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Old 7th Mar 2024, 13:02
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CessNah,

Best of luck back in your motherland.

personally I admire someone with the courage of conviction (the $$$/personal & family circumstances obviously allow) to make a change rather than still being here in 2 years bemoaning the job.

best wishes & safe travels.
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Old 7th Mar 2024, 19:44
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What changed within the last year?
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Old 8th Mar 2024, 15:14
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He took the rose coloured glasses off and realised what a sh!thole CX is. I’m honestly proud, it takes a lot to pick up and move your whole life across the world.
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Old 10th Mar 2024, 10:12
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Thanks for your kind words everyone, I appreciate it and I wish you all the best! Also huge kudos to Bekol and Sleepy Joe, I've contacted Swiftrelo and they responded immediately with a much better price than Pickfords and Santa Fe, they're coming in tomorrow to dispatch all my belongings back to the UK so I too can also depart HK much sooner than planned.


I like to leave things in positive light despite all of the flaws with CX, especially for those who are reading thinking about joining, and remember folks this is all just one man's opinion. Do I think CX is a long term career airline? Absolutely not. BUT, I still stand by the point it is a fantastic stepping stone for those who are still early on in their careers, perhaps a bit of an adventure seeker and want to experience something different before settling down in their home countries for a long term career position. The training you'll receive is top tier (though will that last forever with the guys and gals approaching retirement or resigning?), despite the toxic company culture once that flightdeck door is shut, you can have some banter and meet some of the nicest people in the industry and you do get to see some pretty cool places. Also to any fellow Brits reading and thinking of making the jump, when I was at an LCC over a year ago most of my colleagues went over to BA and were assigned to the A320 at LHR or their low cost division in Gatwick for a minimum of 5 years which I'm aware put many people off (myself included), but having bagged a B777 rating at CX and long haul recruitment back in limited numbers, I was lucky enough to be offered the B777 out of LHR purely by virtue of having a B777 rating. So thank you ever so much CX for providing my with that type rating and the training/experience required, it's definitely one of the best flight schools I've attended over the years
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Old 10th Mar 2024, 14:31
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Glad you got what you needed from
CX. Good luck! Did you have a bond?

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Old 10th Mar 2024, 15:38
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Originally Posted by CessNah
Thanks for your kind words everyone, I appreciate it and I wish you all the best! Also huge kudos to Bekol and Sleepy Joe, I've contacted Swiftrelo and they responded immediately with a much better price than Pickfords and Santa Fe, they're coming in tomorrow to dispatch all my belongings back to the UK so I too can also depart HK much sooner than planned.


I like to leave things in positive light despite all of the flaws with CX, especially for those who are reading thinking about joining, and remember folks this is all just one man's opinion. Do I think CX is a long term career airline? Absolutely not. BUT, I still stand by the point it is a fantastic stepping stone for those who are still early on in their careers, perhaps a bit of an adventure seeker and want to experience something different before settling down in their home countries for a long term career position. The training you'll receive is top tier (though will that last forever with the guys and gals approaching retirement or resigning?), despite the toxic company culture once that flightdeck door is shut, you can have some banter and meet some of the nicest people in the industry and you do get to see some pretty cool places. Also to any fellow Brits reading and thinking of making the jump, when I was at an LCC over a year ago most of my colleagues went over to BA and were assigned to the A320 at LHR or their low cost division in Gatwick for a minimum of 5 years which I'm aware put many people off (myself included), but having bagged a B777 rating at CX and long haul recruitment back in limited numbers, I was lucky enough to be offered the B777 out of LHR purely by virtue of having a B777 rating. So thank you ever so much CX for providing my with that type rating and the training/experience required, it's definitely one of the best flight schools I've attended over the years
good luck back in LHR, Speaking to an ex colleague, a lot of carriers specifically target CX crew due to their high standard in training and discipline in the flight deck
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Old 10th Mar 2024, 23:27
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Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo
good luck back in LHR, Speaking to an ex colleague, a lot of carriers specifically target CX crew due to their high standard in training and discipline in the flight deck
Probably not the newly checked out ones - what do you know after 14 sectors?!
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 02:43
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Good to see many western expats leaving CX. Its about time for a change. Bye Bye. No body will miss you westerner. hahahahaha
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 04:56
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Originally Posted by AQIS Boigu
Probably not the newly checked out ones - what do you know after 14 sectors?!
probably not much! But after two years a person would be skilled enough to succeed at other carriers
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 04:59
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Originally Posted by cygnet78
Good to see many western expats leaving CX. Its about time for a change. Bye Bye. No body will miss you westerner. hahahahaha
It’s great isn’t it! Have you ever met a local that can think outside the framework? Especially when there is no answer in the manuals to the problem they face? I have and it’s really not pretty!
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 07:39
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Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo
It’s great isn’t it! Have you ever met a local that can think outside the framework? Especially when there is no answer in the manuals to the problem they face? I have and it’s really not pretty!
For any local who had to read the above racist drivel, he is not talking for the majority. And shame on you babyjet, you are a disgrace.

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Old 11th Mar 2024, 08:43
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Originally Posted by Meursault
For any local who had to read the above racist drivel, he is not talking for the majority. And shame on you babyjet, you are a disgrace.
So speaking honestly is racist? Is highlighting an issue that is commonly widespread all throughout HK, racist?

I’ve experienced this in the last 15 years in Hong Kong that it’s become normal to me, but absolutely frustrating to anyone that is new to the country. And this extends from public servants to Medical professionals and everything in between. Why do people who can, leave Hong Kong for major medical treatment? So don’t call me racist when I’ve been through it.
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 10:22
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Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo
So speaking honestly is racist? Is highlighting an issue that is commonly widespread all throughout HK, racist?

I’ve experienced this in the last 15 years in Hong Kong that it’s become normal to me, but absolutely frustrating to anyone that is new to the country. And this extends from public servants to Medical professionals and everything in between. Why do people who can, leave Hong Kong for major medical treatment? So don’t call me racist when I’ve been through it.

This goes back to the root cause - poor local schooling - copy machine teaching method.
The western education teaches you to think, to acquire critical thinking skills, so you can be independent as you grow, unfortunately, that is not the case with local schools.
That's why you have people who make ridiculous policies, who have no flexibility, no adaptability, at the top, CL's administration, JL's administration etc...

Fyi, I am a local, born and bred here, so I completely understand your frustration.
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 11:20
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It's easy to conflate culture with race, but it's not the same. If you say something negative about a place it's not racist, baby baby. Would a Brit saying something about France be racist?? Keep race out of it, it's not nothing to do with skin colour. It's just a different place, for better or worse. Personally I love HK, but not for their lateral thinking. Still haven't found the perfect country, you?
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Old 11th Mar 2024, 11:42
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Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo
It’s great isn’t it! Have you ever met a local that can think outside the framework? Especially when there is no answer in the manuals to the problem they face? I have and it’s really not pretty!
And you’re an example of what thinking outside the framework looks like?

You were thrown a hook with the tiniest hint of bait on it and you took it.
Classy stuff. Real professional. Fills me full of confidence with whatever you identify yourself as.
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