Toxic
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 29
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From: Asia
Moved Beyond
I was a senior FO at CX during the pandemic and I can only say that leaving the CX sh%t show was the best decision I ever made.
Had I stayed I would still be miserable and would’ve taken the 10% pay hit they inflicted on the freighter crew, as well as watching pilots junior to me upgrading on other fleets, further raising my blood pressure. Nothing ever improves.
I do miss the wonderful people I used to fly with, and even HKG sometimes but I get to visit regularly with my new outfit and actually look forward to going to work now. Imagine that? I have a proper union negotiated contract and the managers actually want to help and everyone at the company has been pleasant to deal with so far. Even the hotels and catering are nicer. On second year pay I’m already earning more than I did as an FO2 at CX on PoS18 pay and my cost of living has halved.
I really detest CX for the way they treated us pilots during the pandemic, destroying careers and inflicting unnecessary misery on us, and now they will reap what they sow.
Good riddance.
Had I stayed I would still be miserable and would’ve taken the 10% pay hit they inflicted on the freighter crew, as well as watching pilots junior to me upgrading on other fleets, further raising my blood pressure. Nothing ever improves.
I do miss the wonderful people I used to fly with, and even HKG sometimes but I get to visit regularly with my new outfit and actually look forward to going to work now. Imagine that? I have a proper union negotiated contract and the managers actually want to help and everyone at the company has been pleasant to deal with so far. Even the hotels and catering are nicer. On second year pay I’m already earning more than I did as an FO2 at CX on PoS18 pay and my cost of living has halved.
I really detest CX for the way they treated us pilots during the pandemic, destroying careers and inflicting unnecessary misery on us, and now they will reap what they sow.
Good riddance.
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
From: Hong Kong
ENPs Score
The last survey had an ENPs score of -51.2 andddd the solution is to improve block hour pay but only after the summer rush. And maybe serve us with mainland chinese slaves with poor attitudes - I mean new flight attendants. These management folks still haven't learned anything it seems they are beyond delusional at this point. Lets aim for a -90 ENPs score for the next survey in August since it is beyond a joke at this point.
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 504
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From: one country, one system
Flight Ops is purely cost driven.
100% about money, nothing else.
The survey is a box ticking exercise, nobody cares about the results.
100% about money, nothing else.
The survey is a box ticking exercise, nobody cares about the results.
Last edited by Sam Ting Wong; 27th June 2023 at 10:45.
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 405
Likes: 3
From: The Cesspit
Toxic work environment at Cathay?
Hahaha. That’s very good.
Those 7 toxic symptoms listed at the start of the thread? That’s defined cx since the 1990’s, with the pilots continuously pushing back with Contract Compliance, Maximum Safety Strategy, Training Bans, Recruitment Bans, Strike motions, sick outs, golf days, scab lists etc.
What’s changed to end this toxic cycle? Not cx management. They’re the same as they’ve always been. It’s the pilots. They now harmoniously comply with every management directive without question or a hint of pushing back. It’s now the best work environment since the 1980’s.
Ably assisted by the HKAOA General Committee who no longer collect union dues which could be used to form a war chest, and have locked the union office and sacked all the staff reducing the ability of the members to organize. The HKAOA chairman is trying to fight back, hence the GC is removing him.
Throughout history when a country invades another country they systematically eliminate the leadership and strength of those that would oppose them leaving a weak, meek subservient workforce.
The strong have left, the weak remain. All is harmonious.
Hahaha. That’s very good.
Those 7 toxic symptoms listed at the start of the thread? That’s defined cx since the 1990’s, with the pilots continuously pushing back with Contract Compliance, Maximum Safety Strategy, Training Bans, Recruitment Bans, Strike motions, sick outs, golf days, scab lists etc.
What’s changed to end this toxic cycle? Not cx management. They’re the same as they’ve always been. It’s the pilots. They now harmoniously comply with every management directive without question or a hint of pushing back. It’s now the best work environment since the 1980’s.
Ably assisted by the HKAOA General Committee who no longer collect union dues which could be used to form a war chest, and have locked the union office and sacked all the staff reducing the ability of the members to organize. The HKAOA chairman is trying to fight back, hence the GC is removing him.
Throughout history when a country invades another country they systematically eliminate the leadership and strength of those that would oppose them leaving a weak, meek subservient workforce.
The strong have left, the weak remain. All is harmonious.
Last edited by Progress Wanchai; 30th June 2023 at 13:13.
