DEFO Interview
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Correct - yet to see a captain with a couple kids in high school returning to HKG
The only ones who are coming back are “empty nesters” happy to live in a shoebox reminiscing about the great expat life of HKG
Some even went back to the place they lived at as Second Officers - what does that tell you?!
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Correct - yet to see a captain with a couple kids in high school returning to HKG
The only ones who are coming back are “empty nesters” happy to live in a shoebox reminiscing about the great expat life of HKG
Some even went back to the place they lived at as Second Officers - what does that tell you?!
The only ones who are coming back are “empty nesters” happy to live in a shoebox reminiscing about the great expat life of HKG
Some even went back to the place they lived at as Second Officers - what does that tell you?!
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From: UK
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From: Angola
The overtime in certain fleets is just temporary, that is exactly what the company doesn’t want.
When they will get the numbers back to normal it will flatten out.
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From: Shamrock
And that was as a relatively junior Captain…..
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From: Canada
The biggest thing with CX is the "IF's" you might be able to make it work IF the flying increases as they try to get the flying schedule back to 2019 levels IF they don't change the min hours which determines how much $$$ you make IF they don't decide to change anything else which is ALL at their discretion as its policy not a CBA.
You are obviously an FO at with WS or AC, there have been lots of Canadian pilots at CX going in the exact opposite direction to what you are looking at, Captain and FO's (myself included). However apply go have a look at HK and make your own mind up, just remember at WS or AC you have a Union with a CBA written in stone that if gets messed with you file a grievance with an arbitrator in HK you have none of that its all at the company's whim, so what you sign up for you may lose a month later.
And if you think Canada is expensive go have a walk around a HK grocery store and look for the stuff your kids eat.
Good luck to you.
You are obviously an FO at with WS or AC, there have been lots of Canadian pilots at CX going in the exact opposite direction to what you are looking at, Captain and FO's (myself included). However apply go have a look at HK and make your own mind up, just remember at WS or AC you have a Union with a CBA written in stone that if gets messed with you file a grievance with an arbitrator in HK you have none of that its all at the company's whim, so what you sign up for you may lose a month later.
And if you think Canada is expensive go have a walk around a HK grocery store and look for the stuff your kids eat.
Good luck to you.
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From: Cern
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short flights long nights
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There are plenty of returning captains to cx who previously left for whatever reason .
What’s their motivation if its so bad, and the salary is so poor?
I hear the current cx overtime can push up the monthly salary of senior captains to over $250hk per month? Ok , you work for it , just saying it’s achievable.
Don't just base your life on the basic salary. Its a package, and overtime forms a large part (sometimes. !)
What’s their motivation if its so bad, and the salary is so poor?
I hear the current cx overtime can push up the monthly salary of senior captains to over $250hk per month? Ok , you work for it , just saying it’s achievable.
Don't just base your life on the basic salary. Its a package, and overtime forms a large part (sometimes. !)
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From: Hong Kong
Basic salary as a relatively junior captain was 130k on the old COS. Housing was anywhere from 45-100k depending on fixed/variable or mortgage/rental. So it's disingenuous to say you made more than 250k
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From: on the edge.
Interview is very straight forward. No tricks.
Simulator is where they get you. Only about 20% pass rate currently. They really focus on manual flying the 777 no matter what rating you have.
Medical is tougher than the standard government requirements. Anything that comes up they will ask you for reports or refer you to a specialist.
Simulator is where they get you. Only about 20% pass rate currently. They really focus on manual flying the 777 no matter what rating you have.
Medical is tougher than the standard government requirements. Anything that comes up they will ask you for reports or refer you to a specialist.
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From: Krug departure, Merlot transition
Yeah… nah, not really. A middle-seniority CN was on 150K, plus 15% Provident Fund, plus rental ceiling over 100k, not to mention way better schooling. Insurance was better as well, and included family. Definitely overall package was well over 250K.
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From: nfa
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From: Angola
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From: Hong Kong
My reply was to someone saying they made more than 250k on just basic salary and housing as a junior captain. I wasn't denying that senior captains or total compensation wasn't higher; however that wasn't the discussion.
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From: HK
Nobody was talking about the overall package. BB said ONLY his basic plus housing was more than 250k as a junior captain, which is obviously a lie.