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If you Let them take money out of your pocket and do nothing about it, you're simply a chump. Professionalism has nothing to do with it. Look up the meaning of words in a dictionary and don't be delusional or worse, illiterate.
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Dumbfounded by the childish remarks and actions.
Years ago when a national airline was going under, salaries late, not paid, useless management (infinity times worse than CX management) theft, etc etc etc
Not 1 co-pilot or captain ever tried to screw the airline over by doing anything unprofessional. We loved flying, set an example to anyone and everyone. And what we went through was a hundred times worse than what CX and this new COS are.
Never once did we ever screw the airline over by deliberately doing acts that drag the airlines name down further, because that is pathetic.
Have some pride in what you do for heavens sake, or should everyone on this planet be an absolute tosser.
CX pilots used to be regarded as some of the most professional pilots out there, highly looked up to, but by reading these comments and what you "kids" are doing, it shows this airline is nothing more than another failed fly by night. In the long run you are all shooting yourself in the foot, cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you hate it so much, then why not leave because there are plenty of jobs going today.
Years ago when a national airline was going under, salaries late, not paid, useless management (infinity times worse than CX management) theft, etc etc etc
Not 1 co-pilot or captain ever tried to screw the airline over by doing anything unprofessional. We loved flying, set an example to anyone and everyone. And what we went through was a hundred times worse than what CX and this new COS are.
Never once did we ever screw the airline over by deliberately doing acts that drag the airlines name down further, because that is pathetic.
Have some pride in what you do for heavens sake, or should everyone on this planet be an absolute tosser.
CX pilots used to be regarded as some of the most professional pilots out there, highly looked up to, but by reading these comments and what you "kids" are doing, it shows this airline is nothing more than another failed fly by night. In the long run you are all shooting yourself in the foot, cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you hate it so much, then why not leave because there are plenty of jobs going today.
CX on the other hand does NOT seem to be in financial trouble. They maintained a full workforce in the head office, has not sold one of its stored airplanes and in fact is continuing to accept new aircraft at pace, re-growing as quickly as crew numbers allow. They are holding numerous PR campaigns and even feel good parties.
So the paycut that was forced on me was purely a corporate accountant’s wet dream to save on expenses.
Let’s face it, this giant corporation could care less if I dawdle around at 10kts. The cost is minuscule. But as someone pointed out, those extra minutes add up over the course of a year to the benefit of my family and me. If I have to choose saving a faceless corporation those few extra dollars instead of granting them to my family then you know which one I’ll choose. Given that each and every time that this professional turns up to work as one the the lowest paid wide body pilots in the world, the company is already thousands of dollars ahead.
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And the irony is we were at one time the highest paid wide body pilots in the world. No amount of slow taxiing is going to make up for that loss. I completely agree with the sentiment however.
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Highest paid pilots that had the highest usage of De-rated Take offs and De Rated climbs in the world. Making us the envy of other operators, saving 100's of thousands in fuel and engine maintenance and longevity alone. Meanwhile all the other carriers were doing Toga takeoffs narrowing the already very thin margin between profit and expenditure. You can see where this is all heading if management don't actually apply the simple solution. Turns out good Airmanship and professionalism are linked to pay and conditions.
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This is not only a pretty arrogant statement, but it's also ignorant and simplistic. So many individual factors at play, from family to passport or age, just to name a few. You either did not think at all before posting or you have no capacity to put yourself into others shoes.
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This is not only a pretty arrogant statement, but it's also ignorant and simplistic. So many individual factors at play, from family to passport or age, just to name a few. You either did not think at all before posting or you have no capacity to put yourself into others shoes.
But yeah, many factors at play, can't deny that.
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This is not only a pretty arrogant statement, but it's also ignorant and simplistic. So many individual factors at play, from family to passport or age, just to name a few. You either did not think at all before posting or you have no capacity to put yourself into others shoes.
Shooting the messenger and calling me arrogant is just stupid. You have absolutely no right to complain about your plight going forward if you stay working for CX. It may not seem like it, but I'm actually on your side....I just think you need a gentle virtual slap!!
You're welcome.
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all the local 7 year SOs must have no self respect then, cuz theyre definitely not happy being abused. or maybe theyre not considered pilots so your statement does not apply?
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NO. Grow a set and make a long/medium term decision that will benefit you and your family. Every single pilot in CX has the option to go to either Emirates, AUS, the US, NZ, UK or Europe. I left at 52, so STFU about age. Family? In 5 years, how will your education allowance and housing (sorry, HK allowance) be doing to support your actual costs as HK bounces back and experiences the next property boom? You'll go backwards, and have to move into a smaller apartment working for those thieving criminals, and you know it!
Shooting the messenger and calling me arrogant is just stupid. You have absolutely no right to complain about your plight going forward if you stay working for CX. It may not seem like it, but I'm actually on your side....I just think you need a gentle virtual slap!!
You're welcome.
Shooting the messenger and calling me arrogant is just stupid. You have absolutely no right to complain about your plight going forward if you stay working for CX. It may not seem like it, but I'm actually on your side....I just think you need a gentle virtual slap!!
You're welcome.
NO. Grow a set and make a long/medium term decision that will benefit you and your family. Every single pilot in CX has the option to go to either Emirates, AUS, the US, NZ, UK or Europe. I left at 52, so STFU about age. Family? In 5 years, how will your education allowance and housing (sorry, HK allowance) be doing to support your actual costs as HK bounces back and experiences the next property boom? You'll go backwards, and have to move into a smaller apartment working for those thieving criminals, and you know it!
Shooting the messenger and calling me arrogant is just stupid. You have absolutely no right to complain about your plight going forward if you stay working for CX. It may not seem like it, but I'm actually on your side....I just think you need a gentle virtual slap!!
You're welcome.
Shooting the messenger and calling me arrogant is just stupid. You have absolutely no right to complain about your plight going forward if you stay working for CX. It may not seem like it, but I'm actually on your side....I just think you need a gentle virtual slap!!
You're welcome.
Our 7 year SOs (btw it is not 7 years anymore thank god) can’t but anyone with 500hrs P2 can indeed leave - even our South Africans or local pilots who keep telling everyone “I got nowhere to go…”
It is a personal choice
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Bored, you are no messenger at all, everybody knows their options. Every single one of us. The problem is that you don't acknowledge individual differences. Just as an example, you assume living in a rental with kids in school. Postenzing above pointed out potential needs of family members, and I could give you a long list of other factors.We all have idiosyncratic obligations, limitations and preferences and people around us with again their obligations, limiations and preferences.
Now pull your head out of own butt and learn quickly how to consider other people's perspective, or you will not only disappoint random people online, but those you are close to.
You are welcome.
Now pull your head out of own butt and learn quickly how to consider other people's perspective, or you will not only disappoint random people online, but those you are close to.
You are welcome.
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Bored, you are no messenger at all, everybody knows their options. Every single one of us. The problem is that you don't acknowledge individual differences. Just as an example, you assume living in a rental with kids in school. Postenzing above pointed out potential needs of family members, and I could give you a long list of other factors.We all have idiosyncratic obligations, limitations and preferences and people around us with again their obligations, limiations and preferences.
Now pull your head out of own butt and learn quickly or you will disappoint not only random people online, but those you are close to.
You are welcome.
Now pull your head out of own butt and learn quickly or you will disappoint not only random people online, but those you are close to.
You are welcome.
What an extraordinary thread!
Have relations between crews and management sunk this low ?
Flight Safety??
In my day ( RAF ) we taxied and shutdown as quickly and safely as possible with the sole intention of getting to the bar ASAP
Have relations between crews and management sunk this low ?
Flight Safety??
In my day ( RAF ) we taxied and shutdown as quickly and safely as possible with the sole intention of getting to the bar ASAP
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It is still 7 years on the 777.
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What difference does a passport make? SO time yes that's problematic but if a Russian can easily go to Dubai for a job right now I don't think there are many bad passports that can't make it.
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Cant go without a visa sponser if you can't get a job because your logbook is filled with p2x 🥸. Point is "there are loads of other jobs" is just not true. Home legacy carriers (QF, BA, UA, etc) require the respective passport. EK requires 2000hrs P2 (NOT P2X). E3 needs aus pass. SQ and AJ haven't hired yet. For 7 year SOs it's usually this or the streets.