobs out there.

Been in the region for a long time, seems to be a control measure by CAD...thats all.they will still expand.

Any comments about the fact that the "pilot job application" no longer exists at HKA webpage?

From 1999 regarding WestJet.


FEBRUARY 24, 2000

WestJet's 1999 Earnings Increase By 143%

CALGARY, ALBERTA--WestJet Airlines today announced its financial
results for the year ended December 31, 1999, featuring a 143%
increase in net earnings, to $15.8 million in 1999 from $6.5
million in 1998. Earnings per share (fully diluted) also more
than doubled from 28 cents in 1998 to 58 cents in 1999. As of
December 31, 1999, the company had 27,303,999 shares outstanding
with total long-term debt of $29.3 million, shareholders' equity
of $94.5 million and $50.7 million in cash on hand.

Total revenues increased by more than 62% from $125.4 million in
1998 to $203.6 million in 1999. Yield, measured by revenue per
revenue passenger mile, increased 15% from 19.6 cents in 1998 to
22.5 cents in 1999. Higher jet fuel prices and the introduction
of the second phase of Nav Canada charges in 1999, contributed to
an increase in expenses of 54.1% over 1998 to $173.1 million.
Excluding the impact of the Nav Canada charges and the employee
profit share, which grew from $1.7 million to $6.6 million, unit
costs increased only 3% from 11.7 cents per available seat mile in
1998 to 12.1 cents in 1999. Earnings from operations increased by
132% to $30.5 million in 1999 compared with $13.1 million in the
previous year.

WestJet

HKCAD freezes Hong Kong Airlines' fleet expansion plans
 

The latest from Air Transport World yesterday:

"The Hong Kong Civil Aviation Dept. (CAD) has frozen the fleet expansion plans for Hainan Airlines subsidiary Hong Kong Airlines (HX) due to safety concerns.

According to CAD, the Hong Kong-based carrier would have to meet all safety requirements for operating a larger fleet as well as stricter conditions to HX’s air operator’s certificate (AOC) limiting the types of aircraft the carrier can fly.

This means HX cannot add any aircraft without prior approval from CAD.

“With a very rapid expansion of aircraft fleet in recent years, CAD considers that it is time for HX to catch up with its current fleet size by consolidating their existing operations,” CAD said.

HX operates a fleet of 21 aircraft, comprising seven Airbus A330-200s, one A320, three A330-200 freighters, eight Boeing 737-800s and two 737-300Fs.

The carrier said it has no plans to cancel any aircraft orders but instead would phase out its older aircraft.

HX in 2010 finalized an order for 25 Airbus aircraft, comprising 15 A350-900 and 10 A330-200s. The 15 -900s are scheduled to be delivered in 2018; the 10 -200s are expected to begin delivery this year (ATW Daily News, Oct. 14, 2010).

HX also placed a $3.8 billion order for 10 A380s, which are scheduled for delivery from 2015 (ATW Daily News, Jan. 10). However, the A380 order is in jeopardy as the Chinese government protests the European Union Emissions Trading Scheme tax (ATW Daily News, March 9)."

Licensing
 

For once it seems HKG CAD is doing its job.If we all operate like they do over the border and around some parts the rest of Asia there is no point being here.:ok:

Hong Kong Airlines: A bad fortnight for Hong Kong Airlines | The Economist

"FOR Hong Kong Airlines, August has turned out to be the cruellest month. Hong Kong's Civil Aviation Department has told the airline that it is not allowed to expand its 21-strong fleet until it has met relevant safety requirements. And more recently the carrier announced that its business-class-only service between London Gatwick and Hong Kong is to close in September, just six months after launch...."

Well, I imagine this is the end.

Finally.

A1015/12 NOTAMN
Q) VHHK/QMRXX/IV/NBO/AE/000/999/2010N11430E268
A) VHHH B) 1208170356 C) 1208170600 EST
E) RWY 07R SINGLE RUNWAY OPERATION DUE DISABLED ACFT ON RWY 07L.
TRAFFIC TO EXPECT SIGNIFICANT DELAY.

Ciao B*tches

AAIGUY

Latest incident clearly pilot error then! Care to enlighten us?

What Have They Done Now?
 

A full A330 evacuation on the runway, whilst they are currently on the CAD radar for safety concerns.

What have those HKA retards done now?

I can't wait to hear Algol's defence of this one. :ugh:

Spleener.

Doesn't matter if its mechanical (poor maintenance), pilot error (bad crew), or act of god. There has been enough 'face' by the CAD on the issue in the last weeks, that they will have to act.

WHAT HAPPENED?

I know some of you guys are bitter and twisted and would take great pleasure in seeing this circus finally shutdown, but I don't understand why you continue to make up bull**** stories that are completely false.

For the record, there was no evacuation on the runway, the crew elected to have the pax disembark in an orderly fashion to the waiting busses rather than have them sit on the aircraft for 2 hours while the wheels were changed.

well that might have ruined a good story with some truth!

very well handling done by both flight n ground crew:ok:

So... anyone cares to explain what happened? RTO? Airborn Emer? Blue Elefants?

Heard from the Tung Chung refueller that it may have been a botched x-wind landing thence relieving a wheel or two of its much needed nitrogen....?

Except the crosswind handling possibly???

Same.

From the same source that told me LGW was cancelled while ALGOL debated it.

Botched landing in heavy crosswind.. Blew the tires.

Well handled indeed.:D

It would be interesting to know the actual aeronautical experience of some of these clowns.If only the public knew,maybe they are doing us a favor,and salaries for experienced crews be more recognized.:E